Joey Porter opts out of bowl - Declares for NFL

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I think most would agree he's in the top 5 best corners to come out of PSU. Maybe top 2 or 3. What's with the doubted nonsense? He's 1st or 2nd round in the draft. Do you follow the games or just preach? The Willard Preacher is looking for a sidekick. It might be more your speed.
Would not mind seeing him in Steeler Black and Gold.
 

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Lots of praise on here for a guy quitting on his team. The brainwashing by the woke sports media is obviously working quite well.

This is nothing to be celebrated. After all of the training, coaching, exposure he has gotten though Penn State (not to mention free tuition, room and board) this is a shameful thing to do. It is a selfish act.
 

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Lots of praise on here for a guy quitting on his team. The brainwashing by the woke sports media is obviously working quite well.

This is nothing to be celebrated. After all of the training, coaching, exposure he has gotten though Penn State (not to mention free tuition, room and board) this is a shameful thing to do. It is a selfish act.
PSU ain't paying him to play in a bowl game. Life sucks and then you get a bowl of Cream of Wheat.
 

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Lots of praise on here for a guy quitting on his team. The brainwashing by the woke sports media is obviously working quite well.

This is nothing to be celebrated. After all of the training, coaching, exposure he has gotten though Penn State (not to mention free tuition, room and board) this is a shameful thing to do. It is a selfish act.

I mean, he's like three weeks removed from an appendectomy. If there's one place we can afford an opt out in it's in our secondary. JPJr will hopefully do for us at DB what Saquon and Miles have done at RB and Parsons is doing at LB (noting the LB lineage is already VAUNTED!).
 

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I mean, he's like three weeks removed from an appendectomy. If there's one place we can afford an opt out in it's in our secondary. JPJr will hopefully do for us at DB what Saquon and Miles have done at RB and Parsons is doing at LB (noting the LB lineage is already VAUNTED!).


Well, he would be seven weeks removed by the bowl game.

I certainly hope he has a long and healthy career in the NFL but wish he would have played in the bowl game with his teammates.
 

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Well, he would be seven weeks removed by the bowl game.

I certainly hope he has a long and healthy career in the NFL but wish he would have played in the bowl game with his teammates.

Winning bowls isn’t as important as it used to be. Getting to them still is though. He helped get us to a NY6 - works for me.
 
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Lots of praise on here for a guy quitting on his team. The brainwashing by the woke sports media is obviously working quite well.

This is nothing to be celebrated. After all of the training, coaching, exposure he has gotten though Penn State (not to mention free tuition, room and board) this is a shameful thing to do. It is a selfish act.
Being woke is maximizing your income? Hmmmm. I view that as a conservative thing to do. Look out for yourself. Who cares about anyone else?
 

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Could have used Porter in the bowl game- he got alot better this year, Good luck to him should be a first rounder.
 

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Porter will hopefully have a nice, long NFL career. Good luck to him.
Here is my question, not specifically about Porter but the practice of sitting out the bowl game in general. Why do guys skip the bowl game? Why not bail out halfway through the season if it’s about not risking injury? If skipping postseason games is worth it because of the injury risk, shouldn’t there be players skipping these upcoming playoff games as well?
 
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Porter will hopefully have a nice, long NFL career. Good luck to him.
Here is my question, not specifically about Porter but the practice of sitting out the bowl game in general. Why do guys skip the bowl game? Why not bail out halfway through the season if it’s about not risking injury? If skipping postseason games is worth it because of the injury risk, shouldn’t there be players skipping these upcoming playoff games as well?
It's already happened (regular season not playoff) and you don't need to look any further than our own 2020 Penn State team to see it in real life. It will become more commonplace as we move to the future.
 
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It's already happened (regular seasone not playoff) and you don't need to look any further than our own 2020 Penn State team to see it in real life. It will become more commonplace as we move to the future.
That season was a different ballgame though.
I guess my question is more for the the people that applaud this decision by Porter (and others in his situation). Would they applaud it if he was sitting out the playoffs to prepare for the draft?
 

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That season was a different ballgame though.
I guess my question is more for the the people that applaud this decision by Porter (and others in his situation). Would they applaud it if he was sitting out the playoffs to prepare for the draft?

 

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Porter will hopefully have a nice, long NFL career. Good luck to him.
Here is my question, not specifically about Porter but the practice of sitting out the bowl game in general. Why do guys skip the bowl game? Why not bail out halfway through the season if it’s about not risking injury? If skipping postseason games is worth it because of the injury risk, shouldn’t there be players skipping these upcoming playoff games as well?
they sit out because its cool, makes them seem important. To the other its coming.
 
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Lots of praise on here for a guy quitting on his team. The brainwashing by the woke sports media is obviously working quite well.

This is nothing to be celebrated. After all of the training, coaching, exposure he has gotten though Penn State (not to mention free tuition, room and board) this is a shameful thing to do. It is a selfish act.

