Interesting response by Turner in SDN -

kingfish72

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Turner gives specific names of who he talked to and what was said, MSU press release - no names - no quotes
I would be interested to hear from Marcus Grant and Talvis Franklin
If Turner is telling truth, Stans should stand up and just admit it and tell everyone that he wanted Turner gone to make room for the loyal Dee Bost

http://www.starkvilledail.../content/view/240892/92/
 

kingfish72

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Turner gives specific names of who he talked to and what was said, MSU press release - no names - no quotes
I would be interested to hear from Marcus Grant and Talvis Franklin
If Turner is telling truth, Stans should stand up and just admit it and tell everyone that he wanted Turner gone to make room for the loyal Dee Bost

http://www.starkvilledail.../content/view/240892/92/
 

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How the hell does a top college basketball program operate with such little communication?
 

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there is no way in hell that Phil Turner got a text from an assistant coach saying that a meeting was cancelled when it wasn't and that there was a second meeting that he never even knew about.
 

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So you are correct, while still allowing it to have possibly happened.

Kudos for managing to phrase it so that slim scenario could happen.
 

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step up and save stans' *** by paying turner's blackmail ransom (tuition sufficient to get the degree). I bet turner's memory about what went down would suddenly morph into stans' version once his tuition is comped.

The reality is stans got stuck in no man's land by that stupid piece of **** bost and turner was his designated chump. Hey stans, I hope bost's play and attitude make all this f'n middle school female ******** drama worth it. Can't wait to watch that punkass ***** mope around ignoring your alleged floor coaching ***.

And, stans, WTF is a "year-in" meeting? Seriously? You put that in a press release? "year-in?"
 

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So, yeah, he'sessentially anassistant. And there's no 17ing way he texted Turner saying a meeting had been cancelled when it wasn't. If that had really happened and I'm Turner, I'd have been in Stans office showing him the text when I found out the meeting wasn't cancelled.
 

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and by the way, Stans knew Phil wasn't coming back weeks ago and made plans without him. Phil is a good kid but ask any player he talked to and they will tell you he told them that too. Stans doesn't need me or anybody else to save his *** and going after Moutrie was the smart thing to do. Phil needs to get his degree, move on and let it go. Who knows, he might have been in a position to be a graduate assistant but it seems he blew that opportunity as well. Maybe Coach can apply, that would be interesting.
 

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that the people you are calling out are all members of the Bulldog Club. We may not give to the level you do because we were unable to steal Hitler's gold like you did in WWII, but we do support the University. And I am also a season ticket holder- I cant speak for the rest.

As to Turner, whatever happened- it has become a cluster-17 and has been handled poorly by Stansbury. It really appears as if there is very little communication within the basketball program. And thats a problem. No wonder people transfer out every season.

4 of the last 5 seasons we have had to win the SEC Tourney to make the NCAA's...if we dont make it in 2011, the number of people wanting a change will grow and get louder- you can count on that George Burns
 

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"The reality is stans got stuck in no man's land by that stupid piece of **** bost and turner was his designated chump. Hey stans, I hope bost's play and attitude make all this f'n middle school female ******** drama worth it. Can't wait to watch that punkass ***** mope around ignoring your alleged floor coaching ***."


one of your top 3 quotes all-time
 

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Shmuley said:
step up and save stans' *** by paying turner's blackmail ransom (tuition sufficient to get the degree). I bet turner's memory about what went down would suddenly morph into stans' version once his tuition is comped.

The reality is stans got stuck in no man's land by that stupid piece of **** bost and turner was his designated chump. Hey stans, I hope bost's play and attitude make all this f'n middle school female ******** drama worth it. Can't wait to watch that punkass ***** mope around ignoring your alleged floor coaching ***.

And, stans, WTF is a "year-in" meeting? Seriously? You put that in a press release? "year-in?"
or, it could be that the SDN 17-d up the quote. Check out Veazey's version: </a><a title="" href="http://blogs.clarionledger.com/msu/2010/06/26/stansbury-speaks-says-turner-forced-us-to-make-other-plans/">CL Blog

I know, I know: this doesn't allow you to make **** up about our basketball coach out of whole cloth and spew it out on a message board like you know what you're talking about.

Sorry to burst your bubble.
 

