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What team sport National Championship does Ole Miss have? I must have missed it.
 
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They got themselves a crootin championship

Which they will tell you is much more prestigious than a baseball national title. Just ask one.
 
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Wish we would have taken the same route they did

and have our '41 team find a way to get recognized as national champions by Cat Fancy Magazine or Worcestershire Gentleman's Quarterly.
 
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Enough mocking. The prestigious,
Berryman, Dunkel, Sagarin; Billingsley, Football Writers, Dunkel, DeVold, Football Research, Williamson; and finally Litkenhous will tell you that they though Ole Miss was the #1 in 1959, 1960 and 1962 respectively. Nevermind that they didn't finish higher than #2 in any year in the final silly little AP rankings or coaches rankings. They are claiming it!
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This should tell you all you need to know:

"Ole Miss is currently the only school that has placed a banner in its stadium commemorating a Co-Divisional Championship that did not result in aSEC Championship Game appearance."

Since we are talking about ancient history anyway, MSU's 1940 team and 1941 teams did well enough to possibly claim a national title, our school just decides not to "claim" one, whereas Ole Miss does "claim" one. Simple fact is that nobody in the State of MS has won a recognized national championship, despite delusional claims to the contrary. If we get into claiming them, we can cite 2 and be just one behind the illustrious football history of the flagship. Of course it's likely that few posting here can remember any of those years...
 
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The Japanese really screwed us. Not only did we not get to play the Orange Bowl, most of the players back then were ROTC and didn't return. The best players went on to play for academies. I believe our fullback went on to finish 2 or 3 for the Heisman with Army.

It's fair to say that we would have been up there with the best of them if that hadn't happened. We were on top of the world against UM and everyone else until that happened........ then we lived a sad and lonely life until Jackie came around.

We shouldn't recognize the title, although we deserve it. In my opinion it's already appropriately recognized... by our fans. True fans know damn well we won that title but never got to claim it because of patriotic duties. Legacy lives on one way or another.

I'd actually be embarrassed if Dan tweeted a picture of a trophy with "national champs" or some **** like Freeze did about seasons most players' parents weren't even alive for.
 
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Ole Miss' excited remembrance of their football glory days makes me wonder if they also get really excited when they get mail from Publishers Clearing House. PCH Envelope: "You may already be a winner!" OM Fan running excitedly into the house: "Honey, PCH says we are a winner!!"
 
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I look it up AP and Coaches poll Minnesota won that ballot not Ole Miss ,They were voted in by AUWW or as a recent poster said The Batesville Garden Club ,so that means Ole Miss did not win **** that year.
 
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JungRebel said:
We have a Grantland Rice trophy, which is the lone MNC we have worth claiming.
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Never heard of it, and it seems like something "the moochers" claim to make them feel good about themselves and their awful athletic history. Keep stealing checks from the SEC.
 
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This is your second time to post this. Your secret rebel is showing.
 
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Just curious about the semantics here...wouldn't being recognized by all of those associations that you listed in your own post be contrary to your "Simple fact is that nobody in the State of MS has won a recognized national championship, despite delusional claims to the contrary" statement. The Football Writers Association was, as I understand it, the most respected group of its time in that era. Your own post seems to contradict your attempted flame. Surely you aren't suggesting that the groups you mention are delusional, right?
 
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Perhaps he's just dealing in fact versus dealing in fantasy. We won a National Championship in Football in 1960. Its a fact. Who else would we have to ask to provide the info that would be a better source than the NCAA?
 
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The NCAA also shows Minnesota as national champions that year. Which is who both the AP and the UPI recognized as national champions.
 
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Or perhaps he's just dealing in a partial fact and omitting the rest of the fact like you are. At best you were co-national champions that year. And the truth is, most people have never heard of the organization that voted you national champions while everyone knows exactly who the organizations that voted Minnesota national champions are.
 
