thanks DAN is sarcastic, but Lemonis won a national title. So if McDonnell told us to take a look at Lemonis, I'd say that worked out for us.
I think Lemonis sat on a bucket and watched the team win a Natty. I guess he gets credit for not making bad decisions in that one.
No but Cohen should have still done WAY better than Lemonis.
Out of curiosity, if O’Conner wins the 2028 national title in his 3rd season at MSU, are you just going to say he just sat back and watched Lemonis’ players win a national title?
O'Connor's son just graduated from High School. I suspect having all this kids out of the house made him more open to moving in 2025 than he would have been in 2018.
We don't win that Natty without Will Bednar. Bednar was committed to Ohio State when we hired Lemonis. Lemonis and Foxhall got him to flip to State. Without Lemonis, no Bednar. Without Bednar, no Natty.
I'll give him credit for that but his performance since then makes it look like he just got lucky. I don't dislike the guy at all but I still have that Gene Cizic feeling.
I think it's more that he just got lazy after he won that title.
I think he's better than Chizik. He's a pretty good coach. Our team wasn't terrible this year although I think the cloud over him had them in somewhat of a funk. There was some luck involved, but he was still good enough to take advantage of it. He just wasn't good enough to consistently compete at a high level in the SEC. I think @patdog is probably right that he got complacent and that made it worse, but I think even if he had stayed focused and hungry, I don't think we were ever matching his start.
This just reveals how little you understand what a head coach contributes to a team, especially over a period of more than 1,000 days (Lemonis was on the job for more than 1,000 days when we beat Vanderbilt in Omaha).
Our team was pretty bad this year. A soft schedule really masked how bad it was. 10-19 in Q1 games and only 3-3 in Q2 games. And those are very low bars (top 25 & 50 at home and top 60 & 120 on road). In most games vs good teams, we were completely outclassed. Both of those FSU games could have easily been a lot worse. They left a ton of guys in scoring position in both games, while we pretty much did nothing offensively other than a couple of home runs.
I honestly couldn't care less. He stole money from us for 4 years and is a rich man. I'm just glad he's finally gone.
Should've done the same after Leach's last QB left. Good lord sumbitches here like to beat a dead horse.
This is it. He was great and then he lost it and was not good enough for Mississippi State anymore. It happens all the time. Sometimes people lose their mojo.
Weak excuse. First off….DeBrule, Stone Simmons, and others were immediate eligibilty transfers on the 2021 team. Besides, the transfer portal doesn’t build entire teams. Baseball recruiting cycle is legitimately 3~7 years for every player on any given team, any given year. Even moreso now, with extra years of eligibility being handed out like Oprah hands out iPads.
In today's climate I would be shocked if any players are leftover from 3 years prior.
Any bashing of Lemonis from 2022 to 2025 is absolutely justified.
I'll give him credit for making the right decisions in that year and maybe 1 title is all he wanted but he definitely didn't follow it up with anything to show for it. I'm not going to beat a dead horse. Like I said before, he's gone now, I wish him no ill will and I think we made the right decision for the future.
I dunno… we sнit on Lemonis a lot for winning with Cohen’s and Cann’s players, but we’ve had better coaches NOT win a natty with better players. It’s not like he did nothing to help the team win one.
To be fair, with today's transfer policy will any of those players be around?
This.
If they aren’t, then we aren’t going to be able to field a team….let alone win a national title. Keep in mind that we are going to continue to have Lemonis recruits and commitments filtering into the program for the next 3 years. We can’t just jettison 3 full recruiting classes that aren’t even here yet. And there will be good players in those classes, too.
