Pope is completely fine with the situation we’re in and might even agree with it. He’s Mitch’s yes-man. He’s part of the problem whether you want to admit it or not.
JMI cost us Collins?
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One of Kentucky's top targets in 2026 has reopened his recruitment
Mark Pope and Kentucky basketball have not had success in their efforts recruiting the 2026 class, with one of those being Christian Collins, a top 10 prospect
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We need to compile a list of all UK/JMI NIL partners and absolutely boycott every single one until this is changed. JMI already bought out all the existing UK related nil funds so if you donate to something like Club Blue it is going to JMI.
We aren’t getting the players needed to win as it is so we might as well stop donating. Bleed them dry. JMI/UK/Partners and whoever else is connected. It’s the only way they’ll change anything. Like i said, if we aren’t going to get the players needed to win titles then it really doesn’t hurt a bit to stop donating.
Boycotts aren’t enough. Make every game miserable for Mitch Barnhart. Scream for his firing so it can be heard on every national game. Treat him and JMI like Dallas treated Nico Harrison.
You always wonder about self-dealing and accountability in a scenario where insiders are negotiating media and NIL deals behind closed doors. So what did leadership and the BOT get for going along with the 15 year licensing deal to JMI? Who benefits from this entire scenario? Because it sure as hell isn't the basketball program.
lol I haven’t heard that brand in over a decade. That woman in the blue dress they used in their infomercials was smoking. I was probably 19-20 when I first started seeing it. I did what any curious 19 year old dumbass would do and tried it. My god… I could have poked holes through a brick wall. Never made that mistake again.
Have people heard about him being diagnosed with cystic fibrosis?
A couple Twitter posts I saw over the last couple of days about it.
Not saying whether it should or shouldn’t have any impact on anything.
Just super random to come out. The fact multiple folks brought it up, feels strange.
Any of the paid boards allude to it?
A couple Twitter posts I saw over the last couple of days about it.
Not saying whether it should or shouldn’t have any impact on anything.
Just super random to come out. The fact multiple folks brought it up, feels strange.
Any of the paid boards allude to it?
EDIT: Well I just watched Aaron Torres show where Trilly Donovan claims losing Collins really was mostly about the JMI contractual stuff. So, great. We have a head coach who can't get kids, and just in case one slips through the cracks, we have JMI to bounce kids away with a vengeance. That's a great defensive system right there.
If only our basket defense was half as good as our recruit defense.
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If we only have Jack Pilgrim's info to go on (and apologies if we have more to go on that I don't know about) I would have to say it sounds like it was Pope's ineptitude, and not JMI, that really lost us Collins and the other players.
It just all comes down to human nature. If lots of schools are bidding big money for you and the school bidding the most money has some extra hoops it's asking you to jump through, most people would kind of take that in stride. They would figure that the biggest operation had the most little legal strings involved with it. A combination of higher-paid school lawyers wanting to make everything just so and everybody trying to get their fingers into the biggest pie. All that's just kind of business as usual in America (in the world, really) so 95% of people at least would just mutter and shrug it off at that point. That school is still paying you (or your kid, or your client) more than anybody else was paying and it is a huge name blue blood from the top or near-top Power 5 conference.
But it's a totally different story if you get into a situation where Kentucky offered either two million or a number that "we promise will be enough" and Vandy and/or other schools are offering 4 million cold hard cash. In that case you don't take the shtty deal from Kentucky OR shrug OR mutter. You take the people who are offering you cash instead of doublespeak.
And if Pope really was doing things like getting emotional and telling people, "We're not going to get into a bidding war: we're Kentucky," then it's definitely that second scenario that lost us those kids.
I don't pretend to know any specifics here but I do know human nature real well. Put 4 or 5 million dollars on the table and almost anyone will hold their nose and get into a shtty contract when it's from the highest bidder, especially if that's tied to the prospect of an exciting basketball system at a big name school with a cool coach. Start telling people you're just not going to pay them as much as the other guys because "we are Kentucky" and everybody's going to laugh at you, which seems to be what has been happening. And is why I was one of Pope's biggest defenders up until all this broke about ten days ago, and now I'm like either those articles were just flat out wrong or Pope needs to GO.
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Who, Barney? Haven’t heard about that but he definitely has cystic dumbassness.
