JUCO DE offer?

DudznSudz

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Can anyone tell me about the JUCO DE offer that is on the Rivals front page? The guy looks enormous, and I'd like to know more about him. Apparently he's eligible for 2016.
 
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Maybe it is the #46 jersey, but he reminds me a little of Eric Martin. Martin was a little less nimble, but both play with their hair on fire and have bad intentions when they reach a QB.
 
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inthedeed

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6 - 4, 250, 2 to play 2, 3 different juco's, possible grade/transcipts issues, but from Louisiana background could potentially score very high in football attitude. oh yeah also 4.6 40.
 

HuskerLLM

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6 - 4, 250, 2 to play 2, 3 different juco's, possible grade/transcipts issues, but from Louisiana background could potentially score very high in football attitude. oh yeah also 4.6 40.

Apparantly grades hurdle might have been cleared.
 

inthedeed

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the young man has been bouncing around too much, hope he can get here and have a chance to settle down
 

Cornicator

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The rumors about an offer are not accurate at this time... This kid has some red flags and Nebraska is conducting some due diligence before they officially pull the trigger. He's bounced around a couple different JUCOs the last few years.
 

chicolby

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In general, I like that our team/coaches are looking for the right character guys, but I won't hold it against them to take a flier or two on some questionable character guys (limited of course) when trying to get into the next echelon of competition. Clarifying note: 1) I'm not saying this guy is a character issue and 2) I am not suggesting a wholesale change of letting anyone in, but sometimes these guys can make a difference - and you hope the coaching staff and community can get him to straighten out any issues.
 
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cdriftt24

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If he's been to 3 different JUCO's and is still available this late in the process... there has to be some serious red flags in my opinion. I agree sometimes these players just need the right situation and leadership. I trust this staff to make the right call and if they feel he can help right away and have no issues with his past than I'm all for it... If we could get him and Stevie on the DL that would be a big help this year!!!! He does look like he could do some damage to a QB :) GBR!!!
 

jeans15

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JUCO ain't D1....There are questionable characters all through out junior college, borderline criminals.

The fact that he is still in school says more to me.
 
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All relevant football programs that win at a high level have some questionable guys on the team, doesn't bother me in the least as long as everyone understands up front their is a short leash. Bring in the badasses and take your chances, or lose 5 games every single year with choir boys and live in the past. I vote for the badasses.
 

chicolby

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All relevant football programs that win at a high level have some questionable guys on the team, doesn't bother me in the least as long as everyone understands up front their is a short leash. Bring in the badasses and take your chances, or lose 5 games every single year with choir boys and live in the past. I vote for the badasses.
That's a bit of an exaggeration. I don't think Ohio State, Michigan, Stanford, Alabama have to have "questionable" guys on their team to be successful. But maybe you need them to get into the upper echelon. I think once you've established yourself as a top tier program, you don't have to take as many fliers, but who am I to say. Nebraska's best years certainly had some guys who would be considered questionable characters, so maybe I'm wrong.
 

jeans15

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Sometimes its about attitude more than execution...choir boys don't always have that...they tend to lead by example.
 

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Dude does not skip arm day, I'll tell you that much...

Some nice block shedding on his film. Seems to get his hands and arms engaged to create distance between him and the OL. I see they have him at 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT among other alignments.
 
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That's a bit of an exaggeration. I don't think Ohio State, Michigan, Stanford, Alabama have to have "questionable" guys on their team to be successful. But maybe you need them to get into the upper echelon. I think once you've established yourself as a top tier program, you don't have to take as many fliers, but who am I to say. Nebraska's best years certainly had some guys who would be considered questionable characters, so maybe I'm wrong.


I think you are to be honest. Not saying they have 20 of 'em, but I think they have some loaded guns on their roster they are just hoping don't go off, and aren't the least bit surprised when they do.
 

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Dr. Tom had a few questionable characters on the roster. Lawrence Phillips, Terrell Farley, Thunder Collins and both Peter brothers to just name a few.
 
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DudznSudz

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Yeah, I'm not saying we need to go recruit a bunch of brawlers and thugs, but this is also a violent game where guys who have a bit of nasty to them tend to do well. It's a balancing act. And yes, the whole "Well, Nebraska was always classier" thing has a kernel of truth to it, but it's not that accurate.

I remember reading a review for the 30 For 30 film "The U" on The AV Club, written by a guy who had gone to Miami back in the 90's, who said honestly a huge part of Miami's bad boy reputation was that it was a very, very black program, and there was a hint of racism to that. Granted, Miami players and coaches developed a bad boy culture, sure, but there's a bit of truth there. To quote the author, when referencing the "Catholics Versus Convicts" games Miami used to play with Notre Dame, and how Miami was accused of lacking class by running up the score:

"This accusation, of course, ignored the brutal *** whompings that programs such as Oklahoma and Nebraska (traditionally whiter programs) laid on their opponents on a regular basis."

My point is, as long as the players aren't violent psychopaths who are raping and pillaging their way through our program, I don't mind having a couple of guys who have mean streaks running around. Football is tough, big tough guys play it, and hopefully, they wind up in a better place after the program than they were in before it. Also, I think we have a very positive coaching staff that would definitely help guys develop that way.
 

DudznSudz

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OR, we could just recruit the meanest guys we can find, pump them full of "vitamins," turn them loose on the field, and watch what happens? I mean that could be fun?
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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I agree sometimes these players just need the right situation and leadership.
Having a badass coach who played 12 years in the league who has a stare that could wilt daises, and keeps players after practice for extra work might be the situation he needs. Not to mention LeBlanc nipping at his academic heels daily.
 

nu2u

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JUCO ain't D1....There are questionable characters all through out junior college, borderline criminals

What the heck is a "borderline criminal"? You break the law or you don't; you're either a criminal or you're not. Further, if you're a person that breaks the law but haven't yet been caught, its only a matter of time before you will be caught in which case you wouldn't want him anyway.
 

HuskerO58

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What the heck is a "borderline criminal"? You break the law or you don't; you're either a criminal or you're not. Further, if you're a person that breaks the law but haven't yet been caught, its only a matter of time before you will be caught in which case you wouldn't want him anyway.
I broke the law the other day by driving 3mph over the speed limit. I don't think I'd label myself as a criminal though.
 

Dean Pope

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Can anyone tell me about the JUCO DE offer that is on the Rivals front page? The guy looks enormous, and I'd like to know more about him. Apparently he's eligible for 2016.
Two years eligibility with only three career sacks at juco level? No thanks! He'll take at least a year to learn the system and then is he enough of a difference maker to be worth it? Keep in mind all the time spent coaching him up will be time that could have been invested in good prospects we already have in the program.
 
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What the heck is a "borderline criminal"? You break the law or you don't; you're either a criminal or you're not. Further, if you're a person that breaks the law but haven't yet been caught, its only a matter of time before you will be caught in which case you wouldn't want him anyway.


Well....according to some, you just legalize whatever is illegal and...voila! no more criminals! Easy Peasy and solves all the problems!
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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Two years eligibility with only three career sacks at juco level? No thanks! He'll take at least a year to learn the system and then is he enough of a difference maker to be worth it? Keep in mind all the time spent coaching him up will be time that could have been invested in good prospects we already have in the program.


I suspect the decision regarding whether or not to offer the JUCO was heavily influenced by the staffs evaluation of the prospects (both quality and quantity) we already have in the program