Jim Nance rips into Tiger.......

[fishwater99]

"If I said what he said on the air, I would be fired. I read in the USA Today and it was called “mild language.” Someone on my broadcast dismissed it as him having a camera in his face. Well, guess what? <font color="#0069aa">Phil Mickelson</font> had a camera in his face all week and did you even hear him come close to approaching that? He didn’t hit every shot the way he wanted. Have you ever heard Arnold Palmer or Jack Nicklaus use that kind of language? What are the parameters between what’s right or wrong?"</p>

Iagree, Tiger's outbursts are ridiculous, immature and classless.

http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/Jim-Nantz-criticizes-Tiger-Woods-vocal-tantrums?urn=golf,233852

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[fishwater99]

"If I said what he said on the air, I would be fired. I read in the USA Today and it was called “mild language.” Someone on my broadcast dismissed it as him having a camera in his face. Well, guess what? <font color="#0069aa">Phil Mickelson</font> had a camera in his face all week and did you even hear him come close to approaching that? He didn’t hit every shot the way he wanted. Have you ever heard Arnold Palmer or Jack Nicklaus use that kind of language? What are the parameters between what’s right or wrong?"</p>

Iagree, Tiger's outbursts are ridiculous, immature and classless.

http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/Jim-Nantz-criticizes-Tiger-Woods-vocal-tantrums?urn=golf,233852

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[fishwater99]

"If I said what he said on the air, I would be fired. I read in the USA Today and it was called “mild language.” Someone on my broadcast dismissed it as him having a camera in his face. Well, guess what? <font color="#0069aa">Phil Mickelson</font> had a camera in his face all week and did you even hear him come close to approaching that? He didn’t hit every shot the way he wanted. Have you ever heard Arnold Palmer or Jack Nicklaus use that kind of language? What are the parameters between what’s right or wrong?"</p>

Iagree, Tiger's outbursts are ridiculous, immature and classless.

http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/Jim-Nantz-criticizes-Tiger-Woods-vocal-tantrums?urn=golf,233852

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[Shmuley]

probably needs to STFU.

But that's me.

 

[McDawg]

Shmuley, that should be: Jim bangin the Intern then Divorcing the Wife then crying before the judge Nance

Yeah he doesn't have a lot of room to talk, needs to get off his Master's high horse

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

fart and breath in the wind either. I agree that he should control himself better but at the same time it isn't the same world it was 30 years ago Nance.

 

[RebelBruiser]

if golf doesn't like the cussing, get the microphone away from him.

It's a sport. Forever it's been played like it's a weekend hobby. Heaven forbid someone come in and be so competitive that they cuss at themselves for not being perfect. I realize it's a gentlemen's game and all that BS, but when it's played at the stakes they are playing in the PGA, it's a little bit different.

The cussing is just another reason for those that liked it better when the tour was all white men playing a country club sport to hate Tiger, while praising Jack. Jack was great, the best of his era, maybe even the best of all time. Tiger is great, the best of his era, maybe even the best of all time. He's playing in a much different era though, much further removed from the 1950s country club tour. Much like NASCAR is no longer a redneck only sport, golf is no longer a country club only sport.

I say cuss away. I watch my favorite athletes in all other sports cuss all the time. It gives me peace of mind to know that their failures anger them as much as it angers the fans that are pulling for them.

 

[Bdog9090]

esp. a major, is the difference between lots and lots of money. If I were on the tour and shot a ball into the pine straw right behind a pine tree, possibly making me drop a shot or two, I would be cussing too.

 

[McDawg]

Yeah, I can't remember who it was that interviewed Tiger at the end of his round but those were some stupid pointed questions at the wrong time in the wrong place. I really half expected Tiger to haul off and hit the guy in the face. Then again, that Master's chairman probably would've called him back into the office if he had clocked him. Tiger probably scared of that now, huh?

 

[57stratdawg]

Cant we cut the feed from a mic right after the shot by now?

 

[Mr Meoff]

*

 

[AlCoDog]

He has had that mouth since his rookie year. I've heard GD and 17 come out of his mouth plenty of times before this.

 

[bendog]

that Tiger came out and promised a new, improved Tiger who showed more respect for the game and all that BS, and that didn't last but a day or two. I don't really have a problem with him expressing his frustrations...but if that's how it's going to be, then he should've just left that whole issue of "respect for the game" unvisited.

