Is it Urban Meyer? I hope so.

[donaldfair71]

Our win over them in ‘05 was great, no doubt. As was ‘94 and ‘08. Yes, Joe was able to beat them a bit more.

But let’s not forget other Paterno-era games:
L 24-6
L 38-7
L 28-9
L 45-6
L 28-6
L 37-17
L 24-7
L 38-14

And it’s a fact that OSU was better in the Franklin era than in the Paterno era.
OSU Final AP rank in Franklin’s 11 years:
Top 10: 11/11
Top 5: 8/11

OSU final AP rank in Paterno’s 18 years (‘93-‘10):
Top 10: 11/18
Top 5: 9/18

100% truth in this.

I can recall those games, noncompetitive. I will say this, JF kept them closer a lot more often than Joe.

Don't know how old you are, but we used to have absolute knock down drag outs on the PennLive boards (this was really pre Rivals). The topic was always over Joe's fitness as a coach, and these began in like 2000. Still can't believe it was 11(!) years later that he finally left.

At the same time, while Ohio State is better now, it wasn't better every year. Remember, Ohio State did win a title in 2002, was tremendous in 03-2005, played for them in 06 and 07.

But all that said, Ohio State has been unbeaten once in 23 years, and ironically they couldn't play for a title. They are not unbeatable death stars, and just as one would expect that Auburn beats Alabama once every few years (I can remember Auburn having a several years long win streak in that series), and UCLA beat USC once every few years, Penn State should beat Ohio State once every few years minimum.

Those were the standards with Joe and anyone else, and Joe certainly had his job being called for him from 2000-04.

 

[Moogy]

Like I said, I’ll support him if he gets the job. I supported Franklin up until the UCLA game.

Yes, but Franklin was good, so you would have had to have been certifiably insane to not support him. Supporting a woefully mediocre replacement (like Rhule would be) takes a lot more faith and "see no evil" fandom.

 

[Connorpozlee]

Yes, but Franklin was good, so you would have had to have been certifiably insane to not support him. Supporting a woefully mediocre replacement (like Rhule would be) takes a lot more faith and "see no evil" fandom.

Franklin was horrible this year. Inexcusably bad, so he deserved to be fired and not be supported. I will support Rhule if he comes in until he shows me he doesn’t deserve it. You choose your own path though. I’m not going to tell you how to be a fan.

 

[donaldfair71]

Rhule's career record is 65-58.

This is his 10th year coaching (coaching college, that is ... he was a complete disaster in the pros), and he has 6 seasons above .500 (including this one) ... and 2 of those were 7-6. He was 1-5 against top-25 ranked squads with Temple (the 1 win coming against an East Carolina squad that wasn't close to being ranked thereafter). He was 0-8 against top-25 ranked squads with Baylor, including 0-3 in his "good" season that got him the job with the Panthers. He's 0-7 against top-25 ranked squads with Nebraska. So, he's 1-20 against teams ranked in the top 25 when he played them, with his lone win coming against some pretender G5 squad that ended up with 5 losses on the season, and was ranked 21 when they played them.

Folks have tried to make him seem better by claiming he turned programs around, but he really just brought them back to close to where they were very recently in 2 of those 3 stops, and his coaching years actually represented a nadir (before the rebound) for those squads.

He’d be an awful hire.
I’d support him until he started losing a lot, but he’d be an awful hire.

 

[Itraindogs]

Yes, but Franklin was good, so you would have had to have been certifiably insane to not support him. Supporting a woefully mediocre replacement (like Rhule would be) takes a lot more faith and "see no evil" fandom.

Rhule would have to be certifiable bonkers to take the PSU job. The expectations coupled with the decade long frustration of not winning the "big games" will make his life miserable sooner than later.

 

[PSUwolf]

Meyer is not going to be the next coach of Penn State. Like Saban, he loathes NIL and has spoken out against it as ruining the game. He has been a long-time friend of McMormick. That he was seen having lunch with him is meaningless in terms of anything having to do with the PSU opening.

