So which stereotype are we? School with sidewalk alumni with tattooed confederate flag-toting mouth-breathers, or privileged, yuppie greek kids?
Seen both sides here. Y'all decide our identity and get back with me when you can
I've never disliked Ole Miss fans as a whole until this year....
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So which stereotype are we? School with sidewalk alumni with tattooed confederate flag-toting mouth-breathers, or privileged, yuppie greek kids?
Seen both sides here. Y'all decide our identity and get back with me when you can
I didn't say Banks "wasn't any good anyway." And I don't believe
it. He's a really good player. I said his on-field performance did not have as much impact as Wallace's did. I hope Johnthan Banks makes $50 million and makes All-Pro (especially if he's a Saint). I root for all the Mississippi kids in the pros. Well...that's not true...I couldn't root for Favre toward the end, but that's a special circumstance.
And I'll be the first to admit that Ole Miss is no better than State academically. The admissions standards are the same.
However, I believe that anything and everything that can be said about on-field (or court) performance is fair game for smack talk. And I give my State friends holy hell. They shake it off, just like I do when they bust my balls. The only way anyone can take any of this sports smack talk personally is if they don't have anything else going on in life. When it expands to calling us "the Klan" or State a bunch of rednecks or attacking the character of the players or coaches, then yeah, I see getting ******** over that.
(Now, insert 10 posts saying "yeah, but all Ole Miss fans really ARE racists!!!!1111!!! Because there will inevitably be a bunch of people who don't understand what I'm saying or have just convinced themselves that no one who chose to pursue an education at Ole Miss can be anything less than evil)
it. He's a really good player. I said his on-field performance did not have as much impact as Wallace's did. I hope Johnthan Banks makes $50 million and makes All-Pro (especially if he's a Saint). I root for all the Mississippi kids in the pros. Well...that's not true...I couldn't root for Favre toward the end, but that's a special circumstance.
And I'll be the first to admit that Ole Miss is no better than State academically. The admissions standards are the same.
However, I believe that anything and everything that can be said about on-field (or court) performance is fair game for smack talk. And I give my State friends holy hell. They shake it off, just like I do when they bust my balls. The only way anyone can take any of this sports smack talk personally is if they don't have anything else going on in life. When it expands to calling us "the Klan" or State a bunch of rednecks or attacking the character of the players or coaches, then yeah, I see getting ******** over that.
(Now, insert 10 posts saying "yeah, but all Ole Miss fans really ARE racists!!!!1111!!! Because there will inevitably be a bunch of people who don't understand what I'm saying or have just convinced themselves that no one who chose to pursue an education at Ole Miss can be anything less than evil)
They have a school of engineering and it is all in one building. We have a college of engineering. Any one of our engineering departments does more funded research than virtually their entire university. Confederates who argue these points know no more about the subject than a hog knows about salvation.
seriously? you've never heard oxford dissed? an ole miss degree dissed? you must not use the internet.
State has single engineering departments that do more funded
research than University Medical Center plus the Ole Miss Pharmacy School plus the rest of Ole Miss combined?
That's quite impressive. Would love to see some numbers to back that up.
research than University Medical Center plus the Ole Miss Pharmacy School plus the rest of Ole Miss combined?
That's quite impressive. Would love to see some numbers to back that up.
This... I never realized how bad it was until I went to work after graduation. I work with a bunch of OM fans who didn't even graduate from community college, yet they claim to be the world's biggest rebel fans. I have yet to have a day go by where someone hasn't reminded me of the score of the egg bowl, posted some kind of trash talk on sticky notes on my desk, or made some snide comment about MSU. I would understand it if I had done some kind of provoking or trash talk prior to the game, but I refrained from any trash talking (my response to someone asking for a prediction of the game was "whoever wants it bad enough will win"). I learned my lesson after the 45-0 blowout when I predicted a State win with some bear fans because we had beat Arky the week before.
I guess it's the whole perception of State fans since Mullen has been our mouthpiece since we won the past 3 years... but to say they didn't have it coming then would be a fallacy. I still hate them with a passion.
