Interesting E-mail From Crackerdog Regarding Bury Going To Clemson
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Nobody has ever expected Stans to be put next to Roy Williams or Rick Pitino. Not to mention those 2 coaches would absolutely positively never come to M-State.
the list of coaches apparently in contention for the Clemson job. Are we a much more attractive head coaching gig in basketball than Clemson? I'd say probably not. So, I'd guess that if we were searching for a coach, then the realistic potential candidates would probably not be much better than that list.
That makes me learn toward being happy with Stansbury. For now, anyway.
That makes me learn toward being happy with Stansbury. For now, anyway.
or some of the other coaches you've "treasured" in the past that don't even have a job right now?
After all, they won sweet 16s and that's all that matters right?
After all, they won sweet 16s and that's all that matters right?
Our coach, who has done nothing for MSU basketball in nearly 20 years except win more than he loses, win more championships,Western Division, SEC andtournament,than any other coach in any sport,and consistently beatour rival, interviewed for and apparently was offered a job at an upper tier school in a prestigious basketball conference, turned it down because of loyalty to Mississippi State,and you morons continue to take shots at him? "The star of a group of lower tier coaches..."? My ***.
I'm sick of hearing this crap. I'm as disappointed about this past season as anyone on the board. Considering the talent we had returning and the talent coming in, we should have challenged UK for the overall title and should have contended for a national championship. Yes, we need to get rid of some assistants. Yes, I'd like to see more and better offense. It bothers me that we have talented players transfer out. I'd like to see us in the Sweet Sixteen, Elite 8 or even another Final Four. I don't have the answers for why we didn't do better. And I'm sure Rick doesn't either. But the bottom line is that Stans wins more than he loses.He competes for and wins championships. He puts a competitive product on the floor. He beats Ole Miss regularly. He's been the most consistent coach we've had in any sport in years. Even more consistent and successful than Polk I.
Consider this: If we had a football coach with the record and results Rick Stansbury has, we'd worship him like the people up north worship Vaught and the Bammers worship Bryant.
Take your best shot Coach, et al. I stand by what I say.
I'm sick of hearing this crap. I'm as disappointed about this past season as anyone on the board. Considering the talent we had returning and the talent coming in, we should have challenged UK for the overall title and should have contended for a national championship. Yes, we need to get rid of some assistants. Yes, I'd like to see more and better offense. It bothers me that we have talented players transfer out. I'd like to see us in the Sweet Sixteen, Elite 8 or even another Final Four. I don't have the answers for why we didn't do better. And I'm sure Rick doesn't either. But the bottom line is that Stans wins more than he loses.He competes for and wins championships. He puts a competitive product on the floor. He beats Ole Miss regularly. He's been the most consistent coach we've had in any sport in years. Even more consistent and successful than Polk I.
Consider this: If we had a football coach with the record and results Rick Stansbury has, we'd worship him like the people up north worship Vaught and the Bammers worship Bryant.
Take your best shot Coach, et al. I stand by what I say.
bbqbully said:
this is true, but beating ole miss consistently, winning sec tourneys, winning more than losing is great.....but NCAA basketball is about making the big dance....and in stansbury's case, making it to the dance, fulfilling expectations (or not achieving) and maybe the occasional sweet 16 or elite 8.....
i would give up conference championships, accept a few more losses, and gladly give up a few ole miss wins to make it to the dance more, and even the sweet 16....
measuring this against football is apples to oranges....
understand that as a reasonable point of view. get ready for the twists and turns of how your logic makes no sense.
I've made that argument before.
And yes, basketball and the other sports ARE comparable, despite what some think. And it is much easier to be succesful in football where 80% of the league goes to the postseason where only 2-4 teams go in basketball.
And yes, basketball and the other sports ARE comparable, despite what some think. And it is much easier to be succesful in football where 80% of the league goes to the postseason where only 2-4 teams go in basketball.
Really?
That means this years basketball team is comparable to the 98 football team. Thats ludicrous to say that they are comparable.
Lets put this another way. Would you rather have our basketball achievements this year or Ole Miss' football achievements? Its really an easy answer.
That means this years basketball team is comparable to the 98 football team. Thats ludicrous to say that they are comparable.
Lets put this another way. Would you rather have our basketball achievements this year or Ole Miss' football achievements? Its really an easy answer.
Winning the West in football gets you so much more than winning it in basketball.
You could compare baseball and basketball a little more reasonably. Like going to the NCAA tournament is the same as getting to a regional.
You could compare baseball and basketball a little more reasonably. Like going to the NCAA tournament is the same as getting to a regional.
BigM, is that you?bbqbully said:
SEC football = best conference around. Which means its uber tough to win in.
SEC basketball= 2nd - 6th best conference around, which means itsnot easy, but hardly tough to win in.
Furthermore, basketball has almost half the season as non conference games where we play terrible teams most of the time. Whereas football has only 1/3 of theseason set up as non conference games, and even in those we playa couple of tough teams.
Apples and Oranges isnt accurate because they are so far apart they arent even both fruit. Its like apples and lamb.
Success, or lack therof,in the three major sports are comparable. That doesn't mean you can compare winning the west in football to winning the west in basketball in a particular year. But you can compare the relative success of the programs. They all play in the same conference. They play against the same teams. They allhave the deck stacked against them when in comes to budgets.
Which is why if Mullen wins 25% of his conferencegames and 4 patsy non-conference, he's in a bowl game and everyone is happy.
Which is why Stansbury is expected to win 65-75% of his conference games. And that STILL might not be enough to get in the NCAAT.
So, are they comparable win for win? game for game? NO, of course not. But they are comparableas far assuccess that is expected, albeit with a different measure for success. If Mullen ever, ever reaches the success Stans has had as far as reaching the postseason, he will be regarded as a hero.
Jackie took us to a New Years Bowl which to me is about equal to a Sweet Sixteen. Obviously Stans hasn't done that. But Stans has been much, much more consistent. And he's gone to the postseason with much more regularity.