It sort of makes one wonder, if he says he's going to control his temper on the course, and can't do any better a job of it than that...then how's he doing with all these other behaviors he's supposedly trying to change?

 

[patdog]

After the Andy Roddick incident and the Maria Sharapova indicents, Idon't think hearing Tiger cuss on TV willbe all that much new to her.

 

[cytubb]

nm

 

[Oxford Godfrey]

BOOM.

 

[AROB44]

Since when?

 

[Original48]

I've heard GD and 17 come out of his mouth plenty of times before this.

GD is the ultimate in offensive language to those who worship God...which is the majority of our country. I would imagine should "Budda Damnit" become a popular go-to derogatory expression it would end up in some type of congressional hearing and legislation banning its use would be passed.

 

[McMeat]

Tiger has been wired like this for 34 years. You think he could change completely (at least what how he reacts on the golf course) in one week? We saw some shifttowrads making some strides early on in the week, but when the rubber started to meet the road on the weekend he went right back to his old ways /comfort zone.

He does have the mic on him more than everyone else and he knows it. He has got to learn to cuss or vent when he is walking downt he fairway after the shot, not on his follow through or he is going to get **** everytime he does it. It's that simple. Know when the mic's hot and dont say anything. When it's not, cuse all you want. You will still get caught everynow and then but not nearly as much. When your yelling YOU SUCK and GAWDDAMNIT on a tee box with 300 people standing on top you, you deserve to get ****. He can pout all he wants about him being in the "competitve moment" but that doesn't make it right.

The fact of the matteris, and this became very obvious in the awkward / horrible interview Peter Kostis gave after his round, he has not changed. He is a broken man on the inside and still completely selfish. It's all about him all the time. Not once did he mention Phil or his family or any other players that just beat him. He talked about his game, how disappointed he was in his game /swing / etc.

And you wonder why no one on tour is friends with him.............</p>

 

[paindonthurt_]

Cussing doesn't show disrespect for the game either.

Does it make tiger look less classy or not classy at all? Maybe, but who should care other than Tiger and his sponsors. Does it really look like they are backing away? Nope, but if they do who should care.............?...............

wait for it.............

wait.........

Tiger should. No one else.

If they don't want him cussing on TV use the 10 to 20 second tape delay and edit it, cut away, etc. Its really that simple. I think the PGA wants some of it shown b/c guess what................It makes them more money.

 

[zerocooldog]

compared to Tiger, based on that alone I'll stick with Jimmy on this one.

Also, Tiger has always been described as competitive and not a "class" golfer. Cussing is par for the course with that guy, and banging porn stars, talk about "classy" chicks, oh and his wife was an au pair before they were married, guy likes slumming and cussing I guess. So is there really any surprise he isn't going to change.

 

[RebelBruiser]

He's actually pretty well-liked on the tour, much moreso than Phil.

What that has to do with anything I don't know, but he is fairly well-liked by his peers.

As a golfer, he SHOULD be selfish. It's one of the only sports where it is all on you. Sure, you can benefit from someone else faltering, but at the end of the day, it's on you to play to the best of your ability. If you're a great golfer, at the end of a round, you'll be looking back on the shots you missed, not what someone else did.

I didn't see the interview in question, but of course he's selfish. All the great athletes are. Some are just better at masking it for the camera than others.

 

[AlCoDog]

but he has been doing this his entire career, and is just now being called out. I love to watch Tiger play golf, but have never liked the way he acts on the golf course.</p>

 

[Agentdog]

if golf doesn't like the cussing, get the microphone away from him.

I agree. Take the camera off him too. Please do this.

someone come in and be so competitive that they cuss at themselves for not being perfect. I realize it's a gentlemen's game and all that BS, but when it's played at the stakes they are playing in the PGA, it's a little bit different.

So, Eldrick is cussing and throwing fits because he is competitive? I am sure everyone else on tour wants to win too. But I don't see much of that behavior beyond Eldrick...... maybe John Daly. Eldrick is cussing and throwing fits because he is arrogant and thinks he is entitled to win every tournament.

another reason for those that liked it better when the tour was all white men playing a country club sport to hate Tiger,

Generalize much? How about this.....those that judge others for not being "Tiger" fans are race baiters.