Both. The sidewalk fans are the tattooed, confederate flag toting mouth breathers, and the students/alumni are the privileged, "diddy'll take care of it," yuppie greek kids.
You're identity is figured out, homeslice; you people are just a bunch of racist ********. Seriously, y'all are some of the most pretentious, pompous douchebags that ride the coattails of a few good seasons back in the good ole days when "whites where wyatt and coloreds were colored and things used to make sense." You may have a beautiful campus to party on but you display no class or sense of humility when it comes to football. TSUN has not been relevant in football since the sixties.
Mississippi state shows that we want to build and deserve to be taken seriously because we are on a mission to improve. TSUN shows that they feel they belong with the Bamas, Flardas, LSUs and UGAs of the college football world when in reality those big programs laugh when they hear that.
It's okay to be realistic.
It's okay that LSU, TSUN's biggest rival/toughest competitor from the good ole days, kept moving on and building on success while TSUN didn't. There is nothing wrong with that. They have one major, big-time program in the state and they get to pick and choose who they want to play, while Mississippi State -- and even USM at times -- takes away from TSUN's recruiting grounds. They just have better talent. Well, and realistic expectations.
You're identity is figured out, homeslice; you people are just a bunch of racist ********. Seriously, y'all are some of the most pretentious, pompous douchebags that ride the coattails of a few good seasons back in the good ole days when "whites where wyatt and coloreds were colored and things used to make sense." You may have a beautiful campus to party on but you display no class or sense of humility when it comes to football. TSUN has not been relevant in football since the sixties.
Mississippi state shows that we want to build and deserve to be taken seriously because we are on a mission to improve. TSUN shows that they feel they belong with the Bamas, Flardas, LSUs and UGAs of the college football world when in reality those big programs laugh when they hear that.
It's okay to be realistic.
It's okay that LSU, TSUN's biggest rival/toughest competitor from the good ole days, kept moving on and building on success while TSUN didn't. There is nothing wrong with that. They have one major, big-time program in the state and they get to pick and choose who they want to play, while Mississippi State -- and even USM at times -- takes away from TSUN's recruiting grounds. They just have better talent. Well, and realistic expectations.
I hate Ole Miss
Their culture is counter to virtually everything I stand for as a human being, and more importantly, their failure is my success as they are the direct competition. Only room enough for one of us.
Have plenty of family members who went their; they are all less than they would be without the experience, and I resent them for it.
I love the thought of shoving a water hose down a drownin' bear's throat.
The end.
Their culture is counter to virtually everything I stand for as a human being, and more importantly, their failure is my success as they are the direct competition. Only room enough for one of us.
Have plenty of family members who went their; they are all less than they would be without the experience, and I resent them for it.
I love the thought of shoving a water hose down a drownin' bear's throat.
The end.
We asked for it. We've run unprecedented smack since Mullen arrived. We knew the day was coming that we would eventually loose the egg bowl and OM would go ape **** about it.
So I sit back and take it. Don't respond much because that's what they want.
So I sit back and take it. Don't respond much because that's what they want.
yep..the rednecks who feel they're threatened by black people absolutely will identify with OM historically racist past and wear the OM crap that was originally purchased at Walmart and then handed down to them...second hand stuff. Most of the State fans (alumni) I know either graduated from State or at least attended. Of course there's always the general run of some who simply want to jump the bandwagon when things are looking good and they may pull for State one year and then OM the next. They don't add anything to the equation and don't spend any money...piss on them.
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I have to admit I've gotten embarrassed at myself
For getting so angry and hyped up about State ever since it became evident that our program is no longer dead. I have flipped **** on some people and my excitement for beating y'all is scary. But your excuse for all the childish things you did for three years was "it's good for the rivalry". I see a lot of you still embrace that and realize currently that the shoe is on the other foot. Those state fans simply reply to threads like this with "they got it for three years, let them enjoy it, we will take it to them after we win the egg in'13. But some of you are really bothered by OM's new interest in the rivalry.
