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<blockquote data-quote="Samuel S" data-source="post: 129419354" data-attributes="member: 1754664">The best way to measure defenses is by the points allowed. Until we stop keeping score by points and start deciding games by yards that will always be far more important. You would need to filter out points scored by opposing defenses and special teams but the ultimate goal of a defense is to prevent the other team from scoring.For instance many&nbsp; people do say Baylor has&nbsp; not been very good on defense. That in its last 4 bowl games it has surrendered 176 points tends to support that thesis.That those bowl games encompass all THREE of the&nbsp; OOC Power 5 game Baylor has played during&nbsp; 2011-15 also tends to support the argument it schedules so weakly it should be viewed with skepticism (not to mention that one of those Bowl games was against UCF and it LOST by giving up 52 points). When one of the best teams in your league has given up an average of 44 ppg in its last 4 games against good OOC competition, the&nbsp; reason why the conference's defensive prowess is doubted seems obvious.&nbsp; Is Baylor an anomalous bad defense in the Big 12? Texas has lost its last 7 games to OOC competition in the P5 =ND and BYU, giving up over 36 points a game. OSU has gone 2-3 in its last 5 giving up over 32ppg.&nbsp; By contrast, OU plays tougher OOC schedules, has a winning record against OOC teams recently (6-3 from 2011-15-- playing 3x the number Baylor plays) and allowed only 24.8 ppg. While its name is part of the reason OU gets more respect, it also has earned it objectively. TCU might have a legit beef about defense, although it has only played three OOC Power 5 games in the last three seasons, it has won them all and given up only 9 ppg. (2 of them against Minn. which averages 21.8 ppg )</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Samuel S, post: 129419354, member: 1754664"] The best way to measure defenses is by the points allowed. Until we stop keeping score by points and start deciding games by yards that will always be far more important. You would need to filter out points scored by opposing defenses and special teams but the ultimate goal of a defense is to prevent the other team from scoring. For instance many people do say Baylor has not been very good on defense. That in its last 4 bowl games it has surrendered 176 points tends to support that thesis. That those bowl games encompass [B] all THREE[/B] of the OOC Power 5 game Baylor has played during 2011-15 also tends to support the argument it schedules so weakly it should be viewed with skepticism (not to mention that one of those Bowl games was against UCF and it LOST by giving up 52 points). When one of the best teams in your league has given up an average of 44 ppg in its last 4 games against good OOC competition, the reason why the conference's defensive prowess is doubted seems obvious. Is Baylor an anomalous bad defense in the Big 12? Texas has lost its last 7 games to OOC competition in the P5 =ND and BYU, giving up over 36 points a game. OSU has gone 2-3 in its last 5 giving up over 32ppg. By contrast, OU plays tougher OOC schedules, has a winning record against OOC teams recently (6-3 from 2011-15-- playing [B]3x[/B] the number Baylor plays) and allowed only 24.8 ppg. While its name is part of the reason OU gets more respect, it also has earned it objectively. TCU might have a legit beef about defense, although it has only played three OOC Power 5 games in the last three seasons, it has won them all and given up only 9 ppg. (2 of them against Minn. which averages 21.8 ppg ) [/QUOTE]

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