Jamont Dropping the Bomb on Stans

[ArcherSPS]

Thankfully that 17er isn't our coach anymore..
Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
Im thankful that Stans recruited me but IMO i dont think the players feared him. Great recruiter but I think players respected other coaches

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
Some players scared 2 say it but Im not! Players have a lot of animosity towards Stans and the program because when you leave.... THATS IT

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
They felt like when they graduated and left the program. Stans and the programs didn't try to help them with their professional careers

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
They feel like when u leave State that's it... They wont try to help u. Thats why a lot of former players dont & wont come back to support

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
Even I felt that way at one point in time! I Thought about coming back for my Sr yr but Stans told me he felt like I should go

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
Stans told me he felt I should leave because he felt like he couldn't coach me anymore and he wanted a fresh start and roll with Dee Bost

 

[esplanade91]

Love Jamont. He lost me at Croom though.

 

[Philly Dawg]

There are probably some pieces of truth in this, but statements like this are always revisionist and self serving. Does anyone really believe that Jamont didn't want to go pro?

At the time, Jamont sent his name to the scouts for evaluation and publicly described Stansbury as being in agreement that he would be drafted and as being supportive.

 

[57stratdawg]

Being an NBA player is extremely difficult due to roster sizes. There just aren't that many of them. I never really felt like we had GREAT NBA prospects under Stans.

Moultire has an NBA skill set and size. Lawrence Roberts did, but not the size.

 

[missouridawg]

There are probably some pieces of truth in this, but statements like this are always revisionist and self serving. Does anyone really believe that Jamont didn't want to go pro?

At the time, Jamont sent his name to the scouts for evaluation and publicly described Stansbury as being in agreement that he would be drafted and as being supportive.

With all the "I'm better off over seas" stuff, to me, it was clear that he is grinding his ax and still mad about not being good enough to play pro ball. Love Jamont, but he's being a little ***** here.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

At this stage it's hard for me to give a rats ***

Heck, we are two years down the road.

And Stan's don't coach there any more.

 

[121Josey]

No shockers here. Correct me if I'm wrong about this, but a player is paying his agent to help him find work.

 

[Wicked Pissah]

Jamont is being a *****. Biting the hand that fed him.

You are a ****** 3 guard that was allowed to do what you wanted in college to even be paid to play in europe.

If you were good enough for the league, you would be in it

 

[esplanade91]

Jamont is one of the all time MSU greats, and he's one of the only players to recognize MSU and go as far to be a good fan of all of our sports this many years later.

He has the right to an opinion, and considering he was there in the middle of it for 3 years he obviously knows more than any of us on here claim to.

If you want to disagree with him, do so. But don't get mad that yet another player comes out against ya boy Stands.

I definitely agree he's full of **** on the NBA thing though. He seems to be making a killing in Europe, so I'll at least give him that.

 

[DerHntr]

Why now? I could maybe understand if he did this right after Stans was let go. Waiting two years makes no sense and makes me question his motive.

Maybe I am taking it out of context. Was he directly asked about Stans or was this out of the blue?

 

[rabiddawg]

Maybe Jay Jacobs tweeted at him...

 

[ReadyReady]

This. Who giveth a shiht?

 

[was21]

Damn, those grapes are sour

 

[coach66]

There appears to be an orchestrated effort

By several ex players to prop up Ray and that's fine. With that said if he doesn't figure out the recruiting game it will end soon and badly. The only thing I don't like about rick ray is he drinks southern comfort, damn!

 

[Machiavelli]

By several ex players to prop up Ray and that's fine. With that said if he doesn't figure out the recruiting game it will end soon and badly. The only thing I don't like about rick ray is he drinks southern comfort, damn!

Yep.. Black players trying to prop up Croom, Joker, Grant, et. al. Failed experiments

 

[ReadyReady]

"Black players?" In college basketball? If Wesley Morgan came out with this, that would make a difference to you?

It is what it is - a former player pissed about a former coach. Let it go, man.

 

[seb304]

Pretty sure Bart Hyche isn't a "black player"

nt

 

[cytubb]

It George Bush fault.