As far as Facebook is concerned, I don't know what to tell you. People that fight about sports teams on Facebook are no better than the ones who comment in clarion ledger sports articles. You can't look at those types as actual people. But for those that get upset at having the egg bowl rubbed in your face by those idiots, you need to either except it or not support the childish antics of TSUN, gummy bearz, Our state etc. That garbage is what sparks the idiots. As I said earlier, I have been embarrassed at how much I've let this rivalry get to me this year, but Ive never let TSUN bother me just like I'm sure you don't take anyone serious that uses "leghumpers". What sparked me was the idea that your program was 4 years better than ours. That you actually believed this is your state and that will own the rivalry from now on. To those people I embarrassly rub 41-24 in your face. But if you want to stop the idiots on Facebook then stop with the things that bother idiots like nicknames and billboards. If you believe it's all good for the rivalry, then don't complain when the shoes on the other foot.
For getting so angry and hyped up about State ever since it became evident that our program is no longer dead. I have flipped **** on some people and my excitement for beating y'all is scary. But your excuse for all the childish things you did for three years was "it's good for the rivalry". I see a lot of you still embrace that and realize currently that the shoe is on the other foot. Those state fans simply reply to threads like this with "they got it for three years, let them enjoy it, we will take it to them after we win the egg in'13. But some of you are really bothered by OM's new interest in the rivalry.
As far as Facebook is concerned, I don't know what to tell you. People that fight about sports teams on Facebook are no better than the ones who comment in clarion ledger sports articles. You can't look at those types as actual people. But for those that get upset at having the egg bowl rubbed in your face by those idiots, you need to either except it or not support the childish antics of TSUN, gummy bearz, Our state etc. That garbage is what sparks the idiots. As I said earlier, I have been embarrassed at how much I've let this rivalry get to me this year, but Ive never let TSUN bother me just like I'm sure you don't take anyone serious that uses "leghumpers". What sparked me was the idea that your program was 4 years better than ours. That you actually believed this is your state and that will own the rivalry from now on. To those people I embarrassly rub 41-24 in your face. But if you want to stop the idiots on Facebook then stop with the things that bother idiots like nicknames and billboards. If you believe it's all good for the rivalry, then don't complain when the shoes on the other foot.
Yall certainly made is an awful experience. The good news is if we win in '13 it will stop on our end. It you win it will start all over and this time you can show the class that you believe OM fans are lacking
BS. Mullen may have talked smack, but I didn't. For three years, I made it a point to not run my mouth to the rebs that I see on a daily basis because there was no need. I ran no smack, sent no text messages, nothing. They sure don't return the favor in kind. 17 em.
and OM fans have to hear from fellow Mississippians that they are alcoholic racist who have never worked in their life unless you count BJ's for 8balls. You act like state fans don't use the stereotype card when this board uses Kluckers more than Rebels. You talk about how obsessed OM fans are when half the threads on this board daily are about OM. Good lord people
Can you not see the irony in what you say? If you weren't patrolling a MSU board all day, you wouldn't know there were ole miss threads. Damn y'all are dumb17s. How many SPS'ers are on Nafoom right now talking about MSU threads? No really, go count and don't return.
Maybe that's a bit extreme as far as records go. But a good example is Bianco, he hasn't gotten to Omaha but for a while he had Ole Miss baseball better than State. So he was a king. Now Cohen has gotten State back on top a lot of y'all want him gone. He's probably the best baseball catch y'all had in recent memory and many want him canned.
First of all, that's the most asinine pile of horseshit I've ever heard. Are there some at the school who fit both stereotypes? Absolutely. Are there some at MSU who fit both stereotypes? Absolutely. Are there some who fit both stereotypes at every 17ing school in the country? Probably not in the SWAC for the confederate flag toting, but for every other 17ing trait you brought up? Absolutely.
I'm an alumnus. I earned two degrees there. And frankly, I'm sick of being included in the broad sweep of the paintbrush SOME of y'all use to shape your view of us. I paid my way. I knew a lot of students and made a lot of friends who also paid their own way. In fact, most of the people I knew or came across received little if any help from their parents, and they covered a variety of colors, views and religions. And yes, a few even had tattoos. Ooooohhhh. Bit bigoted to judge someone for having a tattoo, btw, ain't it?
