It sucks but with the 25 limit there are quality QB prospects available....

DAWG61

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Time to start an MSU men's lacrosse team filled with football players that "walk-on" the football team.
 

dawgman42

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Is there a metrosexual QB on the team of next year's #1 recruit in the country?

We should offer the kid immediately. I mean, can he be any worse than what we've gotten to campus lately?
 

randystewart

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All of you people going all chicken little over the QB recruits need to chill the 17 out. We have a QB committed better than any of the ones who have chosen not to visit. Also, didn't O'Korn choose not to visit AFTER talking with Mullen?
All of this BS about needing a just in case 3rd string QB is just 17ing ridiculous. I mean, if you get down to your 3rd string QB you are screwed anyway so you might as well be playing the walkon.
 

Railin Jemmye

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I agree. People forget Cord Sandberg is a program changer. We just need a little luck with him and the MLB draft. I figure it's about time Lady Luck landed on us after the Cam-gate, and all the bball players we lost to the NBA before they changed the rule.
 

DISTRICT DOG

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All of you people going all chicken little over the QB recruits need to chill the 17 out.
All of this BS about needing a just in case 3rd string QB is just 17ing ridiculous. I mean, if you get down to your 3rd string QB you are screwed anyway so you might as well be playing the walkon.

you can not be serious with that statement. Ask Maryland how important a 3rd string QB is, hell ask them how important a 4th string QB is. All 4 of their QB's were hurt this year and they had to play a 17'n MLB at QB this year...so yea, I would say us signing someone in case Cord takes the baseball money is a very big deal.
 

randystewart

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We have several other players on the team/committed that played HS QB. We have emergency options. Also, have we ever in the history of the program been able to keep a qualified QB on the roster who was willing to be 3rd string? No, they all transfer out. It makes absolutely zero difference for us to sign someone this year, because I assure you they would transfer out next year. If you were a QB recruit right now, would you be willing to piss away your options by signing with us knowing you are plan B in case Cord goes MLB?
 

Railin Jemmye

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That last option is one thing people willingly forget. I still say we should go after a JUCO QB that has few offers, just to be a real option at #3. Somebody who's just lucky to be on the team and get a shot. At least they've proven to be able to play QB at the next level above High School.
 

patdog

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Nobody forgets that Sandberg is a very good signee IF he shows up on campus. But our chances are 50-50 at best on that. And if he doesn't show up, we are <17>ed.
 

CadaverDawg

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All of you people going all chicken little over the QB recruits need to chill the 17 out. We have a QB committed better than any of the ones who have chosen not to visit. Also, didn't O'Korn choose not to visit AFTER talking with Mullen?
All of this BS about needing a just in case 3rd string QB is just 17ing ridiculous. I mean, if you get down to your 3rd string QB you are screwed anyway so you might as well be playing the walkon.

This is not about a "3rd string QB"...it's about a 2nd string QB in 2014. I think some of you are missing the importance. If we don't get another QB, and Cord doesn't make it to campus (which he could), then we will have Dak starting and either a freshman, JUCO , or walk on QB, as our primary backup that year. Does that help clear up the importance?

That being said...I agree that it's a little early to panic, because I still think we will get another QB in this class...But, if we don't, it will just be really important to get Cord on campus.

Everybody keep in mind...the draft isn't until AFTER Cord makes it to campus for football. So maybe once he gets to campus and gets going, he won't want to leave. Cord is definitely a program changer for our style of offense, and we need to make it very clear to him that we all know this to be true. We need him more for our ability to kick *** with him, than we do for our 2013 recruiting class and roster situation.
 
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bonedaddy401

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So TR goes down, you are comfortable being one play away from a nobody....

being at the helm? Not me. Even if #3 was a freshman I'd rather have a guy who other decent D-1 teams offered than a walk on nobody but directional Alabama offered. Especially when our second string guy is someone who will be taking a bunch of shots running the ball.

We messed up not getting Dobbs or O'Korn. Or any other decent QB. There is no denying that.
 

randystewart

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We messed up not getting Dobbs or O'Korn. Or any other decent QB. There is no denying that.

This is the problem with this whole argument. "messed up"???? People saying Mullen can't recruit QBs...... All ridiculous. I guarantee that if we dropped Cord, we could get Dobbs or O'Korn, but how do you people expect us to sign one of those guys when they know they could be behind our Option A QB for their entire career. The same idiots saying Mullen can't recruit QBs are calling Cord a program changer....
 

DISTRICT DOG

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Especially when our second string guy is someone who will be taking a bunch of shots running the ball.

^^^THIS^^^

You HAVE to sign a QB this year, no other way around it. We already put ourselves in this position by not getting anyone last year. If TR goes down for the season and Dak has to play every game, his style of play makes him vulnerable to getting injured. Unless we get 17'n Willie Beamen as a walk on...I would much rather have someone who at least had a few options to play at other decent schools than someone on our team who is playing WR or DB or god forbid MLB to come in a play the rest of the season at Quarterback.
 

