Jason Whitlock figured out Alabama's problem.

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mstateglfr

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Why did you relate sexuality to the painted fingernails? I certainly didn't say anything about it. I just commented that I would not let anyone, not even my daughters, paint my fingernails.
Because Whitlock related sexuality to painted fingernails.
2:35 to 3:05 - he says Bama's best player is an 'Alphabet solider' and cites painted fingernails as evidence.

Again, I stopped watching at 3:05 because what I had seen up to then was too dumb for me to want to continue. If Whitlock closes the commentary out with 'jk!', then cool I retract my comments. I am guessing he doesnt do that though.
 
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Actually, I never saw anyone jump on the " q ueer hate train". Who exactly in this thread are you talking about? No sarcastericks. I genuinely want to know.
I used that term to just group together initial responses that either seemed to agree with Whitlock or joked about his comments rather than rejecting them.
It was just a few before I responded- a clapping in approval gif, a 'be all you can be' response, and I think one other. Those things are disappointing to see.
 
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Because Whitlock related sexuality to painted fingernails.
2:35 to 3:05 - he says Bama's best player is an 'Alphabet solider' and cites painted fingernails as evidence.

Again, I stopped watching at 3:05 because what I had seen up to then was too dumb for me to want to continue. If Whitlock closes the commentary out with 'jk!', then cool I retract my comments. I am guessing he doesnt do that though.
OK. I was thinking that it had something to do with my response.
 

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I used that term to just group together initial responses that either seemed to agree with Whitlock or joked about his comments rather than rejecting them.
It was just a few before I responded- a clapping in approval gif, a 'be all you can be' response, and I think one other. Those things are disappointing to see.
For the record, do you think I agreed?

As a reminder, all I said was I never let anyone paint my fingernails.

Just as you said it's monumentally stupid to equate painted fingernails to sexuality, it's monumentally stupid to equate not wanting your fingernails painted to being on the qu eer hate train.
 

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For the record, do you think I agreed?

As a reminder, all I said was I never let anyone paint my fingernails.

Just as you said it's monumentally stupid to equate painted fingernails to sexuality, it's monumentally stupid to equate not wanting your fingernails painted to being on the qu eer hate train.
I didnt think your initial post agreed with Whitlock or disagreed with Whitlock. I also didn't think you support qùeer hate just because you don't want painted fingernails.

Seeing this post as a follow up, I think you disagreed with Whitlock.
 
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Cool. I also have 2 daughters and mine have been painted because I recognize my sexuality is not tied to my fingernails.

It's been a decade, but they've definitely been painted multiple times.
I've also had bows and butterfly clips put in my hair.
Oh the horror!**
You know, this checks out!
 
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This looks like the post to ask this question.

Why are almost all the actors in HIV commercials gay or trans if it isn't a disease that mostly affects those lifestyle choices?

I admit they might have a token straight guy, just to be inclusive.
 
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This looks like the post to ask this question.

Why are almost all the actors in HIV commercials gay or trans if it isn't a disease that mostly affects those lifestyle choices?

I admit they might have a token straight guy, just to be inclusive.
3 comments...

- The hiv medication commercials I have noticed will typically have 5 to 8 people, a mix of single people and couples, and some are gay while others arent(based on the presenting genders).

- I was unaware that hiv doesn't predominantly impact the gay community in the US. It has been presented to me since the early 90s as a virus/disease that highly impacts the gay community. To my knowledge, it is well known to predominantly impact the gay community in the US.

- Calling one's sexuality a 'choice' is pretty lame. While sexuality, gender, and sexual preference can be fluid or exist on a spectrum, claiming these things are choices is cheap and typically said by people who aren't genuinely interested in learning more. It is typically used by people who actively push back against homosexuality.

I never made a choice to be attracted to women. Given that, why would I think some other guy made a choice to be attracted to guys?
 

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3 comments...

- The hiv medication commercials I have noticed will typically have 5 to 8 people, a mix of single people and couples, and some are gay while others arent(based on the presenting genders).

- I was unaware that hiv doesn't predominantly impact the gay community in the US. It has been presented to me since the early 90s as a virus/disease that highly impacts the gay community. To my knowledge, it is well known to predominantly impact the gay community in the US.

- Calling one's sexuality a 'choice' is pretty lame. While sexuality, gender, and sexual preference can be fluid or exist on a spectrum, claiming these things are choices is cheap and typically said by people who aren't genuinely interested in learning more. It is typically used by people who actively push back against homosexuality.

I never made a choice to be attracted to women. Given that, why would I think some other guy made a choice to be attracted to guys?
Michael Jordan Lol GIF by ESPN
 

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3 comments...

