My bad. Here is another link if you want it. I wish him the best.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ch-jerry-kill-retires-due-to-medical-concerns
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ch-jerry-kill-retires-due-to-medical-concerns
How many coaches in the history of the game have been around for 20 years or more and have a winning percentage of .667 or better?
Tom Osborne and Bob Devaney are not the benchmarks for being considered a "great" football coach.
I think Kill is a great coach. However I also think Riley is a pretty good coach. There are plenty of Husker fans on this board however, have said that career winning pct defines all. A situation that is not kind to Riley or Kill.
How is it not kind to Kill? He has won 2/3 of his career games in over 20 years as an HC at a bunch of historically awful football programs? He has dozens of league championships and playoff appearances along the way.
On what planet is that construed as anything other than rousing success? That's not even close to mediocre loser Riley's lack of accomplishments.
All I am interested with is his last stop. That's when he got to a power 5 school (one that has won National titles in the past) He is a .500 coach. That's all that matters.
He is a great man. Nobody here should be calling him a "good" coach though. Simply because his record at Minnesota. What's his career win percentage there?
He is a great man. Nobody here should be calling him a "good" coach though. Simply because his record at Minnesota. What's his career win percentage there?
Are you saying Tim Miles is not a good coach then? He's .500 at Nebraska so far.
I think the best measure of a coach is comparing how he left programs, compared to how they were when he took over. Kill (like Miles) always left programs in much better shape then when he took them over. Riley left Oregon State in pretty bad shape, with 3 losing seasons in the last 5 years and losing 14 of his last 16 conference games.
I'm not sure that's a real good comparison. I think the jury is still out as to whether Miles is a good coach. He's had a few good seasons, but hasn't had consistent success anywhere.
According to this link, at major schools Kill is .536 and 0-5 in bowls.
According to wikipedia, during his time at small schools, Kill had 3 conference titles.
I'd say if one was comparing "major college resumes and higher", Kill and Riley are pretty well even. If one is willing to trade a couple Grey Cups for small school conference titles (but even this would be pulling from Kill's time in the minors).
Are you saying Tim Miles is not a good coach then? He's .500 at Nebraska so far.
I get such a kick out of the "Grey Cup" argument. It's freaking hilarious. If any other fanbase on the planet actually used that to defend their coach, you clowns would be merciless in your mocking.
BTW, I looked that up on Wikipedia, and Riley's team was a whopping 9-9 one of those years. A spectacular season, no doubt. Maybe we can create a Brown Cup trophy or something and give it you guys each time you actually qualify for a bowl game under Mediocre Mike.
You think Riley inherited a bad situation but Kill doesn't get credit for turning Minnesota into a B1G division contender. He inherited an absolute dumpster fire from Brewster. He overall record is 29-29 but Brewster was 15-30 and lost to South Dakota in his final year. Kill improved every program he took over. I never said he was a GREAT coach, but he is a good coach.
Jerry Kill has built up five different programs, at every stop in his career, from a bad program to really good.
Mike Riley was at one program for a long time and undulated between ok and pretty good. He did have success in the CFL, and a decided lack of success in the NFL.
I don't think their records are remotely comparable.