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got a big laugh out of it too and then changed it so as to not make Stansbury look like a dumbass? It's hard to give anybody the benefit of the doubt that butchers the English language like Stansbury...the man did say Freshmens afterall
 

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Coach34 said:
got a big laugh out of it too and then changed it so as to not make Stansbury look like a dumbass? It's hard to give anybody the benefit of the doubt that butchers the English language like Stansbury...the man did say Freshmens afterall
Other gems from the SDN article:

“My dad got the letter and the coaching staff didn’t even talk to me
once about this before that letter,” Turner said in a phone interview
late Friday evening. <span style="font-weight: bold;">“I’m not even on the team anyone without any
previous notice whatsoever.”</span>
Turner told the Starkville Daily News Friday night he was told his
meeting with Stansbury cancelled via a text message from MSU director of
basketball operations Talvis Franklin ...
Turner averaged 8.5 points, 5.5 rebounds per game during 2008-09 season
that culminated in the Bulldogs winning the Southeastern Conference
Tournament <span style="font-weight: bold;">and earn an </span>NCAA Tournament berth.
So two misspelled words and a word left out in an article that also contains horrible sentence structure. I'm willing to give Stans a pass on this one. I'm almost certain the SDN misspelled the word -- I doubt Stansbury writes his own press releases, after all.

I'm also not surprised that you picked the scenario that makes him look as bad as possible either.
 

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And I am also a season ticket holder- I cant speak for the rest.
You know that D@A is. Since the Williams days. How about that old man? How's that for supporting the program? Season tickets every year of the Stands era.
 

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I think Templeton was a donor one year out of his whole time at MSU. I commend anybody who supports MSU monetarily and I have been a Superdog or Silverdog member since the late 60's but does that give me a right to take every scenario regarding the most successful coach we have on campus and belittle him almost every day? I think not, and I think the majority of folks who post here get tired of the same ole crap day in and day out from Coach and his cronies. Coachthinks he is a heck of a coach, I am still waiting for the list of SEC players he developed and turned into stars. Coaching in high school, academy leagues, or selling condoms is a far cry from winning in the SEC and last I checked, our current coach has won more than anybody in the history of MSU and yet he is belittled as is his wife and family by the same group on this board. Coach always talks about "manning up". Why doesn't he man up and go see Stansbury and face him like a man and get some answers for decisions? I doubt that will ever happen because he can hide behind the keyboards and stir the pot every day he draws a breath. To me, that is a sad little man! And by the way, I never said anything about any of you not buying season tickets. I simply said I'd put up as much as you guys do for Turner. I buy them in the Big 3 sports but that is because I like to see for myself what is happening and not read about it on a message board. To each his own!
 

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1. Go to www.google.com, and then look up the word paragraph. See if you can figure out what it means

2. The majority of people here are <span style="text-decoration:underline">not</span> tired of the discussions on Stansbury. This is a sports message board. It was created for discussion on Miss State sports. People want to discuss what the hell is going on with our basketball program and try to figure out where the program is heading. Also, by the total number of threads and page views on this site per day, one can certainly say the majority of people are just fine with what is being discussed.

Now then, the people that are tired of this are the Stands Sheep that blindly follow him and thinks he does no wrong- like yourself. You guys are tired of having to defend his dumb decisions to others. And now many of you are starting to finally wonder if we have been right all along and you guys are late to the party. Well, you are.

3. You asked me how many SEC players I have coached and I told you. I even included the number of NFL players. I am not going to name names on the message board because there are some crazy people out there- especially one offering people hundreds of dollars for my name. If you would like a private list, I'll send that. But I hesitate to send you a pm because I dont think you even know what one is.

4. I'm glad you have been a Silverdog member since the 40's. Thats great.

5. Go to bed, you need the rest for that early morning Mall walk in the morning
 

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and secondly, I've never seen any list of SEC calibre payers you've coached or NFL players. Why not just print them again so we'll all know because you haven't posted it lately. Thirdly, I never said anything about the 40's but if that makes you happy to use your usual downgrading of folks who expose you, so be it. And finally, if you are so full of yourself that you think the majority of this board agrees with you, then you need a little self-examination because most folks figured you out a long time ago, a self-righteous jerk who has never been wrong, and as far as threads on basketball, you either create chaos or find a way to spin whatever chaos you can daily. Most of us have a life and have other things to do. Enjoy your computer, I'm sure it is your only friend.
 

