It begins.Sorry to report.

chitownace777

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Though they weren't world beaters I'm sad to report 4 CPS schools so far have now dropped football this season.Chicago John Hope in it's last season,Chicago Noble Street Charter,Chicago Noble Street Baker & a real shock Chicago Uplift who just a few short years ago went unbeaten and lost to Hales in State in round 1 in 2013 was 8-1 the year before and had a nice 5-4 season last year I think.
 

JFelice

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When do Dunbar and Bowen make that announcement? If you can't field a team week 1 you won't be able to field one week 5.
 

chitownace777

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Have those schools forfeited in week 1? I recall a few CPS schools forfeited in week 1 and 2 then made the state playoffs.Horrible
 

CPSFan

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Things have been absolutely terrible here. There are far too many programs and not enough kids interested in football. There may be more to come.
 

JFelice

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Things have been absolutely terrible here. There are far too many programs and not enough kids interested in football. There may be more to come.
That's unfortunate, really unfortunate. Feel for the kids that thought they were playing.
 

mc140

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When do Dunbar and Bowen make that announcement? If you can't field a team week 1 you won't be able to field one week 5.
Sure you can. They don't start school until week 3. A few cps team forfeit one of their non cons every year.
 
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JFelice

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Sure you can. They don't start school until week 3. A few cps team forfeit one of their non cons every year.
If kids aren't registered now they will need 12 practices first. Then you have to worry about kids quitting, eligibility etc. If a team can't field enough now when those things aren't of concern then that tells me it's not looking good.
 

chitownace777

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Dunbar used to be good.Bowen never.Naz should have been playing Fenwick not messing with those teams.Not only do you risk it playing them but your lower levels have to go find other schools to play.They lost a home gate plus concessions and other sales.2,000 CPS schools struggle to get kids out of gangs and on the field.Where are these NFL players and groups who care so much? they should be donating money to buy top equipment for CPS teams and talking to the kids to get off the streets and on the field
 
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mc140

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Dunbar used to be good.Bowen never.Naz should have been playing Fenwick not messing with those teams.Not only do you risk it playing them but your lower levels have to go find other schools to play.They lost a home gate plus concessions and other sales.2,000 CPS schools struggle to get kids out of gangs and on the field.Where are these NFL players and groups who care so much? they should be donating money to buy top equipment for CPS teams and talking to the kids to get off the streets and on the field

Argo cancelled their Frosh team.
 

mc140

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If kids aren't registered now they will need 12 practices first. Then you have to worry about kids quitting, eligibility etc. If a team can't field enough now when those things aren't of concern then that tells me it's not looking good.

You really think everyone playing this weekend will have 12 practices in? There are suburban schools that have made the playoffs and half their roster didn't even have an up to date physical.
 

Penlight

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Perhaps a huge part of the problem is the CPS needs to have schools of 2000 plus kids like the burbs have, not 3A and 4A size..

You have made a good point.
Unfortunately, I cannot see Karen Lewis & company, the politically connected suppliers & the politicians with whom they are connected letting this happen as it would kill their Golden Goose.
I truly hope and wish I am wrong.
 
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CPSFan

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Look at the enrollment drops in the neighborhood schools. Dunbar was over 1000 kids a few years ago, now they are at 546. Even if CPS consolidates many neighborhood schools there are still around 68 charter high schools, many of which carry low enrollment numbers.

Bottom line is Chicago has way too many high schools.
 
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BBCHS77

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What I don't get is that the Lincoln Way district was kinda forced it seemed to close LWN because of their financial status.. that was a 7A sized school... yet CPS is in much worse shape and they have a ton of 3A and 4A sized schools??? Makes no sense
 

woody6

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What I don't get is that the Lincoln Way district was kinda forced it seemed to close LWN because of their financial status.. that was a 7A sized school... yet CPS is in much worse shape and they have a ton of 3A and 4A sized schools??? Makes no sense
Much different story closing a school in a city neighborhood (one "turf") and moving the students into another city neighborhood (potentially a rival "turf"). Not exactly the same situation as moving students from the east part of Frankfort to the west, for example.
 

BBCHS77

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Much different story closing a school in a city neighborhood (one "turf") and moving the students into another city neighborhood (potentially a rival "turf"). Not exactly the same situation as moving students from the east part of Frankfort to the west, for example.