And the constant references to the confederate flag are getting old. Guess what? Went to high school with a future MSU alum who is the son of a sitting U.S. judge who fits into both categories. Wealthy family with a diddy'll take care of it attitude, and pictured with his father dressed as Robert E. Lee at an Old South party at MSU.
You 17ing hypocrite, y'all got 'em too. Should I judge an entire fanbase based on one person I know? No, because I'm a well-reasoned, rational human being who understands that every school has these types.
First off, for chrissakes, it's YOUR, not YOU'RE. I know spelling/grammar smack is weak, but if you don't know the difference, please don't butcher the English language.
You will not label me a racist ******* you 17ing **********. That's just like me labeling you a redneck because you ring a cowbell. You do realize, you're showing bigotry based solely on school affiliation by doing that, right? Just a touch of irony there. Tell you what, how about you be a realist and drop this false, sanctimonious horseshit that my school is all-white and a haven for all the racists, and yours has a perfect split of every known race and religion where no one is bigoted and everyone sings koom-bi-yah?
How do you know we're all racist ********? How much time have you spent around sidewalk fans or graduates of Ole Miss? Obviously you have us all pegged.
Tell you what, tell me what you're basing your opinion, your seething hatred on?
You see, that's the difference between you and I. Your hatred toward my school is so intense that you have no qualms labeling several 100,000 people based on interactions with a few or even just your perception. I don't like MSU, but I know many people and have many friends who went to MSU, and respect the institution itself. Hell, I was there for the Auburn game in 2005 (I think) and had a blast at Bulldog Bash. It was so cool to me to see thousands of people of all different backgrounds mingling together in a social setting such as that. Even found myself thinking I might have had a great time had I attended MSU, and I had a great time at Ole Miss.
And I know how you're going to twist that statement. "Yeah, you never saw that at Ole Miss." You're right if you're talking about an event other than a sports contest that that many students got involved with and participated in. Oh wait, I forgot about Double Decker, which features just as wide a spectrum of participants.
But I'm a racist. Well, actually, I'm sorry, I misspoke. I'm an evolved human being with opposable thumbs, and you're a 17ing narrow-minded, waste of flesh and bone, bonafide douchebag. Not because you're a ********** and/or an MSU fan and/or alum, but because you choose to follow your hatred rather than your common sense.
You are right about one thing. We didn't continue building. The first downfall was that the football team didn't integrate until well after the school did. The second is that we absolutely did nothing facilities-wise for far too long. The third was that we had a long streak of horrendous GOB leadership.
We're changing that. Built a new baseball field a few years ago. About to expand Vaught-Hemingway to 70,000+ and build a new basketball arena. I (and most of us) don't feel we belong with those teams in football. Baseball and basketball may be a different story. That said, a year after 2-10, we gave LSU all it could handle. We were an inch away from beating the team that did beat Bama. Hey, South Carolina seems to belong with Georgia (their transition didn't happen overnight) and save for a turnover and utterly blowing two plays in the first half, we lead them 17-0 or 21-0 at the half and its a different ball game.
Today, we seem to have a pretty good AD and a pretty good coach. How will both pan out? Only time will tell.
The point I'm making is, no we don't belong with them right now, and most of us realize that. Y'all are on a mission to improve, whatever that means, and mockingus because we aspire to reach the level of those elite teams.
1. What's wrong with aspiring to that level? That's excellence, that's success. Every team should aspire to that.
2. If y'all are on a mission to improve, I would assume you're trying to improve to the same level. If not, what's the 17ing point?
Rome wasn't built in a day. Meanwhile, if I'm understanding your bolded quote correctly, you have accepted that y'all never will. And that's just sad.
Now I apologize if I misunderstood, and if that was your own little snide way of saying we're stuck in the muck and y'all are shooting for the stars, let me remind you of one more quote:
If you think we can't aspire to higher levels because of those disadvantages and MSU can, guess what. You face the exact same disadvantages. We're both in the same predicament.
