Got it, so they play the least competitive possible come tourney time......because it wouldn't matter if they played better competition .... wow
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But that is the thing… if JM wanted to opt out of the VHSL in basketball, they could. Then they play whoever they want, whenever they want, and as many games as they want with no obligation to the VHSL. It’s never made sense to me why a National caliber team would play a VHSL schedule instead of a more challenging event. Only thing I can figure is to win a state trophy?
I say the boys beat Luray I know nothing shocking. Luray is a really good team and well coached but they can't compete with JM unfortunately, nobody can. Would love to see the upset.
I say CC wins the girls game. I expect Alainah Mckavish to have around 20-25. CC by 10.
I say CC wins the girls game. I expect Alainah Mckavish to have around 20-25. CC by 10.
No it really is that simple. Several VHSL schools already set the precedent of leaving the VHSL in one sport but remaining for the other VHSL sports/activities. Unless JM provides another alternative reason for staying and wasting 3 weeks playing teams they beat by 50+, it’s gotta be about a state title.
Who are these other VHSL schools? I’ve never heard of this before. I don’t like implying that they’re doing this for a state title because they would literally win at every level in the state.
Bland County plays an independent football schedule ( they forfeit any post season play ) while the other sports play per VHSL and can participate in the post season play. They do not play a regular district schedule as in their other sports. They petitioned the VHSL & were granted permission to do this. They’ve done it that way the past two seasons. So it is accurate that it can be done for a single sport while others still participate as normal. There may be other schools elsewhere in VA that do this but Bland is local to my area of the state.
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Nelson County, Rappahannock County, Park View Sterling, Bland County and I believe Manassas Park and Mt Jackson have all done it in the passed.. It’s not that uncommon.
Other than to put a trophy in the showcase and maybe another COY from the VHSL, what benefit is there for JM to play in the VHSL? They sure aren’t challenged in those post season games for 3-4 weeks. They could be playing the Oak Hills, DeMathas, Blue Ridges, etc during that span instead of 50+ point blowouts that don’t improve their players. If there is another reason(s), I’d be curious to hear it.
Just spitballing here now… does their corporate sponsor(s) want that state title for their team resume? Does Team Loaded use the “title” for recruiting? Do they only get to use the JM gym/facilities for Team Loaded if they stay in the VHSL? I have no idea if any of these are the reason so don’t get wound up…just trying to make sense of it.
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You all are terribly naive if you don't believe 14-18 year old's winning a state championship is important to them. They play a tough national schedule true, but no matter how you slice it those state championship rings have meaning. Let's take some focus off of the adults for a second and remember at the end of the day these are (mostly) underprivileged kids you are talking about. Holding up that state championship trophy has big meaning to them.
Sure it does or should. No argument there. But they could be playing for championships at the schools that they transferred from instead of for their AAU team. There is a reason there is only ONE public school basketball program doing what this one does. I don’t know what it could be other than the easy state championship.
Serious question here…what do you mean by “underprivileged”? In all the posts about this over the years, I don’t recall that ever coming up. I miss something?
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They have 5 of them living in a condo together in Richmond. Doesn't sound too underprivileged to me. Lol
The school is small & barely could field team. They even canceled season Two think twitter or three times in recent years. They were granted permission to play a nontraditional non district schools but in similar in size & situation such as Hurley. They even play a team of homeschooled students if I’m not mistaken schools from WV & KY. They are trying to build a stronger program after the team folded. This past season they had some close games and even won a game.
Those kids are most likely living in some form of poverty. It just is what is in Richmond city. Don't need to go much deeper. If you've ever looked at my post, I agree the VHSL should let them move up. But understanding where they come from I wouldn't take their championship opportunity away.
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I get it if those kids on that team are predominantly originally from the Richmond Metro area. But I see posts where they transfer from other states and other cities. It’s not like this is a homegrown team. Or is that not correct?