- The hiv medication commercials I have noticed will typically have 5 to 8 people, a mix of single people and couples, and some are gay while others arent(based on the presenting genders).

- I was unaware that hiv doesn't predominantly impact the gay community in the US. It has been presented to me since the early 90s as a virus/disease that highly impacts the gay community. To my knowledge, it is well known to predominantly impact the gay community in the US.

- Calling one's sexuality a 'choice' is pretty lame. While sexuality, gender, and sexual preference can be fluid or exist on a spectrum, claiming these things are choices is cheap and typically said by people who aren't genuinely interested in learning more. It is typically used by people who actively push back against homosexuality.

I never made a choice to be attracted to women. Given that, why would I think some other guy made a choice to be attracted to guys?
No they don't. Show me one that has multiple straight people. And the main spokesperson in the commercial is never straight.

Just like the dancing commercial people are always fat.
 
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- Calling one's sexuality a 'choice' is pretty lame. While sexuality, gender, and sexual preference can be fluid or exist on a spectrum, claiming these things are choices is cheap and typically said by people who aren't genuinely interested in learning more. It is typically used by people who actively push back against homosexuality.
I agree with a lot of the post you made, but when you say things that are different than what the science says, I have to call you out. You say gender can be fluid?

I ask you a few questions -
1) can you name one person who has XX chromosomes who has "transitioned" into a man and dominated men's sports?
2) Has there ever been a man (someone of XY chromosomes) that transitioned and had a baby?
3) You do know that men have XY chromosomes and women have XX chromosomes, and no amount of hormones or surgeries can ever change that, correct?

Gender isn't "fluid" or whatever you want to call it by saying it can change. It can't.
 
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No they don't. Show me one that has multiple straight people. And the main spokesperson in the commercial is never straight.

Just like the dancing commercial people are always fat.
Ok, I am misremembering. It just isnt important enough to remember clearly, I suppose.
I just seem to remember actors that make up multiple couples and individuals, with some representing straight people and some representing gay people.
If its just one token straight person...ok then.


Are you upset that there isnt more straight representation? If you arent upset, then what does it matter?
 

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I agree with a lot of the post you made, but when you say things that are different than what the science says, I have to call you out. You say gender can be fluid?

I ask you a few questions -
1) can you name one person who has XX chromosomes who has "transitioned" into a man and dominated men's sports?
2) Has there ever been a man (someone of XY chromosomes) that transitioned and had a baby?
3) You do know that men have XY chromosomes and women have XX chromosomes, and no amount of hormones or surgeries can ever change that, correct?
Um...well me responding to this is sure to brew into something toxic, but sure I guess I will respond. Its better than the webinar I am listening to.

- Yes, gender can be fluid. That isnt a controversial statement. Gender fluidity has existed since well before I was born.

- XX is biological female. I am unaware of anyone who was born biologically female, identifies as male(or non-binary), and dominates a men's sport.
- I am unaware of anyone who was born biologically male, transitioned and identifies as female, and then grew and delivered a child. Disclaimer- I do not follow anything like this closely though.
- Yes, I am aware of what XX and XY mean, and I am aware that a person's chromosomal makeup cant change. I do not know why you are asking me this.



If you are asking these questions because I included 'sexuality' alongside 'gender' and 'sexual preference'...please understand that the term 'sexuality' is very wide ranging and I was not referring to the very specific concept of 'biological sex'. Sexuality is way more than just 'male or female' and I was using it as a way to describe romantic attraction.
I hope you can see that and instead of pushing more for clarification that I am not some crazy gender loon, you would reply to Bruce and point out that you also never made the choice to be attracted to women, as a way to help show using the word 'choice' is less than ideal.
 

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Um...well me responding to this is sure to brew into something toxic, but sure I guess I will respond. Its better than the webinar I am listening to.

- Yes, gender can be fluid. That isnt a controversial statement. Gender fluidity has existed since well before I was born.

- XX is biological female. I am unaware of anyone who was born biologically female, identifies as male(or non-binary), and dominates a men's sport.
- I am unaware of anyone who was born biologically male, transitioned and identifies as female, and then grew and delivered a child. Disclaimer- I do not follow anything like this closely though.
- Yes, I am aware of what XX and XY mean, and I am aware that a person's chromosomal makeup cant change. I do not know why you are asking me this.