At this point any time someone accuses someone or something of being woke it just means “I’m mad but I don’t know why. I never learned how to deal with my emotions.”
 

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they sit out because its cool, makes them seem important.
Jake Butt says hi. All-American, Mackey Award winner, tore his ACL in a bowl game, went from a late 1st round, early second round draft pick to a fifth round pick.
 

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Lots of praise on here for a guy quitting on his team. The brainwashing by the woke sports media is obviously working quite well.

This is nothing to be celebrated. After all of the training, coaching, exposure he has gotten though Penn State (not to mention free tuition, room and board) this is a shameful thing to do. It is a selfish act.
I think it would be best if you just stop following college football. Your fake outrage would better focused elsewhere.
 

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Jake Butt says hi. All-American, Mackey Award winner, tore his ACL in a bowl game, went from a late 1st round, early second round draft pick to a fifth round pick.

Again - pay players directly, make them sign contracts. I get opting out, but should be a way to make bowl games worth playing for these guys.
 

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Jake Butt says hi. All-American, Mackey Award winner, tore his ACL in a bowl game, went from a late 1st round, early second round draft pick to a fifth round pick.
No really. He was never mentioned in the first round. He was at best a second rounder. After his. Injury ‘At the conclusion of the pre-draft process, Butt was projected to be a second or third round pick by NFL draft experts and scouts’
So he drops to the 5th. Why? The injury? As noted above the experts still had him 2 3 rd round.
Further the process worked. Butt reportedly received a $543,000 payout due to a loss-of-value insurance claim he received due to his ACL injury. The loss-of-value insurance was a rider on top of a disability insurance that Butt bought prior to the draft that would pay out if he was not picked in the top half of the third round due to injury.[30][31][32]
Lots of guys playing in the NFL AFTER ACL surgery. Maybe he didn’t rehab as hard as needed
 

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No really. He was never mentioned in the first round. He was at best a second rounder. After his. Injury ‘At the conclusion of the pre-draft process, Butt was projected to be a second or third round pick by NFL draft experts and scouts’
So he drops to the 5th. Why? The injury? As noted above the experts still had him 2 3 rd round.
Further the process worked. Butt reportedly received a $543,000 payout due to a loss-of-value insurance claim he received due to his ACL injury. The loss-of-value insurance was a rider on top of a disability insurance that Butt bought prior to the draft that would pay out if he was not picked in the top half of the third round due to injury.[30][31][32]
Lots of guys playing in the NFL AFTER ACL surgery. Maybe he didn’t rehab as hard as needed
Still, you said that players sit out bowl games just to get attention. The potential for injury in a bowl game that has no impact on a championship is a motivation to sit out.
 

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Still, you said that players sit out bowl games just to get attention. The potential for injury in a bowl game that has no impact on a championship is a motivation to sit out.
There’s potential for injury in every game so if worries why play at all?? Let’s face ever game they play is meaningless. Unless of course the player attaches some meaning to it
 

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There’s potential for injury in every game so if worries why play at all?? Let’s face ever game they play is meaningless. Unless of course the player attaches some meaning to it
You keep moving the goalposts. First you said that the players who sit out did it because of attention, with no mention of trying to avoid injury. Here you’re basically acknowledging my point that players do it to preserve their NFL earnings potential by avoiding injury. You just made my point. If you want to say that it’s a mistake, or inappropriate, for players to opt out for fear of injury, fine, but that wasn’t your original point, and it wasn’t what I was responding to.
 

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You keep moving the goalposts. First you said that the players who sit out did it because of attention, with no mention of trying to avoid injury. Here you’re basically acknowledging my point that players do it to preserve their NFL earnings potential by avoiding injury. You just made my point. If you want to say that it’s a mistake, or inappropriate, for players to opt out for fear of injury, fine, but that wasn’t your original point, and it wasn’t what I was responding to.
Ok great
 
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Jake Butt says hi. All-American, Mackey Award winner, tore his ACL in a bowl game, went from a late 1st round, early second round draft pick to a fifth round pick.
That’s kind of my question though. If he were to blow his knee out with three weeks left in the season, shouldn’t he have shut it down after half a season?
 
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Again - pay players directly, make them sign contracts. I get opting out, but should be a way to make bowl games worth playing for these guys.
I posted this over on the pay board:

Use some of the bowl money to pay the players to play in it. It's not that hard.

Article updated in 2017 so these $ numbers are likely much more :

 
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Try and make them play any way you want....all you're gonna do is create a slew of bowl game first play game ending "injuries"
 
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Still, you said that players sit out bowl games just to get attention. The potential for injury in a bowl game that has no impact on a championship is a motivation to sit out.
Why does the championship matter either? If it’s about personal safety and future earnings, you should sit out no matter is at stake for the team shouldn’t you?
And before people look at me having issue with Porter and others that are doing this, I don’t really. I just don’t really understand the parameters we seem to use to be alright with the decision.
 

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