So the entire state educational system suffers because of their discipline problems???
 

chitownace777

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What I don't get is that the Lincoln Way district was kinda forced it seemed to close LWN because of their financial status.. that was a 7A sized school... yet CPS is in much worse shape and they have a ton of 3A and 4A sized schools??? Makes no sense
I don't want to get banned but it makes a lot of sense.It's all about the color & I'm not talking about money.
 

chitownace777

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Argo cancelled their Frosh team.
Argo has always had trouble for some reason in getting kids out for football.My buddy coached there years ago and was steadily getting 40,50 even 60 kids out for football!!! In fact 3 years in a row they had enough for a full 9 games Frosh A AND B team schedule!!! He moved up to sophomore where they were going 5-4,6-3,7-2 with numbers in the 40's(including many of the top players going to Varsity) he was a great coach and well liked.He should have gotten head coach.He retired so he could watch his kids in sports at another school.1,831 is the enrollment.say 915 boys 916 girls.915 divided by 4 is around 228.Out of about 228 kids you can't even get 30 of those out for football.That is sad.If you did that each class you'd have a decent number Frosh and Soph team and 60 player Varsity which would be awesome.But many play soccer there or don't go out at all.
 

mc140

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What I don't get is that the Lincoln Way district was kinda forced it seemed to close LWN because of their financial status.. that was a 7A sized school... yet CPS is in much worse shape and they have a ton of 3A and 4A sized schools??? Makes no sense

I don't think anyone has to worry about getting shot at waiting for a bus in New Lenox to take them to Frankfurt because they are in another territory for school.
 

DigitalCy

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If a school cares about and makes the efforts to run a football program, then football will always be fine at that school. CPS obviously has way too many schools, but only a handful of them actually care about football. Then again, many of them only care about boys basketball and nothing else so all the other sports truly suffer
 

woody6

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The exceptionally late start to the actual school year in the CPS is a huge contributing factor to the numbers problems in many programs.
 

ignazio

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Look at the enrollment drops in the neighborhood schools. Dunbar was over 1000 kids a few years ago, now they are at 546. Even if CPS consolidates many neighborhood schools there are still around 68 charter high schools, many of which carry low enrollment numbers.

Bottom line is Chicago has way too many high schools.

Bottom line is Chicago has way too many high schools families don't want to attend.
 

BretEpic

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Perhaps a huge part of the problem is the CPS needs to have schools of 2000 plus kids like the burbs have, not 3A and 4A size..
So combine kids from different areas where gangs more than likely conflict? That's a great idea.
 

USD24

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Can the CPS schools co-op for football? Do any of them do this?
 

Cross Bones

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I can see this has turned into another stormfront gathering with chitownaces and HHS
 

BBCHS77

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Why not just let have each gang have their own high school??

Vice Lord Career Prep, Black Disciples High School etc....
 

kpjasion

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Can the CPS schools co-op for football? Do any of them do this?

I was thinking the same thing.. There's a Morton East and Morton West, but "Morton" sports teams. There's an East Leyden and a West Leyden, but "Leyden" sports teams. To me, if they want to get kids involved in sports and keep them out of other crap, they should be doing anything they can to make athletics work in the city.
 
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BBCHS77

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I think it is time you head back to the Disney boards.

Because I am not a supporter of letting the gangs run the school system??????

I can not think of a more dysfunctional system than the CPS, an absolute joke..
 

USD24

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I was thinking the same thing.. There's a Morton East and Morton West, but "Morton" sports teams. There's an East Leyden and a West Leyden, but "Leyden" sports teams. To me, if they want to get kids involved in sports and keep them out of other crap, they should be doing anything they can to make athletics work in the city.

In doing some research, it appears that there are already a handful of CPS schools that co-op. You would think it would make sense for more of then to do it rather than completely drop programs.
 
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ramblinman_rivals165935

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Perhaps a huge part of the problem is the CPS needs to have schools of 2000 plus kids like the burbs have, not 3A and 4A size..

From football and budgetary perspectives, perhaps. But from an educational perspective and from an adolescent development perspective, I strongly disagree.

CPS needs smaller schools, not huge factory schools where kids can become invisible far more easily than in small-medium sized schools.
 
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BBCHS77

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From football and budgetary perspectives, perhaps. But from an educational perspective and from an adolescent development perspective, I strongly disagree.

CPS needs smaller schools, not huge factory schools where kids can become invisible far more easily than in small-medium sized schools.

So should every school district do the same thing? You don't think kids become "invisible" in all large suburban schools?
 

ramblinman_rivals165935

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So should every school district do the same thing? You don't think kids become "invisible" in all large suburban schools?

Districts should do what they think is right for their district. If you agree, then why do you want CPS high schools to be like suburban school districts with high school enrollments of 2000?

I'm just saying that I disagree that CPS schools should be sized just like suburban schools of 2000.

Clearly, history, population growth (or decline), school financing, and other factors come into play that ultimately determine school size. In Chicago's case, it is the city's population decline combined with the growth of charter schools that has resulted in substantially smaller CPS high schools.