JCA/NAZ Thoughts

Sportsmom901

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Oh so is James Robinson going to Alabama? Stats mean next to NOTHING to college coaches. Film, eye ball test, workout numbers, grades, character are what matter to most of team, last of all is high school stats. I can tell you're a special breed so I will end our back and forth right where it is, have a good day, good luck to your son tomorrow.
I think James Robinson is a talented kid, and who knows he might.. maybe he camps and his stats match up to his film....... Wow.... just because you don't think he can not play at Alabama does not mean he can't....... and you just made my point, film, number, test, and grades are what we call STATS, and they all have to add up Sir....... once again that's why they have camps.... or should college just take your word as to who they offer...... and yes i am a special breed cause you can't just tell me anything without me asking how come? Thank you and GL to you Sir.
 

NazDad

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Am I the only person on this board that thinks JCA gets up early and never looks back this time? JCA may not have the names like Naz does but I think they are a better overall unit and that's what counts at the high school level.

I disagree, but thank you for getting back on topic.

Nazareth needs to play a clean Special Teams game. In other words no bad punts and limit the return yardage; and they need to win the turnover game. If they do that Nazareth wins. If not they are playing from behind again and I think JCA gets the win.
 

Prowler2018

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:eek: I am literally exhausted from reading all the back and forth banter about who's kid is better--- blah blah blah! Bottoms line is they are just that -kids! kids make mistakes...IMO the group of kids who make the least will be ahead at the end of tomorrows game-

You may not return to your regularly scheduled Children's blog on who is the best player-
 

mc140

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JCA in the process of trying to hand Naz the game before the first quarter ends.
 

jwarigaku

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Looks like Tempo might have been the answer here Dean...this was the plan since 2nd Half of the first game and the last score of the first game was NOT perfunctory! They were an insides kick away from a tie or win.

I think the fact that Naz wants to play fast only helps JC. Especially with Davis back. If JC was up against a slow ball control eat clock offense might have trouble. Being at first game ,JC had total control and play calling changed in 2nd half and aggressiveness on defense. Naz scored a perfunctory TD at end. As long as JC doesn't turn ball over 3 times they win or any special teams gaffes. Games like this won at los and turnover battle. JC completely dominated the los first game.
 

jwarigaku

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MC140 nice, really no respect for anyone else I see! Those kids from JCA deserve more respect and better comments than you have to offer here!

JCA in the process of trying to hand Naz the game before the first quarter ends.
 

Sportsmom901

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You called it, and Naz did it....... Great Game!......... we should all be proud of all the boys from both teams they fought an epic battle for us to enjoy...... congratulations NAZ and best wishes to JCA........
 
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BretEpic

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[QUOTE="Sportsmom901, they fought an epic [/QUOTE]


Approved

So many great plays by so many kids.
 

mc140

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MC140 nice, really no respect for anyone else I see! Those kids from JCA deserve more respect and better comments than you have to offer here!


 

mc140

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YES REALLY!

Defend your comment about JCA giving the game away! You whack both teams simultaneously

You are such a baby.

PJJP said practically the exact same thing in another thread. They turned the ball over 4 times gave up a pick to the house and fumbled going in on another. The JCA people are calling for coaches to be fired in that same thread due to losing again with what they perceive to be the better team.

If it makes you feel better I don't think you win by less than 28 next week.
 
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jwarigaku

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What ever man, if that's what you think that's fine with me. I guess the better team lost today...right?! I have the utmost respect for the JCA kids, I talked to quite a few after the game today, and the last thing they would tell you is they gave the game away. Give both teams a round of applause they left it all on the field today. Were you actually at the game? If so where did you sit?


You are such a baby.

PJJP said practically the exact same thing in another thread. They turned the ball over 4 times gave up a pick to the house and fumbled going in on another. The JCA people are calling for coaches to be fired in that same thread due to losing again with what they perceive to be the better team.

If it makes you feel better I don't think you win by less than 28 next week.
 

BretEpic

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You are such a baby.

PJJP said practically the exact same thing in another thread. They turned the ball over 4 times gave up a pick to the house and fumbled going in on another. The JCA people are calling for coaches to be fired in that same thread due to losing again with what they perceive to be the better team.

If it makes you feel better I don't think you win by less than 28 next week.

They were not the better team. But yes, the gameplan was questionable at times.
 

godfthr53

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3 of the 4 turnovers were forced by Naz defense not JCA simpky handing the game away. The first play was the only that wasn't but Naz was still in the backfield. JCA gameplan was a little sketchy. How the heck did #6 get up from that block on the pick 6. He definitely did not know where he was. Best block I seen in 3+ years. Also JCA was clueless when Naz broke out the Wildcat , or should we call it the Lovecat.
 
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BretEpic

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3 of the 4 turnovers were forced by Naz defense not JCA simpky handing the game away. The first play was the only that wasn't but Naz was still in the backfield. JCA gameplan was a little sketchy. How the heck did #6 get up from that block on the pick 6. He definitely did not know where he was. Best block I seen in 3+ years. Also JCA was clueless when Naz broke out the Wildcat , or should we call it the Lovecat.
"What's your dog's name?"

