Is Monangai back next year?

WhiteBus

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Just so people realize. The money a late drafted running back is looking at is not as big as many think. It's a lot less if you don't get drafted. Isiah Pacheco contract was signed for 4 years. The signing bonus (the only guaranteed portion) was $79,108. His salary per year is $870,000. His biggest value after a monster first year to KC is he is easy to fit under the cap.
 
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NickRU714

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Monangai made us forget how much we were looking forward to the return of Brown.

Let's review:

Monangai first year.. very good.. a "what have we got here" good.

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Monangai 2nd years.. not as good. He was outshined by...

Brown first year (in Monagai's 2nd).. very very good... we got a good one here... then.. injury

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This year.. Monangai 3rd... FANTASTIC.. couldn't ask for more

Brown's 2nd year.. kinda reminds me of Monangai's second year.. BUT.. the injury... it may just ake another year before his body forgets the injury and trusts its wheels to do things like Monangai has done this year. (I kinda wonder if Mag over on the BBALL side will see a similar.. uh.. limitation in his game after his injury.. but I have no doubt he will eventually get over it.. oddly.. if he wasn't an athletic phreak he never would have even attempted the move that hurt him... so reckless with his body.. I don't know any body that could do what he told it to do).

I very much look forward to Browns 3rd year next year... with or without Monangai. If KM goes pro.. he probably will do so before the bowl game. That's my guess.

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Not everyone was dismissing KM. I kept saying KM was our best back last year.
Brown had 1 good game (just 100 yards) and immediately got hurt for the year.
Didn't understand everyone frothing over Brown and neglecting KM.

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bigmatt718

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KM is much better runner than Pacheco. Better Vision, much better acceleration, tougher to bring down, Pacheco ran 4.37 out of nowhere to surprise people. It still landed him 7th round. That goes to show what teams thought of his running...

KM will 100% be drafted and even get his chances in NFL... dude can flat out run
He'd look good standing next to Jalen Hurts and behind that monster Eagles OL next year.
 
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RUAldo

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I don’t think KM has a choice. It will be hard to replicate this season - or even have a season equal or greater. Plus he risks injury. RBs are all about mileage on the body and grinding out another B10 season is asking for trouble.
 

ashokan

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He'd look good standing next to Jalen Hurts and behind that monster Eagles OL next year.

Kelce, Hurts, Monangai lol?

 

Jtung230

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KM is much better runner than Pacheco. Better Vision, much better acceleration, tougher to bring down, Pacheco ran 4.37 out of nowhere to surprise people. It still landed him 7th round. That goes to show what teams thought of his running...

KM will 100% be drafted and even get his chances in NFL... dude can flat out run
KM has better blocking. He is not a better prospect than IP. One thing that will hurt him is his oasscatching skills.
 

Jackson206:)

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Would love for him to come back but for his sake, he needs to go. The QB position is a disaster and you have a coach that is blind to it, do yourself a solid and run to the NFL.
 
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Sam Brown really struggled this year. Did seem to have the toughness after the 1st hit and went down easily. Remember he being much tougher to tackle last year. Schiano said he was not physically ready for the hits early this season..maybe it carried over for the whole season. Hope he regains his form next year.
He is playing hurt, and will be 100% next year.
 
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KMs value will never be higher. He’s spent four years here and is ready. I don’t care where he’s drafted. He is going to have a long NFL career because he has toughness and terrific instincts, not to mention his blocking is top notch. Goto the NFL and make that money, young man! And please remember to support Rutgers Football after you do.
 

bitnez

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KM does a lot of things well but how fast is he? If he can’t run 4.5 he’s not getting drafted before round 4/5.
 

RU#1fan

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Would love for him to come back but for his sake, he needs to go. The QB position is a disaster and you have a coach that is blind to it, do yourself a solid and run to the NFL.
This 100%
As much as I selfishly want Kyle to return it would be ill advised on his part as his has a HC who is totally clueless on Offense and insists on parading out a QB who would never see the field on any other FBS team.
 

RU#1fan

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Does anyone know what position Gabe Winowich, the kid playing with Surace now, is projected to play?
I saw highlights of his Notre Dame game against Hope Valley and he looked like a battering ram. Very hard to bring down. He could be the next Brian Leonard type RB for Rutgers!
 

Kbee3

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KM proved he was the better back vs. Berger. We got the better player. While I hope he stays I thank him for his effort and hard work here.
Some of us saw that Monangai was the better back when they both were playing for Don Bosco.
I wish I could say that I thought he would turn into the back he is today though.
 

RU05

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Just so people realize. The money a late drafted running back is looking at is not as big as many think. It's a lot less if you don't get drafted. Isiah Pacheco contract was signed for 4 years. The signing bonus (the only guaranteed portion) was $79,108. His salary per year is $870,000. His biggest value after a monster first year to KC is he is easy to fit under the cap.
Could he make more then that here on a NIL deal?

What do practice squad players make?
 

RU05

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KM does a lot of things well but how fast is he? If he can’t run 4.5 he’s not getting drafted before round 4/5.
But does he need to get drafted before round 5 to make it worth it?
 

ashokan

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NFL offers pension benefits for players with minimum of 3 games service in each of 3 years.
They get healthcare for after 5 years.
Pacheco base in year one was 705k
Lots of good NIL players making less than that.