Agree somewhat and if it is Meyer, you just have to wonder how long it takes him to self-destruct. Just don't think Saban or Meyer is cut out for today's new CF

 

[PaForest75]

Franklin was horrible this year. Inexcusably bad, so he deserved to be fired and not be supported. I will support Rhule if he comes in until he shows me he doesn’t deserve it. You choose your own path though. I’m not going to tell you how to be a fan.

This is why we're here now. Anyone chosen will likely at least be able to win a conference game. Franklin was not winning anymore games at all until next year's scrimmages. The entire Penn State team, fans, stadium, everything collapsed on Franklin in an instant. Penn State had to have someone else, anyone else, immediately.

 

[BobPSU92]

Noble sentiment, but even 100,000 emails aren't outweighing the voices of the big donors that have ponied up the money for it.

“Pat, here’s a fat pile of cash money. Go make us mediocre.”

 

[Arivacalion]

Looks like the fan base hates everyone who has been mentioned for the job. Bring back James!

 

[LMTLION]

Looks like the fan base hates everyone who has been mentioned for the job. Bring back James!

What about Chad Powers? He would be a good coach.

 

[84lion]

What about Chad Powers? He would be a good coach.

Heck, why not Austin Powers?

 

[JustSomeRandomGuy]

Ohio State announced today that Urban Meyer will serve as the pregame Victory Bell ringer for Saturday’s game against Penn State. Meyer expressed gratitude for the honor. It's part of the pregame activities at The Shoe.

 

[KingLando]

Hartline back on the internet for PSU.
Big jump in pay.

Hartline may not be their first option but they've definitely had discussions. Fully support that move if they can't land Elko.

 

[84lion]

Ohio State announced today that Urban Meyer will serve as the pregame Victory Bell ringer for Saturday’s game against Penn State. Meyer expressed gratitude for the honor. It's part of the pregame activities at The Shoe.

"I thank Ohio State for giving me this honor...and look forward to seeing many of you at Beaver Stadium in 2028 when I'm coaching Penn State...thank you!"

 

[JVP_Yahweh]

Rhule has denied but you know there have been multiple conversations with his people and PSU

 

[PSUwolf]

Rhule has denied but you know there have been multiple conversations with his people and PSU

Many don't want to hear it, but I think Rhule's our next HC

 

[Nits1989]

Many don't want to hear it, but I think Rhule's our next HC

Source?

 

[PSUwolf]

Source?

Same source as all of the other speculation on this board

 

[Gobert21]

Only if he brings Hartline along to take over two years from now.

 

[Fred8811]

Source?

Rhule will be a perfect fit.
The pretty boys would run after 1 year.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Many don't want to hear it, but I think Rhule's our next HC

Nope. A very reliable source has spoken…

 

[donaldfair71]

Nope. A very reliable source has spoken…

Rhule is getting an extension it seems.

 

[Rudy4526]

Rhule is getting an extension it seems.

Guess he is off the board then. Guess we keep searching

 

[84lion]

Many don't want to hear it, but I think Rhule's our next HC

 

[84lion]

Rhule is getting an extension it seems.

I hope the deal is done before Nebraska loses to USC

 

[KingLando]

Guess he is off the board then. Guess we keep searching

We didn't want him

 

[donaldfair71]

I hope the deal is done before Nebraska loses to USC

The tragedy in all of this is Nebraska not noticing it can do a lot better than Rhule as well.

 

[bdgan]

I would have no problem with Matt Rhule. I love the guy and he is Penn State family. He will win this game over USC and secure the job.

Regardless of that you think of Ruhle I can't imagine that he would walk out on his team until after the season. Nebraska is currently 6-2 with games remaining vs USC, UCLA, PSU, & IA. Assume they split those games and finish 8-4. That would get them to a decent bowl.