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I'll take co-champs. No disagreement there. The Football Writers Association was reportedly the most reputable association of its time in those yrs. Conversely, nobody in those days had heard of the BCS. Different era, different associations, same responsibility. Deciding vote = NCAA
 
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Because the AP wasn't what it is today in those days, which poll are you referring to? I assume the ones that chose us as NC were the delusional associations, and the ones that didn't were the real polls, huh?
 
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Some one should ask Hugh if they keep those BCS trophies he claimed next to their civil rights achievement awards from the 1960's.
 
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RebFan said:
Just curious about the semantics here...wouldn't being recognized by all of those associations that you listed in your own post be contrary to your "Simple fact is that nobody in the State of MS has won a recognized national championship, despite delusional claims to the contrary" statement. The Football Writers Association was, as I understand it, the most respected group of its time in that era. Your own post seems to contradict your attempted flame. Surely you aren't suggesting that the groups you mention are delusional, right?
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Having a title from "the most respected group of its time" back then is like winning an election with 27% of the vote.

There was nowhere near a consensus.

Ole Miss doesn't have anything half way resembling a national title in anything. But they pump the kool aid anyway - complete with modern era BCS trophies in university graphics.
 
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lol, considering the situation, it certainly would be if it wasn't acknowledged on the NCAA site. Its easy to defend when its listed there. The other 2 we claim are more difficult!!!
 
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I want to know who gave them these Trophies....

 
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I've read further down and seen your multiple responses. Just to simplify:

1) I was mostly just poking fun.

2) I was poking fun because it amuses me to see a subset of Rebel fans hang their entire identity on some debatable national championship claims from a long time ago. This particular part of the fan base does this with such resolve that they've created a mythical OM football superiority that they have then subsequently concluded that this mythical superiority is so great that MSU fans suffer from inferiority. It is comical.

3) When I run across people claiming something that is not actually debatable, I don't. By virtue of the fact that you choose to debate the issue, that alone tells me something about it. For example, if someone were to walk in my office right now and tell me that is was night, I wouldn't argue with them. I KNOW that it is day. I might get them some professional help, but I wouldn't argue about it.

Finally, I'm an MSU fan. Both degrees from there and will always be one. It's because of my love of the "my" university, not anything to do with UM or any other university. I suspect that many UM fans are the same. I really have very little issue with any of my UM alum friends. It's the rest of the fan base that tend to be the biggest problem, not that the university could/should do anything about who just chooses to follow the team for reasons good or bad...
 
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Minnesota actually had a loss that year, we had 1 tie to LSU (Billy Cannon, I believe but might have the yrs mixed up) who we whipped in the Sugar Bowl that same yr...so I guess if you don't choose to believe OM has a NC then surely you can agree that "we were robbed!!!" I hope I've got my yrs right. One might argue that not many AP members outside of the deep south would've voted for OM that yr. Some pretty wild stuff going on that made the national wire that yr. Ya'll hear about that?**
 
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It is on the NCAA website as a list of who got voted what. Let's not act like the NCAA sanctioned a champion. Nobody says that the FWAA didn't vote UM #1, just that Minnesota got all the other #1 votes(including the more readily accepted AP). Yes, UM won the FWAA national championship in 1960. What that's worth is debatable. Hanging an entire universities elitist attitude on it as proof of some storied history is a stretch. My kids voted me "dad of the year" 18 years running, you are probably feeling a bit inferior now, right?
 
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Wrong.....

thinking the men's and women's disc golf teams have won national titles in the last 2-3 years!
 
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Here's the thing with 1960. I know for sure that the AP did their final rankings before the bowl games, not sure about the coaches poll, this didn't change until 1965. Ole Miss finished #2 in both of those polls, even though after the regular season we were 9-0-1 and Minnesota was 8-1. And on top of that Minnesota lost in the rose bowl to finish 8-2, while OM went on to win the sugar bowl and finish 10-0-1.


The NCAA site does give us credit for that year, and if you look at the accomplishments of that team it was well deserved.


I don't really see why it matters anyway, it was so long ago that it doesn't have much bearing on today.


Not trying to stir up any trouble, good luck to y'all tonight.
 
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