Just taking-up space in NFL pays off.
Look at Burton in NFL for 9 seasons since 2015 draft.
He hardly plays and only has 2 TDs and less than 200 combined yds.
But he's making 1,325,000 in 23 while stacking benefit credits - and he's not getting banged-up like crazy
 
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RU05

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Do we know if he has his degree?

I think that plays into it as well.
 

mildone_rivals

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My guess is he goes pro. Not sure where he’d get drafted, maybe he wouldn’t if he doesn’t kill it at the combine. But I think KM just needs his foot in a team’s door and he’ll succeed. He’s that kind of player. Once he gets some game time in preseason, he’ll convince the coaches.
 

TM94goRU

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Running backs don't last long enough for a big second contract in the NFL. I think Kyle goes and makes a name for himself in the NFL.

Either way I think he is gone. If he comes back to college, I look for a big NIL haul to get him off the Banks. Bad for us, but these are the times we live in.
 
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Just so people realize. The money a late drafted running back is looking at is not as big as many think. It's a lot less if you don't get drafted. Isiah Pacheco contract was signed for 4 years. The signing bonus (the only guaranteed portion) was $79,108. His salary per year is $870,000. His biggest value after a monster first year to KC is he is easy to fit under the cap.
With the way rookie contracts are unless he thinks he can move up to the first round the money is not much different. The key in the NFL is to get to you second contract and get your 3 years to qualify for a pension. He a fourth year guy and likely not going to burst up the draft boards by returning and could actually hurt his draft status. The only way he should come back is if he gets a 7 or FA draft grade.
 

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I could see him catching on with a team and being a third back, blocking and special teams. Don't think he is quick enough to be a starter.

Anyone know if Aaron Young can come back with COVID and redshirting? Having him back would make me feel better if Kyle goes. Good things happen when he gets touches. I wouldn't be surprised if he catches on somewhere in the NFL as a FA if he leaves.
 

RUTGERS95

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Not everyone was dismissing KM. I kept saying KM was our best back last year.
Brown had 1 good game (just 100 yards) and immediately got hurt for the year.
Didn't understand everyone frothing over Brown and neglecting KM.

#BoardLegend (is that what we do now when a random mostly uneducated take turns out accurate?)
me too, I wanted him to get the ball 30x a game if anyone cares to look back. I'm not a Brown fan, that debate was played out here as well

I'm not in the Brown or Young camp, both are overrated.

Benji is gonna be good
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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Not everyone was dismissing KM. I kept saying KM was our best back last year.
Brown had 1 good game (just 100 yards) and immediately got hurt for the year.
Didn't understand everyone frothing over Brown and neglecting KM.

#BoardLegend (is that what we do now when a random mostly uneducated take turns out accurate?)
Brown averaged 4.3 and Monangai 4.1 in 2022. Brown was a frosh. There was no way anyone, including YOU, should conclude that Monangai was better at that time. Not unless you are claiming some sort of precognition.

Monangai stood out his first year because no one else did.

THIS year.. Monangai is averaging 5.1 and Brown 3.4... but Browns carries mostly all came later in the season against thought competition. That said, Brown looks worse than last year and not near Monangai level this year. Brown, IMO, is not hitting the hole as quickly or with the same violence as last year... and then he does the "lean forward" thing to "finish" runs... while Monagai hits a wall and keeps those legs pumping trying to get through it.
 
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RUTGERS95

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Brown averaged 4.3 and Monangai 4.1 in 2022. Brown was a frosh. There was no way anyone, including YOU, should conclude that Monangai was better at that time. Not unless you are claiming some sort of precognition.

Monangai stood out his first year because no one else did.

THIS year.. Monangai is averaging 5.1 and Brown 3.4... but Browns carries mostly all came later in the season against thought competition. That said, Brown looks worse than last year and not near Monangai level this year. Brown, IMO, is not hitting the hole as quickly or with the same violence as last year... and then he does the "lean forward" thing to "finish" runs... while Monagai hits a wall and keeps those legs pumping trying to get through it.
I said the same thing regarding his lack of 'violence' at the hole and the cult went nuts (my quote was he runs like Tim Worley but without Tim Worley violence)
He also runs to upright aka TW.

I honestly like what Benji offers with another year of S&C.

Also don't think we threw enough to KM at all.
 
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NickRU714

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Brown averaged 4.3 and Monangai 4.1 in 2022. Brown was a frosh. There was no way anyone, including YOU, should conclude that Monangai was better at that time. Not unless you are claiming some sort of precognition.

Monangai stood out his first year because no one else did.

THIS year.. Monangai is averaging 5.1 and Brown 3.4... but Browns carries mostly all came later in the season against thought competition. That said, Brown looks worse than last year and not near Monangai level this year. Brown, IMO, is not hitting the hole as quickly or with the same violence as last year... and then he does the "lean forward" thing to "finish" runs... while Monagai hits a wall and keeps those legs pumping trying to get through it.

109 carries to 86
445 yards to 374
12 games played to 7 games played
Not injured to injured

I 100% questioned why everyone was losing it over BBrown preseason who was injured and didn't know when he was even rreturing.
Against KM who was the lead back all year except for one good game (28 car 101y, 1 TD and again immediately got injured for the year).

Meanwhile KM had 162 yards against MSU (but it was a loss so nobody cared apparently).
 
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If you want him back pony up some NIL money that will be greater than what a late round draft pick or a free agent would make their first year.