Collins signed his first NIL deal with Crocs. He also had a very interesting quote that seemed like a direct shot at JMI. Not that this will be enough proof for Anon512345 aka JMI/Barney stooge.
“I definitely know what’s going on with my decisions and whatnot,” Collins said. “I don’t want to make decisions that I don’t want to do, so if you see me with a deal, I definitely made that decision.”
“I definitely know what’s going on with my decisions and whatnot,” Collins said. “I don’t want to make decisions that I don’t want to do, so if you see me with a deal, I definitely made that decision.”
I don’t know what’s going on. Most great players don’t seem to want to play for him. Before JMI- missed on so many solid guys. Now post JMI he has missed on a couple guys. I have to think that our NIL/revenue sharing would still be much more than other schools that have more lenient NIL policies?
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Pope revealed on his radio show on Monday that he’s been ordered not to speak above a conversational volume for the next few days due to vocal strain caused by constant yelling during practices and games. It’s a small but telling sign of how demanding the opening weeks of the season have been for a Kentucky program still finding its footing under basically a brand-new roster.
“It’s been a pretty emotional several weeks, and it’s been taxing on my voice,” Pope said.
Pope revealed on his radio show on Monday that he’s been ordered not to speak above a conversational volume for the next few days due to vocal strain caused by constant yelling during practices and games. It’s a small but telling sign of how demanding the opening weeks of the season have been for a Kentucky program still finding its footing under basically a brand-new roster.
“It’s been a pretty emotional several weeks, and it’s been taxing on my voice,” Pope said.
JMI #51 (#48 is on vacation) wants you to stop lying and attacking UK with false narratives. All the factual information including the actual contract is publicly available information. Stop being lazy and learn facts for yourself and quit repeating lies.
There are literally rules and an NCAA website that provides the rules and guidelines for NIL. Y’all sound like UL fans trying to get their banner back for hiring hookers for recruits.
Yes everything is fine. We only had 2 top recruits locked up and things changed once contract negotiations with JMI started. JMI is great, thank you so much JMI we love you and you are doing a great job. You have managed to close 0 recruits. Oh my goodness all things are great. Glad to have Anon573848 to let us all know. Thank you. Great times for UK basketball.
It’s quite obvious who is telling all the lies. The one who calls everyone else a liar. Here’s looking at you, Bot #48 or whatever your alias of the moment is.
I'm surprised he had time to crawl out from under Mitch's desk and wipe his mouth off to get on Rafters to inform the masses.
The JMI ministry of propaganda has you working late these days! You're their leading offensive rebounder: Shill Russell.
How long will we go on missing top players before people start getting doxxed?
Do the Bakers have a roofing business?
Do the Bakers have a roofing business?
I’m surprised that you don’t want to talk about the fact that you don’t have to sign away your NIL rights, you can sign 3rd party deals, you don’t have to use JMI approved partners, or that you don’t even have to use JMI for NIL. It’s almost like the narrative is more important than the truth.
The facts of the matter burn your skin. UK is a great basketball program with immense NIL opportunities. You will find out when Will Stein kills it in the portal in the near future.
Whatever I am, you absolutely do not have to sign away your NIL rights at UK, you don’t have to sign NIL deals with JMI approved partners UK partners, you don’t even have to use JMI. Have fun working late promoting an agenda that hurts UK.
I'm surprised you're so d*** stupid you haven't seen that I have posted MULTIPLE TIMES that players can opt to not use JMI and sign 3rd party deal, but they have to receive permission from JMI to use trademarked properties. You have failed to concede that the verbiage in the contract makes it EXTREMELY difficult for a player to do that and that UK/JMI pushes players to not go that route. The fact that you don't know how JMI works is hilarious considering you're their chi boy.
What did I lie about? Oh wait, you can’t say. None of you can ever back up a word you say. You’re just desperate to promote the agenda that hurts UK.
You all lied when you say players have to sign away their NIL rights at UK. You all lied when you said players have to sign NIL deals with JMI approved UK partners. You all lied when you said players at UK can’t sign 3rd party NIL deals, or JMI puts restrictions on them.
Of course you won’t get any NIL money upfront or guaranteed and you won’t get any help in making any NIL deals and if you do happen to make a deal, you have to wait until JMI gets around to approving it. Wonder why nobody is signing up for those apples or no other school is operating like that?