If you are asking these questions because I included 'sexuality' alongside 'gender' and 'sexual preference'...please understand that the term 'sexuality' is very wide ranging and I was not referring to the very specific concept of 'biological sex'. Sexuality is way more than just 'male or female' and I was using it as a way to describe romantic attraction.
I hope you can see that and instead of pushing more for clarification that I am not some crazy gender loon, you would reply to Bruce and point out that you also never made the choice to be attracted to women, as a way to help show using the word 'choice' is less than ideal.
I wasn't referring to "sexuality" or "sexual preference". Some dudes might like taking it in the a$$ and some might like giving it in the a$$. I was referring to "gender" and no, gender isn't fluid. Gender is either "male" or "female" and cannot change. The word "fluid" implies that it can. It cannot.

I was asking you question 3 because chromosomes are what dictate what gender we are.

And I never made a choice to be attracted to women. One day I just woke up and went to school and saw a girl and thought she looked pretty.
 

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3 comments...

- The hiv medication commercials I have noticed will typically have 5 to 8 people, a mix of single people and couples, and some are gay while others arent(based on the presenting genders).

- I was unaware that hiv doesn't predominantly impact the gay community in the US. It has been presented to me since the early 90s as a virus/disease that highly impacts the gay community. To my knowledge, it is well known to predominantly impact the gay community in the US.

- Calling one's sexuality a 'choice' is pretty lame. While sexuality, gender, and sexual preference can be fluid or exist on a spectrum, claiming these things are choices is cheap and typically said by people who aren't genuinely interested in learning more. It is typically used by people who actively push back against homosexuality.

I never made a choice to be attracted to women. Given that, why would I think some other guy made a choice to be attracted to guys?
Genders are Fluid and exist in a spectrum? No you are one ore the other. Not controversial just universally true
 
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I wasn't referring to "sexuality" or "sexual preference". Some dudes might like taking it in the a$$ and some might like giving it in the a$$. I was referring to "gender" and no, gender isn't fluid. Gender is either "male" or "female" and cannot change. The word "fluid" implies that it can. It cannot.

I was asking you question 3 because chromosomes are what dictate what gender we are.

And I never made a choice to be attracted to women. One day I just woke up and went to school and saw a girl and thought she looked pretty.
Sex vs Gender
- Sex is biological, so either male or female.
- I am going to sound like a radical liberal here, but whatever...gender is a social and cultural construct that represents how a person views themselves based on their culture, environment, etc.

You are mixing the two up.


I agree with you on attraction- I thought girls looked pretty so I was attracted to them. It was never a choice...hence my mentioning that claiming it is a choice is lame.
 

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Genders are Fluid and exist in a spectrum? No you are one ore the other. Not controversial just universally true
Dislike it all you want, but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist as a reality. You are objectively incorrect.

Sex is biological.
Gender is fluid and a construct based on social and cultural influences.

Its 2025...how has this very well established reality not reached everyone in the US? This was learned back in the 90s in Health class.
 

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Sex vs Gender
- Sex is biological, so either male or female.
- I am going to sound like a radical liberal here, but whatever...gender is a social and cultural construct that represents how a person views themselves based on their culture, environment, etc.

You are mixing the two up.


I agree with you on attraction- I thought girls looked pretty so I was attracted to them. It was never a choice...hence my mentioning that claiming it is a choice is lame.
Im not mixing anything up. Gender is not a construct. It's a biological fact, just another name for sex.

If gender is a construct then why can't you name anyone with XX chromosomes who dominates mens sports.

Even the Minneapolis shooter got it. He said he wished he was born a girl but no matter what he did he was always going to be male.
 

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So daughters who don't paint their dad's fingernails grow up to be on OnlyFans? Got it.

You know, there are other ways to show your daughter you love them. My daughters know I love them through lots of ways, but painting my fingernails isn't one of them.
I was mostly joking. I think there are a lot of different types of parenting styles, but the most important is that your kids know they are loved. Your daughters know you love them, and I think that makes you're a great dad.
 
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Im not mixing anything up. Gender is not a construct. It's a biological fact, just another name for sex.
Strictly speaking, that’s not true if you believe the totally woke аss DEI-laden (checks notes) Webster’s Dictionary. Someone’s sex can (and generally does) determine (or at least inform) their gender, but the terms are not completely interchangeable. How the hell did we get here? Whitlock said something dumb?

From the Webster website:
Among those who study gender and sexuality, a clear delineation between sex and gender is typically prescribed, with sex as the preferred term for biological forms, and gender limited to its meanings involving behavioral, cultural, and psychological traits. In this dichotomy, the terms male and female relate only to biological forms (sex), while the terms masculine/masculinity, feminine/femininity, woman/girl, and man/boy relate only to psychological and sociocultural traits (gender).


ETA: yes, I know. I regretted posting immediately.
 
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