"Coach I don't have a dog"

"Get back in there son"
 

pjjp

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How the heck did #6 get up from that block on the pick 6. He definitely did not know where he was. Best block I seen in 3+ years.

I thought he was done for the game after the block. Ke'von Johnson is listed at 5'8 170 lbs. I'm guessing he's closer 5'6 150 lbs. (at the most). My first reaction was to be impressed with his toughness. However, in today's day and age, my second reaction was to question whether or not it's a good idea to return to the game after a hit like that.
 

DDIFUSCO

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Schematically they are extinct which has traditionally cost them in big spots and will continue to if they remain as is. They got beat soundly. Turnovers are a result of pressure and mental errors.
 

jwarigaku

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MC140,

I asked you a question? Where did you sit at the game yesterday to make your assessment? Do you selectively ignore it because it doesn't help your case, while inserting yourself into another thread where you bomb away at why you think Naz is an inferior team, and how JCA gives games away?

What ever man, if that's what you think that's fine with me. I guess the better team lost today...right?! I have the utmost respect for the JCA kids, I talked to quite a few after the game today, and the last thing they would tell you is they gave the game away. Give both teams a round of applause they left it all on the field today. Were you actually at the game? If so where did you sit?
 

JCHillmen

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Schematically they are extinct which has traditionally cost them in big spots and will continue to if they remain as is. They got beat soundly. Turnovers are a result of pressure and mental errors.

I literally laughed out loud as I read this poster try to make a grandiose claim after a Naz victory. Were they schematically extinct when they beat you FIVE WEEKS AGO!?!?

Yikes, Naz won today. That's the end of the narrative. JC turned the ball over four times. Naz was the better team, but JC did everything it could to give the game away. There are a lot of comparisons to the first meeting when Naz did the same thing in the first half (bad snaps, silly fake punt late in the first half, etc.)

Just like that isn't indicative of Naz as a team or the coaching staff, they were just unforced miscues, JC did the same thing Saturday. It certainly helped JC win the first game and Naz win the won that mattered.

Good luck to Naz. They are a good program with perhaps the best player in the state. Will be tough to beat. But if they're going to keep winning over the years, I hope some of the Naz people lose the thin skin and learn how to win (not the majority, but there are certainly some living up to the reputation).
 

pjjp

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I literally laughed out loud as I read this poster try to make a grandiose claim after a Naz victory. Were they schematically extinct when they beat you FIVE WEEKS AGO!?!?

The poster to which you are referring had a brief association with JCA. It would appear he may have an ax to grind.
 

jwarigaku

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JChill,

As I've said several times I have a huge amount of respect for the kids, the coaches, and the storied program. The refusal of adaptation to systematic issues is problematic. When a team plays JCA it knows what they need to prepare for, they make no bones about it...this is who we are and it's not going to change, stop us if you can. The problem comes when a team can make the adjustments needed to stop them and no adjustments are made on the other side. Yes the JCA game plan and some self destruction by Naz 5 weeks ago was a success in the first half but the second half found JCA hanging onto the win. This week pregame, I saw JCA warming up running a number of the typical Naz plays, good to always prepare for sure...but when the first offensive play for Naz lined up it was like nothing JCA had prepared for and the confusion was evident. Yes the fumble for JCA on the first play hurt, but the defensive confusion allowing a receiver free right down the seam was far worse.

Is Naz perfect...Hell no, but are they willing to adapt to the talent they have and the game situation they are in...yes. JCA is far from dead, but they need to accept change or IMO they will go the way of the dinosaurs.

I literally laughed out loud as I read this poster try to make a grandiose claim after a Naz victory. Were they schematically extinct when they beat you FIVE WEEKS AGO!?!?

Yikes, Naz won today. That's the end of the narrative. JC turned the ball over four times. Naz was the better team, but JC did everything it could to give the game away. There are a lot of comparisons to the first meeting when Naz did the same thing in the first half (bad snaps, silly fake punt late in the first half, etc.)

Just like that isn't indicative of Naz as a team or the coaching staff, they were just unforced miscues, JC did the same thing Saturday. It certainly helped JC win the first game and Naz win the won that mattered.

Good luck to Naz. They are a good program with perhaps the best player in the state. Will be tough to beat. But if they're going to keep winning over the years, I hope some of the Naz people lose the thin skin and learn how to win (not the majority, but there are certainly some living up to the reputation).
 

Hinterland

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JCA in the process of trying to hand Naz the game before the first quarter ends.

Wow, my original thoughts regarding SHG basically handing the game to Crete-Monee. I thought SHG would lay an egg in the playoffs, but to say they handed the game to the Warriors is not giving Crete-Monee credit for the skilled, athletic team they obviously are. Perhaps it is more proper to look at the JCA/Naz game from the same viewpoint, i.e., yes, there were mistakes made early in the game by JCA, but do not let that take away from the obvious skills and athleticism of the Naz team which in the end gained them the victory.
 
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