Is there a "crown" on Scott Field or is it flat?
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I thought all football fields had a crown to help drain water. I've heard that the one on Auburn's field is so bad that it can visually confuse quarterbacks and their timing (more than likely BS).
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Scott field is flat
You are correct in that most fields do have a crown. Football fields are recommended to have an 18 inch fall from the center and to each sideline, (approx 51 yds. from sideline to sideline). Since our field has internal drainage and reverse pumps the crown isn't needed.
You are correct in that most fields do have a crown. Football fields are recommended to have an 18 inch fall from the center and to each sideline, (approx 51 yds. from sideline to sideline). Since our field has internal drainage and reverse pumps the crown isn't needed.
Bryant-Denny stadium, when it had artificial turf, had a really high crown. I had sideline seats once, and could barely see the waist of guys on the opposite sideline. Bear allegedly liked the high crown, because his wishbone runningbacks were always running downhill.
We have a Prescription Athletic Turf Feild. (PAT) the old field had a pump hooked into the drain lines that was housed in the North End Zone under the old MSU logo. I'm guessing that pump was phased out in this new renovation.
The flat field is supposed to help kickers especially... Yet to be seen this year.
The flat field is supposed to help kickers especially... Yet to be seen this year.
It's true. When I kicked, the crown made it difficult for hash mark kicks. Onside kicks never behaved right because the slope. It even got in the way during soccer season.
USM's field used to have a pretty big crown, but when they put in the fake grass several years ago, they installed updated drainage that allowed them to remove the crown.
Yes, apparently you won't find any more contrast on crowns than the big crown Auburn has on their field to the lack of any crown on Scott Field. Stan White (former Auburn QB) was saying the week before our game on a radion show about the adjustment Frazier would have to make because White was reflecting back on how flat the MSU football field was compared to Jordan-Hare.
PAT field, yes we have a PAT field and yes we continue to have the pump system in place at Scott Field.
The crown on athletic fields was a requirement on old school artificial fields because they were laid onto of concrete and the water had to go somewhere. Even natural fields had to be crowned without the subterranean drainage systems available today.
First is starts with French drains and gravity then you add suction power of sub air drainage systems. Sub air not only removes excess moisture but it also pulls oxygen through the soils and helps improve the turf's ability to grow.
If any collegiate or professional team doesn't have a flat field it is pure stupidity and lack of funds. It is not cheap but not hard to install these systems.
The PAT fields are flat to a degree depending on how they grade the surface prior to seeding, spriging, or sodding the playing surface. The best surfaces are graded in multiple directions and conclude with circular patterns using laser level systems from multiple areas.
MSU's turf program originally did the playing surface at the Arazona Diamondbacks field as well as a few other professional and collegiate facilities (I believe many years agos they even did the field at Darrell K Royal Memorial Stadium in Austin, Texas but I will admit I do not remember 100%).
Before you bring up Dudy Noble Field the left field area is ( or could be was by now) always crowned and not because of a lack of trying but more so because of a lack of dynamite. That area of the field was on solid rock creating the crown as well as poor turf conditions years ago.
Just my 2 cents.
The crown on athletic fields was a requirement on old school artificial fields because they were laid onto of concrete and the water had to go somewhere. Even natural fields had to be crowned without the subterranean drainage systems available today.
First is starts with French drains and gravity then you add suction power of sub air drainage systems. Sub air not only removes excess moisture but it also pulls oxygen through the soils and helps improve the turf's ability to grow.
If any collegiate or professional team doesn't have a flat field it is pure stupidity and lack of funds. It is not cheap but not hard to install these systems.
The PAT fields are flat to a degree depending on how they grade the surface prior to seeding, spriging, or sodding the playing surface. The best surfaces are graded in multiple directions and conclude with circular patterns using laser level systems from multiple areas.
MSU's turf program originally did the playing surface at the Arazona Diamondbacks field as well as a few other professional and collegiate facilities (I believe many years agos they even did the field at Darrell K Royal Memorial Stadium in Austin, Texas but I will admit I do not remember 100%).
Before you bring up Dudy Noble Field the left field area is ( or could be was by now) always crowned and not because of a lack of trying but more so because of a lack of dynamite. That area of the field was on solid rock creating the crown as well as poor turf conditions years ago.
Just my 2 cents.
PAT field, yes we have a PAT field and yes we continue to have the pump system in place at Scott Field.
The crown on athletic fields was a requirement on old school artificial fields because they were laid onto of concrete and the water had to go somewhere. Even natural fields had to be crowned without the subterranean drainage systems available today.
First is starts with French drains and gravity then you add suction power of sub air drainage systems. Sub air not only removes excess moisture but it also pulls oxygen through the soils and helps improve the turf's ability to grow.
If any collegiate or professional team doesn't have a flat field it is pure stupidity and lack of funds. It is not cheap but not hard to install these systems.
The PAT fields are flat to a degree depending on how they grade the surface prior to seeding, spriging, or sodding the playing surface. The best surfaces are graded in multiple directions and conclude with circular patterns using laser level systems from multiple areas.
MSU's turf program originally did the playing surface at the Arazona Diamondbacks field as well as a few other professional and collegiate facilities (I believe many years agos they even did the field at Darrell K Royal Memorial Stadium in Austin, Texas but I will admit I do not remember 100%).
Before you bring up Dudy Noble Field the left field area is ( or could be was by now) always crowned and not because of a lack of trying but more so because of a lack of dynamite. That area of the field was on solid rock creating the crown as well as poor turf conditions years ago.
Just my 2 cents.
The crown on athletic fields was a requirement on old school artificial fields because they were laid onto of concrete and the water had to go somewhere. Even natural fields had to be crowned without the subterranean drainage systems available today.
First is starts with French drains and gravity then you add suction power of sub air drainage systems. Sub air not only removes excess moisture but it also pulls oxygen through the soils and helps improve the turf's ability to grow.
If any collegiate or professional team doesn't have a flat field it is pure stupidity and lack of funds. It is not cheap but not hard to install these systems.
The PAT fields are flat to a degree depending on how they grade the surface prior to seeding, spriging, or sodding the playing surface. The best surfaces are graded in multiple directions and conclude with circular patterns using laser level systems from multiple areas.
MSU's turf program originally did the playing surface at the Arazona Diamondbacks field as well as a few other professional and collegiate facilities (I believe many years agos they even did the field at Darrell K Royal Memorial Stadium in Austin, Texas but I will admit I do not remember 100%).
Before you bring up Dudy Noble Field the left field area is ( or could be was by now) always crowned and not because of a lack of trying but more so because of a lack of dynamite. That area of the field was on solid rock creating the crown as well as poor turf conditions years ago.
Just my 2 cents.