Thankfully that 17er isn't our coach anymore..
Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
Im thankful that Stans recruited me but IMO i dont think the players feared him. Great recruiter but I think players respected other coaches

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
Some players scared 2 say it but Im not! Players have a lot of animosity towards Stans and the program because when you leave.... THATS IT

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
They felt like when they graduated and left the program. Stans and the programs didn't try to help them with their professional careers

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
They feel like when u leave State that's it... They wont try to help u. Thats why a lot of former players dont & wont come back to support

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
Even I felt that way at one point in time! I Thought about coming back for my Sr yr but Stans told me he felt like I should go

Jamont Gordon
@CashMoneyJG44
Stans told me he felt I should leave because he felt like he couldn't coach me anymore and he wanted a fresh start and roll with Dee Bost

Quit bitching and Just Win

 

[drt7891]

Um... Wut?

 

[bonedaddy401]

We were damn lucky to have him and Chuck. Jamont made Miss State Basketball while he was here. Just look at what happened when he left. I couldn't agree with more and I'm glad he is telling it like it is. I hope he keeps throwing dirt on Stans grave, its about time everyone realize what he was and wasn't.

Keep preaching Jamont, the idiots need to be educated.

 

[Jackdragbean]

I was told last night that 13 wins overall and 2 SEC wins with ****** players is better than going one and out in the tourney with great players. If true, Ray is definitely our man.

 

[Hanmudog]

I was told last night that 13 wins overall and 2 SEC wins with ****** players is better than going one and out in the tourney with great players. If true, Ray is definitely our man.

Sadly I think there are people out there that believe this. Personally I liked having a little suspense over getting a Tournament bid that lasted into March rather than ending in January.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

I was told last night that 13 wins overall and 2 SEC wins with ****** players is better than going one and out in the tourney with great players. If true, Ray is definitely our man.

Sadly I think there are people out there that believe this. Personally I liked having a little suspense over getting a Tournament bid that lasted into March rather than ending in January.

Well if those people exist then they are stupid. No one likes having a terrible team. It really does seem that some of the Stans lovers are positively giddy at being able to point at our record over the last two years. That's almost as bad as those who called for him to be fired the last 2-4 years of his tenure.

 

[dogfan96]

I was told last night that 13 wins overall and 2 SEC wins with ****** players is better than going one and out in the tourney with great players. If true, Ray is definitely our man.

It's definitely not better, but the latter is no great accomplishment other than having a banner to hang. The SEC is to basketball what C-USA is to football. Thoroughly mediocre.. mediocre may even be too strong of a word.

 

[dawgstudent]

Completely disagree. You have more of an argument with Hanmu's point where you flirted with the NCAA but didn't make it.

NCAA Tourney appearances are something to be proud of.

 

[AHSDawg]

Nothing against you, D@A, but if you don't think people were giddy at Stans' losing, you are in denial. There were TONS of those people on here. They let their bitching and hate of Stans fully corrupt them to wanting themselves to be 'right' more than MSU winning. And forgive some of the people who knew better what our situation would be like post Stans and didn't want to see MSU basketball become a joke again.

Well if those people exist then they are stupid. No one likes having a terrible team.

 

[rabiddawg]

SoCo and Diet Coke is my football game drink of choice!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[coach66]

Do you put a cherry in it*

True story, I was introduced to SOCO as a junior in high school at Scott Field in 95 degree heat. It was delicious and I drank it as fast as I would my beloved Miller Ponies from that era. Needless to say it did not end well and I've been hatin on SOCO since. Maybe I should give it another shot.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Nothing against you, D@A, but if you don't think people were giddy at Stans' losing, you are in denial. There were TONS of those people on here. They let their bitching and hate of Stans fully corrupt them to wanting themselves to be 'right' more than MSU winning. And forgive some of the people who knew better what our situation would be like post Stans and didn't want to see MSU basketball become a joke again.

Didn't say the don't exist. I said they are stupid if they like losing more than winning no matter what losing comes too. The only exception to that is losing Croom's last Egg Bowl so the firing could be accelerated. And I would still have liked to have won that Egg Bowl.....and then fired Croom.

 

[patdog]

Anyone who says that barely missing the NIT is the same as the hellhole we've been in the last 2 years is an idiot. Neither is what you aim for, but otherwise there's just no comparison between the two.

 

[patdog]

The SEC is to basketball what C-USA is to football.

SEC basketball sucks, but let's not get carried away with it. How many CUSA football teams have been ranked in the top 10 the last 4-5 years? How many SEC basketball teams?