 

[Dawgfan61]

1. Golf is a gentleman's sport. I want my son and daughter to have class and not just go off cussing the one moment something doesn't go their way. Alot of society's problem's can be traced to people not handling their problems with class. I play golf and I cuss alot. I don't fault Tiger for cussing his bad shots when no one is around. The difference is there are no little kids around watching my 15 handicapper self 17 up. However, when I play golf with my daughter I don't cuss around her just like I wouldn't around anyone else's kids. Tiger makes a lot of money, an obscene amount of money because the fans buy tickets to see him play. I would think he can watch himself around my kids or anyone else that pays money to see him play. It isn't that much to ask is it??

2. Golf is the only sport where the players police themselves. You need to have decorum and integrity to play the game. Its a fact.

 

[maroonmania]

with any other golfer on tour?? Yea, I know, Tiger gets MUCH more air time than most but I also think he cusses on the course much more frequently than pretty much any other golfer I've ever seen and always has. I mean will the whole PGA golf broadcasts have to be put on a 7 second delay so kids can watch due to him. Its sort of ridiculous that a guy making off of golf what he makes can't regulate his mouth a little more during the 4 hours a day he's on the course. Heck, when he gets off camera he can cuss all he wants.

 

[McMeat]

Tiger is not liked by the other players. I don't want to be the guy on a message board that drops the "trust me, I know" but, trust me I know. Phil doesn't have many friends out there either. But to say fellow players like Tiger moreso than Phil is incorrect.

 

[Dawgfan61]

just as much as Tiger, I don't think anyone can deny that now.

I recall Phil going into the woods three times at Augusta on his drives. I don't recall him cussing once. I just saw him nut up and go make par or in the case of 13 on Sunday, nut up and make an incredible shot from the trees.

Putting the mikes on a 7 second delay would solve the problems for kids watching at home, It wouldn't solve the problems for anyone in the gallery.

If I was playing with Tiger and hit a bad shot and yelled "17ing gook buddha!!!!" I am pretty damn sure it would offend him. But him yelling GD or Jesus Christ shouldn't offend Christians??? I'm sorry I agree with maroonmania, he should learn to shut the 17 up for four hours a day when he is playing tournament golf. Its not that much to ask.

 

[ckDOG]

There's a certain level of "gentlemen"-like behavior that golfers expect other golfers to display on the course, but those rules are rarely followed by the individuals themselves. Golfers have no problem with calling other golfers out for questionable behavior, but conveniently forget the rules when they find themselves throwing clubs, cussing, and generally acting like arses themselves.

Perhaps they should just rename the sport "Church"?

 

[jakldawg]

(especially over the last week or so) is really something to behold.
You got the soft-focus Lifetime movie you wanted for the Masters. Just shut up already.

 

[bulliegolfer]

and made Tiger sound like a choir boy. And I don't cuss much. Except on the golf course.

 

[Dawgfan61]

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[Optimus Prime 4]

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[Lion O]

I'm sure she's never heard a cuss word, right?

 

[JimHalpert.nafoom]

in the huddle of college or NBA games.

 

[o_CPAdawg]

A writer had it out for Phil about 5 years ago and found a few people to say some bad things about him. The worst thing written was that he was cocky and (heaven forbid) he talked about Tiger's equipment (which was actually a complement). What nobody talks about is the articles that have followed that one. Phil had many players come to his side and say that article was bogus. The biggest was Freddy Couples. Unless you or I compete on the PGA tour and talk to all players and caddies, we really don't know if Tiger or Phil is really liked. I'm sure there is an awful lot of resentment toward both of them because, well, they are both so damn good!

 

[dawgstudent]

Stans'kidsku

 

[EEMan]

Right after Jarvis did this, he said "17 no!" loudly and plainly enough to be seen on TV and I seem to recall most people here loving it. It just seems like a double-standard to me.

 

[McMeat]

I'm not on tour, but I know plenty of players on tour, club reps and caddies. I know what they say and feel about both. What Phil said in that aritcle was joking around, it wasn't taken that way, and players came to his defense. The same way players came to Tigers defense when Tom Pernice turned Tiger into PGA officials about him having an illegal driver. Tiger was confronted on the range and told his driver had to be tested because another player thought it was illegal. Every player on the tour thought it was bush league the way that went down and defended Tiger. They dont like him, but the defeneded him.

Neither of them is liked, but the players on tour have an extreme amount of respect for both of them.

 

[BriantheDawg]

Come on man. If you're gonna use a word like couth, at least spell it correctly.