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I think you owe it to me and the rest of the board so we can see how much you developed players.
 

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Now, what makes you an expert in basketball just because you coached football and baseball? Hell, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last week, so what? When you coach a Division 1A athlete in basketball or a team in the SEC, then we can critique you and you should pray there is nobody as obsessed as you are with the best coach on the MSU campus.
 

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I dont have to be a fireman to put out a fire in a pile of leaves, nor do I have to be a chef to grill a steak....There's alot of **** going wrong with our basketball program- and you dont have to be John Wooden to see it.

Now get back to shuffleboard or napping...or whatever it is you do this time of day
 

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to try to claim some higher level of credibility, it would make sense to expect at least one of them to be, you know, an actual BASKETBALL player.
 

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George Burns asked me how many I had coached- and his question wasnt sport-specific. I answered him.

I have a higher level of credibility because I'm right most of the time- not because of who I coached.

Since joining the Board, I have maintained that Stansbury is not a very good floor coach- and will never make a Sweet 16. Almost 7 years later, those two principles are more evident than ever. And since LR graduated, the basketball team has had to win the SEC Tourney 4 of the last 5 years to make the NCAA's- thats desperation.

The basketball program is a constant soap opera and people are getting a little put out with that.
 

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to try to claim some higher level of credibility, it would make sense to expect at least one of them to be, you know, an actual BASKETBALL player.

This ^^^^^^^

I actually agree with him alot when it comes to baseball and football......when he's not fawning over LSU. I really think the whole Stansbury hate is personal. He's way too obsessed with him. I'm not sure if Stans laughed at him about one of his players when he was coaching or if Stans is actually Coach34's baby's daddy, but it's something.

Also, Coach, we don't get on because of your posts, it's in spite of your posts concerning basketball. You wouldn't be such a douche if you stfu about Stans.
 

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<span style="font-weight: bold;">I have a higher level of credibility because I'm right most of the time-
not because of who I coached.
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</span></span>edit b/c i can't spell.<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">
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Dawgbreeze said:
Now, what makes you an expert in basketball just because you coached football and baseball? Hell, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last week, so what? When you coach a Division 1A athlete in basketball or a team in the SEC, then we can critique you and you should pray there is nobody as obsessed as you are with the best coach on the MSU campus.

Why does one have to be a D1 basketball coach to see the areas where we struggle?
And on the other side of that coin- WHY DOES ONE HAVE TO BE A D1 BASKETBALL COACH TO SEE THE AREAS WHERE WE EXCEL?

After all, if you have to be a D1 coach to know where we suck, it stands to reason you have to be one to know anything at all about whats happening on the court. So to know where we excel, you would have to have been a D1 coach or athlete.

Brilliant.
 

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I also will then clarify that we were discussing basketball which is coach's obsession. I also would like to know how many times he has pointed out anything about Stansbury's teams where they excelled.I would wager we could count on one hand how many times he has given him credit for anything. If we win the SEC tourney, it was simply luck and getting an NCAA invite doesn't count if it happens that way. I don't think coach or his clones have ever seen me say much about what he thinks about baseball or football, but he is not a college basketball coach nor any kind of expert. Other SEC coaches have stated publicly that Stans is a good coach but his tirades continue. The guy is obsessed and I am not the only one who tires of it but heck, dawgstudent must love his tirades because he continues to let him babble almost every day of the year concerning our basketball program and our coach. I suggested several months ago that it might be good for him to just take a break off Stansbury and get some rest, I now know he can't do it and that is OCD at its finest. Anybody who thinks this crap will stop if we get to the Sweet Sixteen is as delusional as he is. And by the way coach, since you referred me to the dictionary to look up a word, Isuggest you look up obsession and delusional and get back to us!
 

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Dawgbreeze said:
I also will then clarify that we were discussing basketball which is coach's obsession. I also would like to know how many times he has pointed out anything about Stansbury's teams where they excelled.I would wager we could count on one hand how many times he has given him credit for anything. If we win the SEC tourney, it was simply luck and getting an NCAA invite doesn't count if it happens that way. I don't think coach or his clones have ever seen me say much about what he thinks about baseball or football, but he is not a college basketball coach nor any kind of expert. Other SEC coaches have stated publicly that Stans is a good coach but his tirades continue. The guy is obsessed and I am not the only one who tires of it but heck, dawgstudent must love his tirades because he continues to let him babble almost every day of the year concerning our basketball program and our coach. I suggested several months ago that it might be good for him to just take a break off Stansbury and get some rest, I now know he can't do it and that is OCD at its finest. Anybody who thinks this crap will stop if we get to the Sweet Sixteen is as delusional as he is. And by the way coach, since you referred me to the dictionary to look up a word, Isuggest you look up obsession and delusional and get back to us!
At no point in time did you actually answer or even acknoledge my 2 questions. You managed to reply to my post, yet didnt address any of it. Impressive.