The difference is, y'all focus the majority of your effort and pride on the state of Mississippi and and getting as many players from this state as possible. We want the best players in this state too, but are recruiting a wider base. Which approach will work? Which school has the better coach and AD? Can either school climb out of mediocrity and get to the upper echelon?
The answer is, simply, only time will tell.
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Come on, bro. If you're going to mock someone's typing, you can't **** up the next sentence.
Otherwise, good post.
Well said, but the very people you are speaking to won't hear, listen, or understand. They'll simply chalk that up to your egotistical, slanted, racist bear-rootin' views.
They live to hate as if it is the life sustaining air they breathe. They hate for no other fact than that is what they can do. Maybe they are not good at anything else.
They live to hate as if it is the life sustaining air they breathe. They hate for no other fact than that is what they can do. Maybe they are not good at anything else.
Did my own research
Mississippi State's Bagley College of Engineering does, indeed, garner more research dollars than the University of Mississippi's School of Engineering.
However, you should do a little bit more research before posting incredulous statements like this.
1. I'm not sure that the number of buildings a school has is a measure of the value of that school. Regardless, the University of Mississippi's School of Engineering is housed in five (5) buildings on campus: Carrier Hall, Anderson Hall, Brevard Hall, the Engineering Science Building and the Center for Manufacturing Excellence. Labs are also housed in building off campus.
2. A good source for determining how many research dollars a paticular university of college garners would be The Center for Measuring University Performance at the Arizona State University. Their latest publication, "The Top American Research Universities, 2010 Annual Report," gives good information and data on this subject.
In 2009, Mississippi State University had a total of $211 Million in research dollars from all sources; ranking it 82nd in the country among all universites and 57th among public institutions. Of that $211 Million, 28% of it went to the College of Engineering. This is approximately $59 Million - spread among 8 different departments in the College.
By contrast, the University of Mississippi (Oxford campus only) had a total of $42 Million in research dollars; ranking it 182nd in the country among all universities and 133rd among public institutions. This does not include the $48 Million in research gathered that year by the UMMC in Jackson.
Thus, I would conclude that your statement that, "any ONE of "our" departments does more funded research than virtually "their" entire university" to be completely false.
Mississippi State's Bagley College of Engineering does, indeed, garner more research dollars than the University of Mississippi's School of Engineering.
However, you should do a little bit more research before posting incredulous statements like this.
1. I'm not sure that the number of buildings a school has is a measure of the value of that school. Regardless, the University of Mississippi's School of Engineering is housed in five (5) buildings on campus: Carrier Hall, Anderson Hall, Brevard Hall, the Engineering Science Building and the Center for Manufacturing Excellence. Labs are also housed in building off campus.
2. A good source for determining how many research dollars a paticular university of college garners would be The Center for Measuring University Performance at the Arizona State University. Their latest publication, "The Top American Research Universities, 2010 Annual Report," gives good information and data on this subject.
In 2009, Mississippi State University had a total of $211 Million in research dollars from all sources; ranking it 82nd in the country among all universites and 57th among public institutions. Of that $211 Million, 28% of it went to the College of Engineering. This is approximately $59 Million - spread among 8 different departments in the College.
By contrast, the University of Mississippi (Oxford campus only) had a total of $42 Million in research dollars; ranking it 182nd in the country among all universities and 133rd among public institutions. This does not include the $48 Million in research gathered that year by the UMMC in Jackson.
Thus, I would conclude that your statement that, "any ONE of "our" departments does more funded research than virtually "their" entire university" to be completely false.
So, in this longwinded rebuttal to a statement that was obvious hyperbole - made to offset a previous post implying that the OM engineering school was competitive with/superior to Mississippi State, you concluded that Mississippi State's Bagley College of Engineering does, in fact, make significantly more money in research funding than the entire University of Mississippi?
Thanks for clearing that up for us**
Thanks for clearing that up for us**
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