IT Is Coming Again This Week.

patdog

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There's no way in hell they're releasing the letter until after signing day. Bjork's statement was very carefully worded to imply that this is no big deal but he's left himself a lot of weasel room to say that he technically didn't lie. "most of the allegations involve women's basketball and track." This leaves room for up to 15 out of the 32 violations to involve football. "The football violations date back to the former football staff in 2010 and the withholding and reinstatement process around Laremy Tunsil in fall of 2015." Implies that the Tunsil suspension is the only recent football violation, but he never said that. Also, he never said there were only 5 football violations in the letter.
 

coach66

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The rumor is the Academic fraud stuff is not included in this first round.

Guess we will have to wait and see. If it is not included then I suspect some folks up north are going to be pretty puckered because the Waynesboro machine worked its magic on several recruits I believe.
 

missouridawg

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If this is true, then **** is going to get real in Oxfords. Lack of institutional control would be a guarantee then.
 

birdawg

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Seems like it would be smart of the NCAA to wait until OM responds to the first NOA before sending a second in order to get them in a catch 22
 

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I can't imagine the academic fraud stuff isn't in this letter. We know the NCAA has already concluded the ULL part of the investigation and given Saunders a long show-cause order. And we know that investigation grew out of an earlier investigation of UM for academic fraud. And we also know that at least some of the football allegations in the letter date back to the Nutt era (presumably including the Saunders stuff). It's a very big stretch to think they still haven't finished the UM part of that investigation.
 

patdog

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The NCAA doesn't work that way. It's not out to "get" schools. And it shouldn't be. You've got to give schools due process and be fair to them.
 

birdawg

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I agree that's what it should be but we're talking about attorneys here that must justify to their bosses why a certain amount of resources were dedicated to this and it's driven by results. My point really is I don't see a second NOA happening this week.
 

ShrubDog

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All I can gather at this point is that the second letter is pure speculation unlike the first letter. Unless I missed a black and white narrative.
 

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I can't imagine the academic fraud stuff isn't in this letter. We know the NCAA has already concluded the ULL part of the investigation and given Saunders a long show-cause order. And we know that investigation grew out of an earlier investigation of UM for academic fraud. And we also know that at least some of the football allegations in the letter date back to the Nutt era (presumably including the Saunders stuff). It's a very big stretch to think they still haven't finished the UM part of that investigation.

All true. What we don't necessarily know however is who else Saunders threw under the bus. Perhaps some people who still haven't been totally as forthcoming as Saunders.
 

BossDawg78

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Maybe the first letter was actually about older allegations and that it had already been drafted, then the Tunsil and Saunders stuff blew another hole in everything. I'm thinking there's basically two different investigations: one for the "older" allegations and now one for the "newer" allegations.

Just throwing s#!t at the wall....
 

yjnkdawg

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I know Ole Miss could end all negative speculation by simply releasing the letter. The fact that they prefer the negative speculation to revealing the actuality is telling.


Could it be that it is worse than they say? They sure wouldn't want to have that recruting class freaking out, would they?
 

dogfan96

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Ask Todd McNair and USC.. there's pretty good email evidence that the head guy (the Miami president at the time I believe) was out to get them any way he could. Meanwhile Shapiro was running wild right under his nose at the U.