Justice Dept sends letter to NCAA asking why no playoff

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system. Feds feel like the BCS might not comply with antitrust laws. Could not get link to work sorry. It's on ESPN's twitter.
 

QuaoarsKing

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Even if you don't want a full-blown 16-team playoff, you've got to see the corruption going on in the BCS and want it to stop.
 

patdog

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The simple answer is an 8-team playoff with the champions of the 6 highest ranked conferences getting a bid, plus the highest ranked champion from another conference and 1 at-large team. 1st round hosted by the 4 highest ranked teams 2 weeks after the conference championship games, the 2nd round on New Years Day and the title game on the 2nd Saturday after New Years. No more ******** from the non-BCS teams, the regular season isn't compromised, few additional games, and everyone's happy.
 

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Instead of granting six conferences an automatic bid, let an RPI type formula be used and the champions from the six highest rated conferences that season get a bid.

Last year using patdog's awesome idea:

The following six conferences were the highest rated:
SEC: Auburn
Big XII: Oklahoma
Big Ten: Ohio State
Pac Ten: Oregon
Big East: Connecticut
ACC: Virginia Tech

Highest Rated Conference champion outside:
WAC: Nevada

Highest Rated Team outside:
TCU

Seeds and Matchups
(1) Auburn vs. (8) Connecticut
(4) Ohio State vs. (5) Oklahoma
(3) TCU vs. (6) Nevada
(2) Oregon vs. (7) Nevada

If you tweaked it and said highest 4 rated conference champions and highest 4 teams that did not win their conference, you'd get:
SEC: Auburn
Big XII: Oklahoma
Big Ten: Ohio State
Pac Ten: Oregon

TCU, LSU, Stanford, Wisconsin

And first round matchups are baseball style - only the top 4 are seeded and the other 4 are geographically matched up for campus sites.
(1) Auburn vs. LSU
(2) Oregon vs. Stanford
(3) TCU vs. Oklahoma
(4) Ohio State vs. Wisconsin
 

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Because the MWC has been better than the ACC and Big East for a while. The WAC was at least better than the Big East this past year (though with the MWC stealing its best teams, that probably won't be the case any longer).<div>
</div><div>I could definitely get onboard the system, though I do think it should be structured so that all 120 (soon to be 124) FBS teams have a chance.</div>
 

patdog

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TCU would have been the highest ranked conference champion outside the top 6 conferences. Stanford would have been the at-large team, as the highest ranked team not getting an automatic bid. Also, I think Wisconsin would have made it instead of Ohio St., since they tied for the Big 10 title and Wisconsin was the higher ranked team at the time. Matchups would have been:

(unranked) UConn at (1) Auburn
(13) VA Tech at (2) Oregon
(7) Oklahoma at (3)TCU
(5) Wisconsin at (4) Stanford

If Oregon and Stanford had been in the same half of the draw, I'd move the lower seeded team up or down 1 to put them in the opposite half.
 

QuaoarsKing

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Let all conference champions have a bid, that way no one can ever complain about getting left out, and higher seeds host until the final game.<div>
</div><div><div>1<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Auburn</div><div>8<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Miami OH</div><div>4<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Oklahoma</div><div>5<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Boise State</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span></div><div>3<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Stanford</div><div>6<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Virginia Tech</div><div>2<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Wisconsin</div><div>7<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Connecticut</div><div>
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</div><div>1<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Oregon</div><div>8<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Florida International</div><div>4<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Michigan State</div><div>5<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Arkansas</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span></div><div>3<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Ohio State</div><div>6<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Nevada</div><div>2<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>TCU</div><div>7<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Central Florida</div></div><div>
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patdog

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that's too many ****** teams in the playoff, and too many games. My format essentially gives everyone a chance at the beginning of the season and keeps the playoffs pretty much limited to the elite teams.
 

8dog

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16 teams is very doable and would be awesome.

There are too many ****** teams in the NCAA basketball tournament too, and its awesome.

Im all for the Wetzel plan.
 

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to get in every once in a while... So, the 2008 TSUN team and our 1999 team may have gotten in the playoffs... I sure would like to think that we don't have to finish in the top 8 to ever have a shot, but I do think we could realistically expect to finish in the top 16 a couple of times per decade.<div>
</div><div>I know no one wants to do this, but I have heard talk of a compromise that gets rid of the conference championship games so some teams don't have that extra game right before the playoffs. I don't love that idea.</div>
 

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or the Sun Belt or any of those other ****** conferences will be a bad thing. The first time USM wins CUSA, lots of State/Ole Miss fans will understand why.
 

8dog

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a horrible point from a general college football perspective and what would generate the most revenue.
 

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my viewpoint is selfish. If a 16 playoff comes to be, we'd be better off in CUSA or the Sun Belt. However, I doubt either would let us in at that point.
 

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We would get a lot less money and lower quality recruits if we joined CUSA/SB, even if we had a better shot at the playoffs for the time being. Soon, we would just become a run of the mill CUSA team.<div>
</div><div>Having said that, a 16-team playoff would require the NCAA to actually enforce the rule about having to have attendance over 15,000. Maybe even raise it to 20K or 25K. That would take care of most of the MAC and Sun Belt right there, leaving the remnants to join CUSA or the WAC.</div>
 

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Since the BCS has started I can only think of one time they got it wrong and it was 2003 when LSU played OK. The AP tried to correct it but it gave us a Split national Championship.That's what the BCS was suspose to stop. I thought that we might have had it this yea with the AP giving it to TCU but it did not happen. As bad as we might think the BCS is screwed it is better then what we had. I think there should be some kind of play off but I really don't want the NCAA running it.</p>
 

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because we see how the lower divisions football playoffs work.<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">
</span></div><div>Also, the fact that the BCS is better than the old system (which, honestly, is debatable) is not a legitimate argument in its favor. I'm sure making out with a 400-pound girl is better than m aking out with a 600-pound girl, but so?</div>
 

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This is not the NFL where you have a draft to try and equalize talent or the NCAA tournament where you have many more teams with much smaller rosters to chose from. You will have the same big name programs, stockpiling the best talent, in a playoff year after year...gaining exposure and $$$ on national TV while we, and others like us, sit at home. Games like the Gator Bowl will cease to exist. Under the present system, we can build a program. In a playoff system, we won't.
 

GloryDawg

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Are you ready for a 10 game season? That's what the Div II has.
Are you ready for no bowl games? NCAA will have full control of the play off and then money comes involved and they will shut down the bowls to stop competition.

Too much money to be lost by everyone but the NCAA. The Universities have to find a way to combine the BCS and a play off and it doesn't seem that hard to do.</p>