It's harder than it looks even at the pro level...
- Thread starter BoDawg.sixpack
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Nope, when I read “Pro”, Lebby never crossed my mind.
Is it harder though? You had Deshaun Watson who had some red flags to say the least although he was at least talented. AFter that, who was expected to be good? A couple of has beens/not quite weres. A few obvious reaches. Were the ones I don't even recognize supposed to be solid bets?
I think it was Colin Cowherd that said after the Browns drafted Baker "I guess their just going to draft a QB every year until they get it right".
It is amazing how bad their QB room has been since maybe Brian Sipe.
It is amazing how bad their QB room has been since maybe Brian Sipe.
Cleveland QBs by year from 1999 to 2023.
- 1999 — Tim Couch, Ty Detmer
- 2000 — Couch, Doug Pederson, Spergon Wynn
- 2001 — Couch
- 2002 — Couch, Kelly Holcomb
- 2003 — Couch, Holcomb
- 2004 — Holcomb, Jeff Garcia, Luke McCown
- 2005 — Trent Dilfer, Charlie Frye
- 2006 — Frye, Derek Anderson
- 2007 — Anderson, Frye
- 2008 — Anderson, Brady Quinn, Ken Dorsey, Bruce Gradkowski
- 2009 — Anderson, Quinn
- 2010 — Colt McCoy, Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace
- 2011 — McCoy, Wallace
- 2012 — Brandon Weeden, Thad Lewis
- 2013 -- Weeden, Jason Campbell, Brian Hoyer
- 2014 -- Hoyer, Johnny Manziel, Connor Shaw
- 2015 -- Manziel, Josh McCown, Austin Davis
- 2016 -- J. McCown, Cody Kessler, Robert Griffin III
- 2017 -- DeShone Kizer, Kevin Hogan
- 2018 -- Baker Mayfield, Tyrod Taylor
- 2019 -- Mayfield
- 2020 -- Mayfield
- 2021 -- Mayfield, Case Keenum, Nick Mullens
- 2022 -- Jacoby Brissett, Deshaun Watson
- 2023 -- Watson, Joe Flacco, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, P.J. Walker, Jeff Driskel
At some point you take a developmental risk and you expect one out of a handful to work eventually work out. I think we're seeing that with Tyler Shough in New orleans.
I think it helps when you take low cost risks. The saints used a 2nd round pick on Shough. Definitely a real cost but assuming it's their own, not exactly betting the farm.
Part of the Brown's problem may be what they lost to get Watson. I don't know what you'd expect out of 3 first round picks, a third, and a fourth, but I would assume competent organizations are going to get two regular starters out of that? Maybe three? But definitely not helping your qb to have 3 first round picks and a 3rd and 4th over a three year period just turn into smoke. Then you throw a project QB or a game manager QB in and ask them to deal with a surrounding cast that has a talent deficit.