James Kenan @ ED

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Let me just say this now... the James Kenan coaching staff has ZERO class. I have never seen LAW ENFORCEMENT called on the field because of a unruly coach. And then he calls our head coach onto the field in a taunting manner...that is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable.
Not only that but the game was held up 10-15 mins, their coach was taunting, hollering at officials. Even though DC tiger claims we get all the calls, their CLASSLESS, RUDE coach was not even penalized when he should have been Ejected!!!! In all my years following high school sports all over the East I have never seen an incident where the Cops were brought onto the field. Jk should suspend this coach for his actions, what an example he is for the kids. SMDH
 
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Not only that but the game was held up 10-15 mins, their coach was taunting, hollering at officials. Even though DC tiger claims we get all the calls, their CLASSLESS, RUDE coach was not even penalized when he should have been Ejected!!!! In all my years following high school sports all over the East I have never seen an incident where the Cops were brought onto the field. Jk should suspend this coach for his actions, what an example he is for the kids. SMDH
Which coach are you referring to?
 

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Which coach are you referring to?
Does it matter what coach it was or what the situation was? No. The fact that law enforcement was called out because of a JK coach should be an ejection. There wasn’t even a unsportsmanlike penalty assessed.
 
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Does it matter what coach it was or what the situation was? No. The fact that law enforcement was called out because of a JK coach should be an ejection. There wasn’t even a unsportsmanlike penalty assessed.
Can’t really comment further on the situation considering I didn’t see it .
 

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What happened with the JK coach?
I’ve heard multiple rumors of the reason the coach got upset...but he was out on the field, in the refs face pointing fingers. Law enforcement was brought on the field to pull him back. Then, he came out to midfield, point at the ED head coach and motioned him out to midfield while taking an “aggressive stance”. Once again, he was escorted to the sidelines. This whole escapade took about 15 minutes all for the refs to blow it off. No ejections, no penalties. Like it never even happened.

I personally hate it for those kids. That coach is not a role model. Classless.
 

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Jk staff had the complete right to be upset. The cops did not have to go out on the field, no reason for that. If anyone understood the call they would understand the reason for the staff being upset. Flag was called on the field after the play had finished and the offense set up to run the next play. Officials meet throw a flag after the play has finished. Chains have moved and been set up for the next set of downs. Refs do not know the previous spot of the ball. No way to tell. ED staff pulls out iPad shows ref where the previous spot was. And refs move chains and ball back then mark off penalty. Instant replay is not allowed in N.C. high school football no matter what circumstances. So first of all the call was a whole minute after the play ended and then the refs made a move based off instant replay which they cannot use and do tell me what is wrong with a coach getting upset with that? Cops did not have to be on the field everything was fine.
 

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JK community support is non-existent outside of a few. Coaches are having to take a stand for their players when no one else will in down years. Don’t bash the coaches for standing up for kids who no one else will stand up for.
 
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Everything was not fine. You’re saying your “coach” didn’t come on the field and taunt the ED coach at midfield? Get real man. No matter the call or mistake, that is absolutely uncalled for.
 

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JK community support is non-existent outside of a few. Coaches are having to take a stand for their players when no one else will in down years. Don’t bash the coaches for standing up for kids who no one else will stand up for.
Bash them for their lack of self control...you know the stuff they are supposed to be teaching the kids...
 

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JK community support is non-existent outside of a few. Coaches are having to take a stand for their players when no one else will in down years. Don’t bash the coaches for standing up for kids who no one else will stand up for.
Law enforcement was out there because your coach could not control himself. They gauge when they need to be out there and I completely agree with them going out there with your irate coach. The same “coach” who is supposed to be teaching the kids values. #Classless
 

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Jk will be looking another staff in the future anyway. Clark probably won’t stick around very long.
 
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With those actions I certainly hope so! I don't understand how he wasn't penalized or ejected for his actions. Are those actions condoned by Jk, just asking.
 
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Jk coach was not taunting the other coach. He was telling the other coach what he was arguing but you can say what you want. Clark and battle never have had problems.
 

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Jk coach was not taunting the other coach. He was telling the other coach what he was arguing but you can say what you want. Clark and battle never have had problems.
So that was your “new” head coach? Wow. Hate it for the program and the community.
 

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Jk coach was not taunting the other coach. He was telling the other coach what he was arguing but you can say what you want. Clark and battle never have had problems.
Yeah ok. And, why was nothing ever said over the loud speaker as to what the deal was. Call it what you want JKs coach was out of control and way outta line.
 
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Jk coach was not taunting the other coach. He was telling the other coach what he was arguing but you can say what you want. Clark and battle never have had problems.
And I will say what I want, I was there and saw it myself. Don’t try to play it down now that your HC can’t control himself.
 