If a coach doesn't arrive until mid January a lot of existing players and recruits will have already entered the portal. At that point the rebuild could be like coming out of the sanctions. I'd much prefer somebody who we could have in place several weeks before the portal opens on January 2nd. That would give him time to name his assistants and reassure existing players and recruits. Then hit the portal hard starting January 2nd.

 

[sr108]

Craig Carton thinks Urban Meyer's meeting with Pennsylvania senator is about Penn State job

Craig Carton has a theory about why Urban Meyer had breakfast with Pennsylvania Senator Dave McCormick after James Franklin's firing.

awfulannouncing.com

Let's go State!

What does Dave McCormick have to say about anything?

 

[bdgan]

He didn’t win at other stops. Against any squad with a pulse. Franklin couldn’t beat Top 5. Rhule can’t beat Top 25.

Ruhle beat #17 Cincy this year and barely lost to #21 Michigan. He plays #23 USC this week.

 

[sr108]

Urban is not coming back to coaching. He has zero experience with NIL or the transfer portal and I do not believe he has the personality to coach players in this era of college football. Only way this works is if Kraft hires a GM, like Stanford did with Luck, and make him responsible for all recruiting, compensation and so on.

I have no doubts about Urban’s knowledge or ability to coach in the era, but with that said, he’s not coming to Penn State.

 

[sr108]

Bear
Lombardi
Landry
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Chuck Knoll

 

[Auxgym]

You heard wrong. No way and now how is Meyer going to be the next HC at PSU.

Clearly there aren’t enough Meat Market Nightlife Spots in the Happy Valley Metro area for Urban to work his Magic Wand.

 

[PSUwolf]

Clearly there aren’t enough Meat Market Nightlife Spots in the Happy Valley Metro area for Urban to work his Magic Wand.

Some loose, young coeds could seal the deal with Meyer

 

[LMTLION]

Ruhle beat #17 Cincy this year and barely lost to #21 Michigan. He plays #23 USC this week.

He is in year three and the team is not very good at all. They also have one of the worst OL‘s in the Conference and not developing their 5 star QB. He is a highly overrated coach and I would never want him here at PSU. We could do better.

 

[BobPSU92]

Clearly there aren’t enough Meat Market Nightlife Spots in the Happy Valley Metro area for Urban to work his Magic Wand.

Has he been to Chumley’s?

 

[Moogy]

Ruhle beat #17 Cincy this year and barely lost to #21 Michigan. He plays #23 USC this week.

I am going off their ranking at the time they played them, as I'm not scouring 10 years of end of year rankings, and then comparing to different teams' schedules to compile this data. Cincy was not ranked when Nebby played them, and could be unranked by the end of the year, as well. "Barely lost" is still "lost." Franklin "barely lost" to a poop ton of top 5/10 ranked teams through the years. That was a HUGE negative for him, in the eyes of many. In fact, when PSU "barely lost" to top 6 Oregon earlier this year, a sizable portion of our "fan" base acted like Franklin had just shot a puppy in front of a 5-year-old girl, after stealing her candy.

 

[84lion]

The tragedy in all of this is Nebraska not noticing it can do a lot better than Rhule as well.

A book could be written about all the ways from Sunday that Nebraska has torpedoed their own program since they fired Frank Solich. Everything they did was a superb lesson in how not to hire a head coach. I think "the return of the great homegrown Scott Frost" which resulted in the inevitable disaster was their realization that they have too many headwinds to overcome and needed a complete rebuild. At this point, Rhule is their ceiling - and give them a few good years, and they'll can Rhule as well for not getting them to the playoffs.

Nebraska could hire a better coach than Rhule - but I doubt they'd perform any better. Where's "Dr." Tom when they need him?

 

[dcf4psu]

Agree somewhat and if it is Meyer, you just have to wonder how long it takes him to self-destruct. Just don't think Saban or Meyer is cut out for today's new CF

To me one of the keys with Meyer would be his staff and having his replacement already with Penn State like Ryan Day was Ohio State.

 

[Texas Lion]

Does nobody here know the history of Sekrah??