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615dawg

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High school students that reside in counties that border Mississippi should be extended in-state tuition, or at the very least a 90 percent waiver. Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee and Louisiana do it.

I have a friend that lives in Northwest Alabama. You can literally go into their back yard and punt a football and it would land in Mississippi. His daughter desperately wants to come to MSU - has a scholarship and wants to major in engineering. The out of state tuition is going to keep a good student from coming.

If the opposite were true (they lived in Mississippi and could punt a ball into Alabama), she would be able to attend Alabama at in-state tuition rates.

Needless to say, the family is very frustrated. The best I have been able to come up with is would she sing in the choir? They offer a 90 percent waiver. However, she doesn't really care for that and doesn't really want to commit an hour a day for her entire college career. Frankly, I agree - too many hoops to jump through.
 
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High school students that reside in counties that border Mississippi should be extended in-state tuition, or at the very least a 90 percent waiver. Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee and Louisiana do it.

I have a friend that lives in Northwest Alabama. You can literally go into their back yard and punt a football and it would land in Mississippi. His daughter desperately wants to come to MSU - has a scholarship and wants to major in engineering. The out of state tuition is going to keep a good student from coming.

If the opposite were true (they lived in Mississippi and could punt a ball into Alabama), she would be able to attend Alabama at in-state tuition rates.

Needless to say, the family is very frustrated. The best I have been able to come up with is would she sing in the choir? They offer a 90 percent waiver. However, she doesn't really care for that and doesn't really want to commit an hour a day for her entire college career. Frankly, I agree - too many hoops to jump through.
 
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maroonmania

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children of MSU graduates that live out of state. Is the out of state tuition waived for them? Partailly waived? What's the deal?
 
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patdog

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is it really fair for Mississippi taxpayers to pay for the education of an Alabama resident. One option would be for her to establish residency in Mississippi when she does go to college. I think it takes a year to do that so she'd still have to pay 1 year's out of state tuition. I have a nephew living in Alabama that is considering MSU and he's up against the same thing. He doesn't live in a county that borders Mississippi though.
 
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Auburn does not grant residency or any other type of waivers to Georgia students who live close by. While there used to be steps in place to allow this, it is no longer the case here. What school could a Mississippi resident attend in Alabama for in state rates?

I know you are intelligent, so just consider the reasoning why this is the case. Your friends family lives in Alabama. They presumably work in Alabama. They pay TAXES in Alabama. The tax dollars are what support the schools in Alabama, although the level of support is reducing every year. Therefore, she gets to go to school cheaper in Alabama. The same is true in Mississippi. Taxes support MSU. What your friends are basically asking for is to be able to attend school in a state where they have not been paying taxes to support the university. That's why out of state tuition exists for public schools. I understand their frustration and hear about it all the time from people here. But the reality of economics in higher ed these days is universities need full-pay out of state students, not waivers.
 
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615dawg

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its a strange situation - both of her parents actually work in Mississippi - just happen to live in Alabama. There are a few kids that live in Mississippi that actually go to school in Alabama (special waiver by the state to allow this, as they are 4 miles from the school system in Alabama and 18 miles to the school system in Mississippi.)

I do understand why its the way it is, but all I am saying is that Alabama schools that are close in proximity to the border are allowing Mississippi students to attend at in-state rates, we should consider doing the same.

From South Alabama's web site:

Residents of Escambia and Santa Rosa counties in Florida, and George, Greene, Harrison, Jackson, Perry and Stone counties in Mississippi are considered "Service Area Residents" and will not be charged out-of-state fees. Students are required to submit documents to substantiate their residency in these counties.

From West Alabama's web site

Residents of Clarke, Kemper, and Lauderdale counties in Mississippi are considered "Service Area Residents" and will not be charged out-of-state fees. Students are required to submit documents to substantiate their residency in these counties.

The wording makes it seem like a state policy.

Tennessee board of regents approved this policy: http://www.memphis.edu/newsarchive/jun05/border.php

State of Georgia policy:

Students domiciled in an out-of-state county bordering Georgia, enrolling in a program offered at a location approved by the Board of Regents and for which the offering institution has been granted permission to award Border County waivers.
 
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especially, in my opinion, should get that waiver.

i've heard of kids minoring in some ******** program that MSU has, that you can't get in their home state just to get the in-state tuition. that's a little extra work, but there seems to be plenty of kids that do it.
 
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in answer to your rhetorical question of where a Mississippian can go to school in Alabama for in-state rates? University of South Alabama....allows coast residents to come at in-state rates. There is a very large number of coast residents taking advantage of their offer.
 
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615dawg

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yeah it works, but what if you want to major in something that is offered in the state. All I am saying is that I know tax payers in Mississippi are supplementing tuition for Mississippi residents, but ****, if we opened that up to even the playing field we'd probably increase the quality and quantity of the freshman class. Seriously, someone from Tate County (which borders Lafayette County) can go to the University of Memphis for the in-state rate but someone from Memphis cannot go to Ole Miss, or someone from Pickens County, Alabama can't go to MUW but someone from Meridian can go to UWA?
 
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a 24 ACT and 3.0 gpa gets out of state waivered.. the 3.0 in high is achievable.. 24 is not that bad, either.
jcdawgman18 said:
I don't remember what it is exactly, but if she is going to be in engineering it is probably not too terribly much of a stretch. If she's a couple points off, just take the ACT again and see if you can get the waiver.
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615dawg

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She's a good student, not sure what her GPA is but has a 26 ACT. Surely she has a 3.0 GPA.

That actually seems fair to me.
 
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I would sign up for the distance MBA <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">right now.</span>

I think it should at least be extended to those who either graduated high school in MS or were born in MS.
 
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615dawg

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This girl was born in Tupelo, they do 95% of their shopping in Tupelo or Amory, they just happen to live in the edge of Alabama.
 
DawgatAuburn

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I knew Auburn and Bama had closed that door. Usually the other schools follow our lead on most things. I guess it does not surprise me though. Both those schools need the students. Auburn and Bama turn away a good number, although Bama is in full on "accept anyone with a pulse" mode because they want to be 30k or something like that. Their president is all about having more more more more while AU is looking to maintain while getting better students.
 
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If the child has a Mississippi birth certificate, there is no out of state tuition. Just produce the birth certificate with the application. My daughter was considering State and we found this out.
 
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Be careful how you read that. There is a 50% waiver for children of alums (used to be 100% of out-of-state). For children of non-alums, they can apply for a scholarship that would cover 100% of tuition. The minimum requirements for the scholarship are the 24 ACT and 3.0 GPA, but this is a competitive scholarship that will be awarded based on a comparison with other applicants from her region.

I got a regional scholarship to cover out of state tuition many years ago when I atteneded State. A few weeks later we learned that my dad qualified as an alum, so I could get out-of-state waived. Unfortunately, MSU never awarded my scholarship to anyone else and kept trying to give me the money. This would have been funny, but for the fact that I had inadvertently screwed some other Alabama resident out of a regional scholarship.
 
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Fall, Spring, Summer, and then she goes to MSU as a sophomore with out-of-state waived.

Northeast offers full rides for ACT scores.
 
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