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Stop speaking on something that you have no clue about. Clark was calling Battle on the field to confirm that the refs could not move the chains back. It was 3rd down, and JK passed the ball, which hit a lineman helmet, and caught by a JK player for a first down. The sticks were move, and JK was lined up ready to run the next play. Then the refs threw a flag. That's where the problem started. The cops was not called, they saw Clark arguing with the officials and they walked over, they were not called. These same officials had similar problems at New Bern last week. No ejections were made because the officials knew Clark was right. So please stop assuming, and speaking bad about Clark, because he did exactly what any other coach would have done. And if you say different, then you have no clue about standing up for your kids.
 
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Stop speaking on something that you have no clue about. Clark was calling Battle on the field to confirm that the refs could not move the chains back. It was 3rd down, and JK passed the ball, which hit a lineman helmet, and caught by a JK player for a first down. The sticks were move, and JK was lined up ready to run the next play. Then the refs threw a flag. That's where the problem started. The cops was not called, they saw Clark arguing with the officials and they walked over, they were not called. These same officials had similar problems at New Bern last week. No ejections were made because the officials knew Clark was right. So please stop assuming, and speaking bad about Clark, because he did exactly what any other coach would have done. And if you say different, then you have no clue about standing up for your kids.
Your opinion versus mine. I know a tad bit more than you think about this incident. If you think the character your coach portrayed last night is a “model” coach, good luck. A classless, loose cannon won’t get you much further than you’ve been the last few years.

There’s a way to portray yourself without disgracing yourself and the name on your shirt/jersey. Last night’s display of actions isn’t it.
 

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Stop speaking on something that you have no clue about. Clark was calling Battle on the field to confirm that the refs could not move the chains back. It was 3rd down, and JK passed the ball, which hit a lineman helmet, and caught by a JK player for a first down. The sticks were move, and JK was lined up ready to run the next play. Then the refs threw a flag. That's where the problem started. The cops was not called, they saw Clark arguing with the officials and they walked over, they were not called. These same officials had similar problems at New Bern last week. No ejections were made because the officials knew Clark was right. So please stop assuming, and speaking bad about Clark, because he did exactly what any other coach would have done. And if you say different, then you have no clue about standing up for your kids.
But I guess you know more than the rest of us.
 
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Your opinion versus mine. I know a tad bit more than you think about this incident. If you think the character your coach portrayed last night is a “model” coach, good luck. A classless, loose cannon won’t get you much further than you’ve been the last few years.

There’s a way to portray yourself without disgracing yourself and the name on your shirt/jersey. Last night’s display of actions isn’t it.
It's not an opinion, it's exactly what happened. If you know more than what I do, then you would've known exactly what happened. Dude stop it, like I said, he did what any other coach would have done. Everyone knows how the officiating is when you're playing at ED. He's not the first coach to have arguments with officials, and he won't be the last. JK is still in rebuilding mode, it has absolutely nothing to do with him standing up for his team, trying to win a road conference game last night. And the same classless, loose cannon was conference coach of the year last season. Smh, but you know "a tad bit more" stop the nonsense.
 

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It's not an opinion, it's exactly what happened. If you know more than what I do, then you would've known exactly what happened. Dude stop it, like I said, he did what any other coach would have done. Everyone knows how the officiating is when you're playing at ED. He's not the first coach to have arguments with officials, and he won't be the last. JK is still in rebuilding mode, it has absolutely nothing to do with him standing up for his team, trying to win a road conference game last night. And the same classless, loose cannon was conference coach of the year last season. Smh, but you know "a tad bit more" stop the nonsense.
You didn’t have any problems with the officiating flag wise Friday night. We took way more penalties than JK did. And I won’t stop, because it was wrong and nothing was done about it. As long as you keep defend him with piss poor excuses, you’ll be part of the problem. No matter the situation, his overreacting was unwarranted. How many times have you seen law enforcement on the field... for what you call “no reason”? That’s a joke. If that’s how you want your coach to portray himself, I’m sure glad y’all got him and not ED.
 

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It's not an opinion, it's exactly what happened. If you know more than what I do, then you would've known exactly what happened. Dude stop it, like I said, he did what any other coach would have done. Everyone knows how the officiating is when you're playing at ED. He's not the first coach to have arguments with officials, and he won't be the last. JK is still in rebuilding mode, it has absolutely nothing to do with him standing up for his team, trying to win a road conference game last night. And the same classless, loose cannon was conference coach of the year last season. Smh, but you know "a tad bit more" stop the nonsense.
And I never claimed to know more than you “Mr All Knowing”. I said I knew more than you thought I did...stop skimming so fast and actually read the posts.
 
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Yeah it hit JK's center and bounced in the air. But Clark wasn't arguing that, he was arguing them going to look at video to reset the chains.
So we can agree it should have been a penalty for illegal touching and should have resulted in a five yard penalty from the original line of scrimmage, replay the down, correct?

