I certainly hope so but I don’t think his full game is refined enough for that. I can see NDPOY and leading us to a final 4 with A legit NC opportunity.
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But but but...he was supposed to be fully ready in 6 months.
January should be the target to be fully ready and conditioned to play. If it hasn't happened by then, it's probably not happening. FTR, I think he will be ready.
Yeah that seems to be what all the reports said.. he should be able to play game 1 as he will be doing 5 on 5's fairly soon. Now, that doesn't include potential set backs, and that news was also several months ago now. But I think all signs point to him playing. Maybe with some minute restrictions to start.
My personal opinion is we won’t have him for UL. Just Vibes from what’s been said by Pope. I’m thinking first part of December.
It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where they push December if he's not even currently cleared for live action. Granted, I can see it play out where he's cleared and limited to 5-10 mins/game in Dec. Which, in all honesty, would play well to be fully ready by Jan. I've just kind of operated with that thought process. If he's fully GTG in Jan, he will be a major factor. If he's not, I don't think he'll have much of an impact, if any.
Typical ACL recovery time is 6-9 months, and his surgery was in late March.
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CMP is all about the numbers. He will have him back on the floor when his progress says he should be. Unless Jaden’s camp disagrees. It’s harder for Jayden to sit and wait than it is for us I would imagine. CMP is not the guy who is going to let him sit in the corner on his phone till the doctors say he’s ready tho. I’m sure he has a detailed plan to allow him to learn and gain muscle memory. It’s probably plotted on a spreadsheet. Such a difference from the previous staff.
6 months isn't typical. 8-9 months is typical.
Yeah, it's still more in the 9-12 month range to be FULLY back and recovered. That's why I've always operated on if he's GTG in January, then we probably are fortunate. If he isn't, no big shocker.
I found it odd that everyone was just convinced back in the spring he'd be ready to go for the start of the season. Why? Because his dad said that's what their doctor said. Surely the data from previous injuries mean something. Surely a rational thinking person could deduce what motives his dad would have for saying these things. Just weird how some will ignore numbers and facts and just run with anything anecdotal that makes them feel good.
I'm going to expound a bit on that and I'm well qualified to offer an opinion because I watched the first two seasons of "House".
I believe those averages include all age groups and JQ was 17 when his injury happened(or had just turned 18). One can reasonably expect that somebody JQ's age would get back faster than a 30 year old. (I'm 67; it takes me 6 months to heal from a paper cut.) One would think JQ would not be the type that takes the longest...right? If JQ's recovery time was 7 months that would have him ready for the first game. Now, I don't think he will play that fast because they are going to be super cautious. However, I can't see any upside to keeping him out after he IS ready and I can't see him being one of the ones that need 9 months to get back, so I don't think he'll be out past Dec.1; that's a little over 8 months.
There's honestly not a ton of difference in 18-30 yr old recovery time in elite athletes. I'll be completely honest too, you're a tad naive if you don't think a lot of the professional athletes aren't getting (ahem) some help in their recovery time as well. The severity of the tear and complexity of the repair have far more to do with recovery than the difference between an 18 and 30 yr old, when we are talking about pro athletes. It's also a lot different for a 6'10" basketball player than a 5'8" baseball (or wrestler or even football player). One of the biggest hurdles to get over is the stress test of jumping and landing on the repaired leg. Simple physics will tell you there's far more stress on a player JQs size, than say a short wrestler (who, btw, doesn't jump). IIRC, JQs was a complete tear with the MCL, PCL, and meniscus still in place. That's as clean as it gets, but still you're looking at 99ish % of the elite basketball players of the world taking AT LEAST 8-9 months to get back on the court.
Good post; you're either a doc or you watched "House" more seasons than me. My rebuttal is that JQ is motivated and is a top 1% type beast.
I'm being optimistic because I can't wait to see him play for UK.