It’s easy to see the Dennis Parker’s’, Zay Todd’s, Rose Wheeler’s, but think about how the success helped with opportunities for the Willie Magnum’s, Demarr Mcraes’, Malachi Dark’s, Elijah Stewards’ and Lavar Allen’s’ of the world. A few of them young brothers were Gilpin Court born and raised. Real success stories.
I don’t think this is one of those Coach Carter movie situations.
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They're the premier program so a couple of guys transfer in every year. No denying that. But these are majority Richmond kids. Richmond has some type of open enrollment so I'll even say they might not 100% be John Marshall zone but still definitely Richmond city.
Still not sure they’re beating Wise. They didn’t last year and IMO this Central team is better.
Agreed. Wise is just a juggernaut and Robin Dotson is one of the best coaches in the entire state for any classification, boys or girls.
If Ty White moves down the road to Petersburg & takes most of the John Marshall team with him, hypothetically speaking, does Petersburg get the same sanctions as the football team that did practically the same thing?
Not sure about this incident but I would imagine since Petersburg is a 1 school city with no enrollment loopholes like Richmond they won't be able replicate quite the level of what's going on now. They will definitely have to prove residence in Petersburg city.(hopefully anyway)
No way all of those kids can legitimately move to Petersburg with a parent, after they just moved to Richmond (If that's what has really happened). All of their parents must be very well off and can afford to juggle housing until their current living situation is changed. VHSL would need to take a deep dive (which they already need to do) into the legitimacy of the moves. Local School officials are supposed to verify addresses, but if a bunch of players move from one city to a nearby city, it definitely should be looked into. If it's not looked into, that's just the VHSL not giving a crap about their own rules.
Being from the Hopewell/Petersburg area I don't see that happening. Not to say that a couple of aau players my still come but not 7 or 8. Plus Petersburg has their own home grown kids in their system.
Interesting presser post game, Ty White deflected perfectly when asked about rumors. Gotta give him credit for wanting the focus to be on his players in that moment.
Well, the VHSL has shown NO desire to tackle the obvious issues at JM so why would they care if Team Loaded moves their base to another locale? The VHSL demonstrated their hypocrisy when they took action against Hayfield football but does nothing with JM basketball. I’d be embarrassed to be an employee at the VHSL…
the interesting thing is JM is on the agenda of the VHSL Executive agenda and has been since last fall. They have not gotten to them (and several other things - yet). Hopefully in May! The interesting thing is there is nobody scheduled to speak from the public NOBODY. I would have thought some of you Class 2 internet cowboys would be there.
Well, it's a 5 hour drive for me. But, when I know for sure it's going to be on the agenda, please post it and I'll be there.
I don’t know much about the Executive Committee & how meetings are conducted. Is that normal to have something on the agenda for months and not address it?
actually they like to change their meeting place so I will keep you posted as May gets closer.
This isn’t a “class 2” issue…it’s a VHSL issue where only ONE team in the Commonwealth is allowed to operate in contraindication to all other programs.
It didn’t take the VHSL months to address the Hayfield football matter. Maybe Overton should have consulted with Team Loaded?
I cannot find anything anywhere on the VHSL site indicating that JM is on any agenda at: https://www.vhsl.org/executive-committee/agendas-highlights-minutes/
You got a different source or link? I think there would be many, myself included, who would love to get on the agenda to discuss.
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Another scenario also going around is consolidating a couple of Richmond’s high schools. If that happens, the consolidated HS will go to Class AAA. Current players from the other high school not named John Marshall probably won’t even be on the new “consolidated “ hs team if that happens.
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I saw where Troy Henderson committed to Tennessee! Wish him well especially since I’m a Vols fan.
Well from my understanding the transfer policies rules are changing, if true kids will be staying home if they can't play until a year after transferring. Is this
.Was this passed already?Well from my understanding the transfer policies rules are changing, if true kids will be staying home if they can't play until a year after transferring. Is this