Spoke with someone today at the rec football games where I was watching a family member play who was very close to the events. He said that the official on the JK sideline moved the chain crew in error and it appeared to him that the JK staff knew they needed to get a play off quickly because they knew it was a penalty. The way he made it sound that was the only time the entire game the Tigers used that type of offense meaning to go no huddle and line up over the ball. This all happened when the white hat was having a conference with two other officials at which time they dropped the flag and enforced the penalty. The guy I spoke with said the Ipad was never used and that the referees used the information still on the scoreboard that showed where the ball was originally set. Again, I wasn't there so I do not know.

As far as the deputies, I was told there was someone on the JK sideline causing a fuss yelling at the refs and acting up during all this and they simply came out to get between him and the officials. If I remember correctly, the same type thing happened last year at a JK game when a fan ran out on the field. Based on what I was told, this was not a coach but a players dad or something. There was never a confrontation between Coach Clark and Coach Holley nor the threat of one.

Again, I was in Spiveys Corner so I don't know, but my source was very close to what was going on so take it for what its worth.
 

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Oh yes, I too believe ED got penalized more than did Jk. All you jk fans, especially dctiger, always say we have our own refs, I believe these came from Warsaw.
 

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So we can agree it should have been a penalty for illegal touching and should have resulted in a five yard penalty from the original line of scrimmage, replay the down, correct?

Spoke with someone today at the rec football games where I was watching a family member play who was very close to the events. He said that the official on the JK sideline moved the chain crew in error and it appeared to him that the JK staff knew they needed to get a play off quickly because they knew it was a penalty. The way he made it sound that was the only time the entire game the Tigers used that type of offense meaning to go no huddle and line up over the ball. This all happened when the white hat was having a conference with two other officials at which time they dropped the flag and enforced the penalty. The guy I spoke with said the Ipad was never used and that the referees used the information still on the scoreboard that showed where the ball was originally set. Again, I wasn't there so I do not know.

As far as the deputies, I was told there was someone on the JK sideline causing a fuss yelling at the refs and acting up during all this and they simply came out to get between him and the officials. If I remember correctly, the same type thing happened last year at a JK game when a fan ran out on the field. Based on what I was told, this was not a coach but a players dad or something. There was never a confrontation between Coach Clark and Coach Holley nor the threat of one.

Again, I was in Spiveys Corner so I don't know, but my source was very close to what was going on so take it for what its worth.
Whether it was Clark or not, I’m not sure. But a JK staff member walked halfway across the field and motioned at Holley to come out in a aggressive manner. Holley took 3 steps, pointed at the scoreboard, and stepped back to the sidelines.
 

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Whether it was Clark or not, I’m not sure. But a JK staff member walked halfway across the field and motioned at Holley to come out in a aggressive manner. Holley took 3 steps, pointed at the scoreboard, and stepped back to the sidelines.
All I can tell you is the person I spoke with said there was never a confrontation between the coaches or the staffs. The deputies did not come on the scene because of any actions of the JK staff but by someone else on the sideline that did not appear to be a coach. He was cussing and causing a scene. Home teams are responsible for the officials safety and someone probably associated with ED asked that they get involved at the officials request.

I thought the job of the officials is to get the call correct? Kudos to the officials that got together, discussed what happened and correctly enforced the penalty.
 

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So we can agree it should have been a penalty for illegal touching and should have resulted in a five yard penalty from the original line of scrimmage, replay the down, correct?

Spoke with someone today at the rec football games where I was watching a family member play who was very close to the events. He said that the official on the JK sideline moved the chain crew in error and it appeared to him that the JK staff knew they needed to get a play off quickly because they knew it was a penalty. The way he made it sound that was the only time the entire game the Tigers used that type of offense meaning to go no huddle and line up over the ball. This all happened when the white hat was having a conference with two other officials at which time they dropped the flag and enforced the penalty. The guy I spoke with said the Ipad was never used and that the referees used the information still on the scoreboard that showed where the ball was originally set. Again, I wasn't there so I do not know.

As far as the deputies, I was told there was someone on the JK sideline causing a fuss yelling at the refs and acting up during all this and they simply came out to get between him and the officials. If I remember correctly, the same type thing happened last year at a JK game when a fan ran out on the field. Based on what I was told, this was not a coach but a players dad or something. There was never a confrontation between Coach Clark and Coach Holley nor the threat of one.

Again, I was in Spiveys Corner so I don't know, but my source was very close to what was going on so take it for what its worth.
The chains were not moved in error, the white hat signaled first down. The officials did ask to see a video, I think it was ED's AD that they asked. The fan that ran onto the field last year at S. Johnson is deaf. He has family that plays for JK, and when he see commotion like that taking place on the field, he reacts to protect his family. Yes JK went hurry up cause the officiating was terrible.
 
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Whether it was Clark or not, I’m not sure. But a JK staff member walked halfway across the field and motioned at Holley to come out in a aggressive manner. Holley took 3 steps, pointed at the scoreboard, and stepped back to the sidelines.
I told you that Clark was calling Battle over to confirm that the officials could not move the chains back after they were moved.
 
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