CadaverDawg

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This is the problem with this whole argument. "messed up"? People saying Mullen can't recruit QBs...... All ridiculous. I guarantee that if we dropped Cord, we could get Dobbs or O'Korn, but how do you people expect us to sign one of those guys when they know they could be behind our Option A QB for their entire career. The same idiots saying Mullen can't recruit QBs are calling Cord a program changer....

Ryan Buchanan and Devante Kincade disagree with this.
 

randystewart

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We already put ourselves in this position by not getting anyone last year.

Ummmmm, we DID sign a QB last year, and we WILL "sign" one this year. This ridiculousness of acting like Mullen is just sitting around with his thumb up his *** must stop.
 

boatsandhoes

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I'm late to the pity party. So there is no chance dobbs is visiting this weekend? O'korn tweeted that he is sticking with Houston after talking to mullens? That about right?
 

bonedaddy401

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Ever heard of a guy named Dak Prescott?

We have several other players on the team/committed that played HS QB. We have emergency options. Also, have we ever in the history of the program been able to keep a qualified QB on the roster who was willing to be 3rd string? No, they all transfer out. It makes absolutely zero difference for us to sign someone this year, because I assure you they would transfer out next year. If you were a QB recruit right now, would you be willing to piss away your options by signing with us knowing you are plan B in case Cord goes MLB?

He committed to us with Relf, Tyler Russell AND Dylan Favre on the roster.
 

CadaverDawg

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I'm late to the pity party. So there is no chance dobbs is visiting this weekend? O'korn tweeted that he is sticking with Houston after talking to mullens? That about right?

Yep, and half of our fan base is on the ledge, while the other half is telling everyone they're idiots for overreacting. Truth lies in the middle.
 

randystewart

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Not even close, Dak has known from Day 1 that he had a pretty good shot at being the starter when Russell left.
 

randystewart

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Truth lies in the middle.

I actually agree with you here. It is definitely concerning if Cord goes MLB. I'm simply trying to point out how dumb it is to criticize Mullen like he is sitting in his office watching internet porn instead of trying to get another QB. Also, if Cord does not go MLB, we are in great shape.
 

CadaverDawg

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I actually agree with you here. It is definitely concerning if Cord goes MLB. I'm simply trying to point out how dumb it is to criticize Mullen like he is sitting in his office watching internet porn instead of trying to get another QB. Also, if Cord does not go MLB, we are in great shape.

But nobody is saying Mullen isn't doing ****...they're saying whatever the 17 he IS doing isn't working. And for the most part they're right. If Cord makes it, that's great. But to be in a potential situation we could be in without Cord, is unacceptable.
 

bonedaddy401

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Now he does... you can't say he did when he signed...

What if Favre had panned out? I remember plenty of debate on here about just that.

My man..... we needed to sign a serviceable QB this year. Period. Going two years without signing one decent guy WILL catch up with you.

If Cord works out that's an awesome thing for us but if he doesn't we just have to hope we stay healthy at a position that in our offense takes lots of shots in the toughest conference in the game.
 

randystewart

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I know he didn't pan out because he was a *****, but was he not a QB that we signed last year with other legit offers? You can't just conveniently leave him out because he was too big of a ***** to stick around. We did recruit and sign him.
 

DISTRICT DOG

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But nobody is saying Mullen isn't doing ****...they're saying whatever the 17 he IS doing isn't working.

Exactly, I have faith that Mullen is trying to do whatever he can to get the best QB possible to MSU. With that being said, we obviously are not doing a very good job at it. Facts are Facts, and you simply can not go 2 years in a row without signing a QB, especially with our attrition rate at that position. You saying that it isn't that big of a deal, shows me that you have no idea what you are talking about it when it comes to preparing for the future.
 

DISTRICT DOG

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yea we beat out Colorado State...I for one can not believe we stole a recruit from such a national powerhouse***
 

bonedaddy401

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Would you not agree he was a better football prospect than the bums we are left recruiting now that we missed on Dobbs and O'Korn? He was a Parade all american and Mr. Football at least.

This is about us missing on QB's we want. We haven't landed our A target under Mullen yet. We signed Favre FOR THE SAME REASON. He wasn't plan A. That's what is concerning for people. Year after year to different degrees we have to settle on bums.
 

patdog

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Two problems I have with Mullen's QB recruiting. One, he didn't appear to try nearly hard enough to sign a QB last year when he needed to. And two, I'm really not interested at all with how hard he's trying this year. I'm only interested in how successful he is. If Sandberg chooses football, he was successful this year. If Sandberg chooses baseball, he failed miserably.