Is it time to try someone new at qb?

oldjar07

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Lee has no awareness. He throws into coverage way too much. He doesn't see the underneath routes. He overthrows receivers. He doesn't move around in the pocket at all. He makes terrible decisions under pressure. He is accurate at times, but other than that he's not a very good quarterback.
 
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My two cents. With all the hype, Lee is feeling a lot of pressure to show results and as a result he is making bad decisions and trying to force it.

Look at Iowa's QB Stanley. Before this year he had hardly any playing time at all. Yet he has thrown 10 td's to just 1 int. Much of that is coached. Numbers aren't always great, but Iowa QB's just don't throw a lot of game killing int's generally speaking. They haven't always had great protection either. It is coached. Iowa also has a strong QB coach in O'Keefe now.
 

ssmill777

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If Lee struggles next week against Rutgers, even if the oline is playing crappy, you gotta try POB or Gebbia.
I think the word is out there on tapes of the first 3 games: pressure NU's QB and he will make mistakes and take sacks due to a very poor OL (and a poor OL coach). Without Bryant, we are basically one-dimensional and very simple to defend. If you notice, our point production is steadily dropping now: 42, 35, 17. You won't beat many teams scoring 17 on offense while giving away 14 on pick 6's.
 

daddy mack

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We have seen seven interceptions in two games against defenses that are not very good. Don't give me how good Oregon is. They were the second to worst defense in all of college football last year. Should POB at least get a few series in the first half against Rutgers to see how it goes?
Who Tom A wide receiver? With that **** line play I'm for not Getting people killed. Fix the line mess 5 million for Wisconsins line coach.
 

jflores

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Mike Riley loves a kid with a big arm and thinks he can turn him into an accurate passer. Lee had 23 TD's and 21 INT's at Tulane, and was a 53.5% passer. Through 3 games at NU Lee is a 52.5% passer with a 5 to 7 TD to INT ratio.

I think Mike Leach said it best, everyone takes the kid with the big arm and thinks they will be the whisperer who makes the kid suddenly accurate. Colleges grab the kid with the big arm, NFL grabs the kid with the big arm and yet QB play is pretty bad at both levels. This is what Riley is trying to do, Lee throws a beautiful ball, he has a cannon for an arm, but he just isn't accurate and makes poor decisions. You can coach and get a kid to look good throwing in shorts, but when you add a pass rush and a OL that struggles with pass pro you get what the kid is, a kid who makes throws he shouldn't and misses throws he should hit.

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a...hink-they-can-make-a-QB-accurate-but-you-cant

Funnily enough, everyone's favorite coaching candidate, John Gruden, also subscribes to the "I can make this work" theory.

In response to the original post by Tom, I think you have to give POB a look, you never know, could be the miracle you need. I wouldn't expect much though with the state of line play.
 

Mack In Motion

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I wouldn't expect much to change at QB.

This is year 3 and we're going backwards at 1-2.

I don't think Riley has any more latitude to take further lumps breaking in a new QB after recycling a good portion of the coaching staff. He's pretty much tethered to Lee's success / failure at this point; it's Lee's offense.

Eichorst is tied to Riley righting the ship. Riley is tied to Lee living up to his promise. Bad spot to be in.
 
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We have seen seven interceptions in two games against defenses that are not very good. Don't give me how good Oregon is. They were the second to worst defense in all of college football last year. Should POB at least get a few series in the first half against Rutgers to see how it goes?

Yes, Hell Yes! should take over as starter IMO. How much worse could he possibly be? He could have a few designed run plays, zone read.
 
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Mike Riley loves a kid with a big arm and thinks he can turn him into an accurate passer. Lee had 23 TD's and 21 INT's at Tulane, and was a 53.5% passer. Through 3 games at NU Lee is a 52.5% passer with a 5 to 7 TD to INT ratio.

I think Mike Leach said it best, everyone takes the kid with the big arm and thinks they will be the whisperer who makes the kid suddenly accurate. Colleges grab the kid with the big arm, NFL grabs the kid with the big arm and yet QB play is pretty bad at both levels. This is what Riley is trying to do, Lee throws a beautiful ball, he has a cannon for an arm, but he just isn't accurate and makes poor decisions. You can coach and get a kid to look good throwing in shorts, but when you add a pass rush and a OL that struggles with pass pro you get what the kid is, a kid who makes throws he shouldn't and misses throws he should hit.

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a...hink-they-can-make-a-QB-accurate-but-you-cant

I would love to have Leach at Nebraska. Man he's good. If only he was at a place that could afford top D coaches.