I like how you point out that other SEC coaches say he is a good coach. As if they would ever say in public that he is a bad coach??? Seriously, that is the weakest point you have made in months...and thats saying something. Like Kennedy or Grant or whomever would actually say, "Stans is a terrible coach. He cant adjust in game and makes horrible substitutions."

What a weak point.
 

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I'm still trying to figure out how you <span style="font-style: italic;">think</span> you have more credibility b/c you are "right"

I'd guess 80% of the coaches in America haven't made the Sweet 16 the past 7 years, it's not like that was a genius prediction. Take out the big name schools like the Dukes, UNC's, Kansas's, UCLA's, etc... and see what % of coaches have made it that far. The percentages are definitely in your favor.

That'd be like me saying I bet Maryland, NC State, or Baylor don't make a BCS bowl the next 7 years.... it's not really going out on a limb
 

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All teams struggle with different parts of their game. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it or even 2nd guess, but Coach holds himself out to be a basketball expert which he clearly isn't and hasn't ever developed a big time basketball player. It is easy to also see what teams do well so what is your point? Are you trying to defend your hero coach 34 and he himself has stated numerous times he is very seldom wrong about anything. Therein lies the problem and if you are so naive that you don't think our coaches don't know their strengths or weaknesses, then I feel for you. I absolutely believe folks like you and Coach34 get your jollies debating the same ole **** every day. We get it, we know you want another coach, some of us just happen to believe we have a good one, maybe not the best in the nation but far better than most and a hell of a lot better than any of the experts on this board. I heard for years how great Pelphrey, Gottfried, Brady, and all the other so-called great coaches are and yet most wouldn't hold Stans jock. Finally, as far as other coaches respecting our coach, I talked to Billy Donovan and also Gottfried at last years SEC tourney at length at breakfast and both along with Joe Dean stated how good a job Stans has done. I respect them a hell of a lot more than you or your buddies.
 

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whatever said:
I'm still trying to figure out how you <span style="font-style: italic;">think</span> you have more credibility b/c you are "right"

I'd guess 80% of the coaches in America haven't made the Sweet 16 the past 7 years, it's not like that was a genius prediction. Take out the big name schools like the Dukes, UNC's, Kansas's, UCLA's, etc... and see what % of coaches have made it that far. The percentages are definitely in your favor.

That'd be like me saying I bet Maryland, NC State, or Baylor don't make a BCS bowl the next 7 years.... it's not really going out on a limb

as to where we were in basketball back in 2003-2004...the wool around this place was thicker than a sheep ranch in Austrailia...

Also, lets remember our discussion about BCS conferences getting 50% of more of the bids...you just cant compare State to those other 270 piss ant teams...and you know like I do- more than 20% of the BCS teams have made the Sweet 16 since Stansbury became coach...Hell, 75% of the SEC has made the Sweet 16 since Stansbury became coach.

I'm guessing at least 2/3 of the BCS teams have made the Sweet 16 during Stansbury's tenure...so predicting he wouldnt make it actually has the odds against it
 

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Buddy, drop the me thinking Coach is a hero crap. Seriously, its old and totally unfounded. If you actually read what i post beyond basketball, and even at times about basketball, it is rarely agreeing with him.
Really, lets move on from that baseless insult.

I DONT WANT ANOTHER COACH. I WANT STANSBURY TO IMPROVE.
 

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You think 2/3 of BCS schools have made the Sweet 16 the last 10-12 years? I'd venture to guess that's not even close.

Even if it were remotely close, that doesn't mean ALL of those programs have done close to what we have. Auburn has made two Sweet 16's since Stans started, but we've still been a vastly better basketball program than they have overall, and it's not even close.

Only you would try and make Auburn look like a better program than us b/c of 2 good postseason runs.