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Sadly I think there are people out there that believe this. Personally I liked having a little suspense over getting a Tournament bid that lasted into March rather than ending in January.

My son mentioned the same thing when the Selection Show was on last night, but now we have to face a few facts.

Stans is gone. Probably should have been gone when Clemson tried to get him, but it still doesn't matter because he is gone period. Our expectations of his tenure are over too.

Ray is evidently getting more time. Whatever the circumstances, he will have to show some improvement next season and a glimmer of bringing in people who can contribute. You can say he has had limited time to recruit, but I still think any coach worth his salt would have found some talent to help out.

The days of us waiting for the Selection Show to see if we have made it or where we are seeded are over for some time. It isn't a bash against Ray personally or his ability. It is just fact.

 

[AHSDawg]

Agree completely. However, we have a LOT of stupid fans...

They show themselves here at lot! Not as much now that ED has 'saved' the day!!!

 

[FirstPoetsThenSunDoggy]

Yep.. Black players trying to prop up Croom, Joker, Grant, et. al. Failed experiments

Classic "who me?" racism.

 

[FirstPoetsThenSunDoggy]

Jamont was an excellent player, but I think we would have done better if he hadn't tried to be a one-man show. I do think Stans lost a little control of the team while Jamont was our floor leader. It was one of my least favorite times for MSU basketball. It felt like he would not pass the ball. I don't see him as an all-time great. I also disagree with the posts that he is "one of the few" former athletes who support MSU athletics. I think the majority are passionate Bulldogs. As for "that's it" when you're out of school. That's supposed to be "it" because coaches and teachers have to devote their attention to the current players and students. Of course, former players and students should get support from the ex coach or the ex teacher, recommendations and such, but the time comes to move on. That's it.

 

[FirstPoetsThenSunDoggy]

We were damn lucky to have him and Chuck. Jamont made Miss State Basketball while he was here. Just look at what happened when he left. I couldn't agree with more and I'm glad he is telling it like it is. I hope he keeps throwing dirt on Stans grave, its about time everyone realize what he was and wasn't.

Keep preaching Jamont, the idiots need to be educated.

Maybe we should just wipe Stans's tenure off the books. Would that be better? Or just toss another shovel of dirt on the grave periodically? How do we handle this? You better finish telling us who he was and wasn't before we make another mistake. I know the details of that will be blockbusters.

 

[Bamboo.sixpack]

Loved having him here **

My son and I still yell "JG for 3" when we play basketball. The JG is taking a shot, keeping the hand in the air while walking backwards. The finish is typically an air ball or bad miss.

Good times.

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We were damn lucky to have him and Chuck. Jamont made Miss State Basketball while he was here. Just look at what happened when he left. I couldn't agree with more and I'm glad he is telling it like it is. I hope he keeps throwing dirt on Stans grave, its about time everyone realize what he was and wasn't.

Keep preaching Jamont, the idiots need to be educated.

 

[E-Man]

Jamont was an excellent player, but I think we would have done better if he hadn't tried to be a one-man show. I do think Stans lost a little control of the team while Jamont was our floor leader. It was one of my least favorite times for MSU basketball. It felt like he would not pass the ball. I don't see him as an all-time great. I also disagree with the posts that he is "one of the few" former athletes who support MSU athletics. I think the majority are passionate Bulldogs. As for "that's it" when you're out of school. That's supposed to be "it" because coaches and teachers have to devote their attention to the current players and students. Of course, former players and students should get support from the ex coach or the ex teacher, recommendations and such, but the time comes to move on. That's it.

We don't need unanimous first team All-SEC players on our team that average 17, 7, and 5! Those aren't the stats of a great player! **

If someone doesn't play ball in a way that benefits the team, bench them. Your complaints should be on the coach, not the player for those comments.

 

[Philly Dawg]

What Stans was: MSU's most successful basketball coach. What Stans wasn't: good at public relations.

 

[idog]

this is where it ended

Sadly I think there are people out there that believe this. Personally I liked having a little suspense over getting a Tournament bid that lasted into March rather than ending in January.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-state-bulldogs-coach-rick-stansbury-retiring

11 post season appearances out of 14 years. 6 NCAA's and 5 NIT's. only one sub .500 year in '99/00.

Ray is 0 for 2 and sub .500 in back to back years. but maybe he'll go on a 11 for 12 year run...**