What are you even talking about, you’ll get whatever your contract says you get. Elite players have agents who get these deals and don’t rely on in house NIL deals. JMI doesn’t approve 3rd party deals, they only control BBNIL Suite. They can no more tell a player what NIL deals they can do than they can tell you where to work. It’s literally spelled out in the contract verbatim that they cannot “limit student-athletes’ ability to engage in NIL activities independently with other parties”.
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You can only scream “IT‘S THE NAME ON THE FRONT OF THE JERSEY” at the top of your lungs so many times.
You’re being obtuse. You know better.
Kentucky is trying to lock in as much revenue as they can for themselves. This administration has been obsessed with lowering expectations here but using the fanbase at the same time. They want a sort of business middle ground where we “go team!!” And get a bowl thrown our way, or a chance at a final four every decade - maybe, but shell the cash out. If we don’t expect much and we’re so passionate, they safe in their jobs, and they can do all of this crap.
The Rupp guys saved the basketball program last time and it seems Mitch was going to make sure he gained all of that control back this time. That era maintained those insane expectations we have. Well, 15 years of mediocrity will settle that score and bring them back down. Look at some of our fans already for 5 years making excuses for things that would have gotten you fired year 15+ years ago.
I believe then Mitch wanted to secure as much as he could when the NIL hit, he hates it and doesn’t want a dime going to these athletes. So he’s on the way out but his parting gift is locking in 15 years and taking in a half a billion for the university. Won’t have to worry about paying the good ones, they’re not selling their rights. Cheaper players coming, and they got a half billion. Win win for him.
They are literally lowering standards here and creating a pathway where they don’t have to pay out. Now just gaslight and sit back, wait for the fans to accept it.
I’ll believe that JMI is blameless when I see Collins sitting in a Bronco Raptor eating Golden F**** potato chips saying he bought his momma a B*** home and it’s insured by Kentucky F*** B*****.
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Corporate shills should realize that they're completely transparent and offputting. Nobody's buying their spin.
Any time he's asked a direct question regarding delays, he just ignores it. He's getting boring now, just repeating the same sh*t
Technically these things may very well be true. But everything Mitch says, and especially what he DOESN'Tsay, and what we see with our own eyes, strongly suggests that somewhere contract negotiations are breaking down. Mitch (and you, whoever you are) are refusing to explain why negotiations with every top basketball prospect are breaking down and not getting done.
And how many elite 5 stars will Stien be signing? Opps, there goes that narrative as well.
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I’m wondering if the issue is HS NIL deals that is holding it all up?
Stokes already has an NIL deal with Nike. Collins just announced an NIL deal with Crocs.
And before I get Verbally assaulted it’s a question, since none of the people involved are being transparent.
Stokes already has an NIL deal with Nike. Collins just announced an NIL deal with Crocs.
And before I get Verbally assaulted it’s a question, since none of the people involved are being transparent.
America is waking up to things that have been going on for a long time in this country and this is just another example.
Has Disney bought out Kentucky’s athletic department yet?
I don’t know, but even if Stokes signed with Kentucky, it doesn’t change anything to me. I expect them to throw a ton of cash at a player coming up to make it appear nothing is wrong. Then it’ll be back to missing 15 in a row. Watch for it.
Perhaps that and JMI will cross out that language as a one off.
Cmon bro. He verbally committed to Pope. Went to work out the contract and JMI wanted him to sign away his right to find any outside deals. He said No.
Then 3 days later signed an NIL deal with Crocs. Then sent out a tweet saying no one is gonna restrain him from signing the deals he wants. Have you Not been paying attention? It was 100% JMI. He was a Cat. Stokes too. Then JMI kills it with their restrictions.
They’ll do something, then all of the gaslit softies in the fan base will scream SEEEE!!!
followed by a mountain of trash but hey, we can turn it around!
They don’t even realize Kentucky doesn’t “turn this around”. We win, start to finish. We have short down periods not long lasting. They just don’t get it whats going on.
That’s because Mitch is corrupted. Mitch wants this more than JMI does. It’s probably his idea. This is designed to make our partner companies more money. Central Bank, and the other mega supporters want the exclusive rights to our athletes. Clark’s pump and Shop doesn’t want to compete with Crocs and Under Armor. Then our partner companies probably kick back money to Mitch and his merry band of trustees.
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