Even though I had watched Dr. Kildare and Ben Casey as a youth (most on this site have heard of neither) and recently watched The Pitt on MAX, I had to consult Dr. Google about the chance for recurrent injury. According to him/herr it is about 20-30% in the following two years and this includes a tear in the other leg. Since I believe nothing on the internet I don’t know if this is correct or not. I would love for a true orthopod to give us an opinion on recuperation time and chance for recurrence.
I have mentioned previously that my son as a sophomore last year had a horrible knee injury much like if not worse than JQ’s. He was cleared for 100% full speed and contact in football 6 months to the day of surgery. He actually started running at least 6 weeks prior. We had the former Titans team surgeon who performed it. I’m sure JQ had someone just as good if not better as a surgeon. JQ I guarantee you has had the best possible rehab and care. So based upon our experience with my son it is absolutely possible and even probable that he’s ready to go by the first game.
Nah, just coached HS hoops for 25 yrs now. Have seen far too many of them. Pretty close with all of our ATs and we often discuss the differences over the years. But I'm with you, I want (need) to see that dude protecting the front of the rim for the Cats.
What you seem to have failed to understand when you've repeatedly told this story, your son's case is legit somewhere close to 1/10,000. I think it's awesome your son recovered at the rate he did. That one case by no means makes it "probable" anyone else can repeat that. Possible? Sure, but the data says it's less than a 1% chance of happening.
This article from fb says his dad lied to bbn and we went along with him. Never seen this page before but it doesn’t seem good. I don’t expect him to play this year after reading this
brobible.com
Kentucky Transfer Jayden Quaintance's Dad Lied About His Son's ACL Injury Amid Major Growth Spurt
Jayden Quaintance is not yet cleared to play college basketball at Kentucky. His father blatantly lied about the extent of his son's ACL injury before he
brobible.com
What a smear article! His dad said he expected JQ to be cleared for full contact play in September. My calender says there are 18 more days left in September and, even if JQ does not get cleared by the end of this month, having optimistic hopes for his son's recovery does not equal an outright lie as claimed in the article. There is a huge difference between "I expect him to be cleared" and "He will be cleared" or "He has been cleared".This article from fb says his dad lied to bbn and we went along with him. Never seen this page before but it doesn’t seem good. I don’t expect him to play this year after reading this
Kentucky Transfer Jayden Quaintance's Dad Lied About His Son's ACL Injury Amid Major Growth Spurt
Jayden Quaintance is not yet cleared to play college basketball at Kentucky. His father blatantly lied about the extent of his son's ACL injury before he
Also, without evidence of their claim, that’s libel. His dad should sue them. No more “bro Bible” and the world will be a better place for it.
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We’ve been burned by parent/handler before. I will count on him when I see him play. Until then we have to play with what we have. I remember a couple of years ago the Cats were playing extremely well and I even compared their ball movement to the Runts. Everyone kept voicing how good we would be when we got the seven footers playing and I posted (different name, didn’t transfer) that I feared that we might not be as good. I fear the same here if it is well into the year before JQ plays
According to his surgeon my son was typical of the hundreds that this doctor operates on a year. I would expect JQ’s surgeon to be just as good if not better than the one we had, even though he has been the team physician for 3 different NFL teams and 1 NHL team. The right surgeon with the right rehab can do “miracles “. He told us pre surgery that he should be good to go in 6 months.
If the kid plays before Christmas I will be shocked. I'm not sure he will play at all. If he isn't ready by Jan, will Pope be willing to change lineups for last 3td of season. I hope he plays but the fact he isn't cleared for full contact in Sept does not leave me hopeful. The season is just around the corner.
It'll be 6 months post op on September 19. It wouldn't be shocking to get an update soon after the 19th. I wouldn't get worried until we get an update and frankly, I think it'll be a good one. Not much point in speculating at all, right now. I don't know how the growth spurt affects things, if at all. But I think we'll see him in November.
I'd imagine the "growth spurt" is due largely to wearing shoes and a perpetually optimistic and "wonderful" tape measure.