kaelin back to NU at qb
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I've been a man for 47 years. Nearly every good choice I've ever made came after I made a poor choice. Its possible that a younger man might learn to bloom where he's planted only after being in a different garden or two. Good on a kid for learning that about life at 20 instead of 50.
Who knows how it goes…we once or twice had coaches that didn’t think Joe Burrow was good enough for us.
It's also possible moving is the best thing for him. If you are in a bad spot, it's crazy not to leave.
I am more excited to have DK back than I am looking forward to the UNLV quarterback. Living on the West Coast I watch more of their games than you Midwest guys. I’ve been in the local tavern when I'm back there and no one is paying attention to the games that start at 9:30 pm Central. Well, I am and thought Colandrea was inconsistent. I would lump him in with K-State's Avery Johnson. I think the way Rhule (chaotically) runs the show, Colandrea has already been giving the starting position, but I hope DK gets a fair shot.
Kurt Rourke had played in 40 games at Ohio and started 36. Coming off back to back 10 win seasons, and went to Indiana to play for one of the most remarkable college coaching stories in history.
If a QB was going to play for Lincoln Riley. Kiffin. Sarkisian or Mike Leach....it wouldnt matter where he came from, you would know he would become a top QB in the conference.
So no, comparing Rourke with Cignetti, isnt a good comp to Colandrea with DH(running our mutant plodding offense).
Unless he has to play and he stinks up the place lol.
I feel you though. Not sure what the fuss is about . We was likely gonna sign his caliber of QB anyways. Only thing question is the fact that he's not our "type" of QB anymore if what's being said about feet as a weapon is true.
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We’ll see about the D. Line. I think a scheme change to a true 4 man front will fit the guys we have much better. I agree they need to prove it but I’m not writing the guys we have off. There’s a reason they fired Bradden immediately after the Iowa game.
Pietrzak is a beast. Nwaneri was a 5 star. RVP is a good player but better fits in a 4 man front. We’ll see if one of our young guys grab the opportunity in front of them. There’s physical talent in that room. Let’s see if there’s the want to.
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DK actually ran it fairly well at Virginia in his limited playing time. IMO Raiola’s problem was more desire versus his foot speed. You don’t have to run a 4.5. DK supposedly is 6’3” and 215 lbs. That’s a positive.
College football players at the age of 23 is bs but the whole system is a cluster F in a few years college football will have players that played in the nfl for two years but college is paying more
Come in and compete. Possibly be the backup. Starter goes down and in you go. Carpe diem
Well good thing we're not comparing Rourke with Cignetti to Colandrea with Rhule.
Shoot, you weren't even comparing Mendoza with Cignetti in your previous post. You were comparing the QB with the previous school they were at. Which is what I ended up doing.
We weren’t going to win many games next year anyway but no Dline means the losses will be more embarrassing when they run right through us.
Which guys could we have realistically gotten at any price? We got a kid with dozens of starts who was his conference’s player of the year. We weren’t getting Sorsby at any price.
Thanks for the info I don’t even need to bother watching
The lack of portal DL recruiting is combined with lack of identifying good HS talent and lack of development of both from year to year. It’s been stagnant on the lines. Hopefully the new line coaches will actually develop what we have, and those guys are capable. It’s been bad so far under Rhule.
Lost me with DRs problem was more desire than foot speed. I can't speak on how he looks running it now (Kaedlin). But compared to Lateef and the new guy they aren't the same type QBs. The skillet doesnt match. How well he does remains to be seen but I trust my eyes.
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I get it. He’s not fast. The deal is he’s 230 lbs. He CAN run and probably run over some DBs. He’s not going to win a foot race to the corner. He doesn’t have to.
Not gonna lie I thought HCMR signed his termination papers when he bet on Butler last year. No way you Hite THAT guy om our situation last year. Imo it was the dumbest move of the year. Franklin's firing and our good early start saved his life last year. The writing is on the wall though. I THINK it bought him 2 years but from what I've seen so far I think next year could be brutal. If we get to 6 I'll be pleasantly surprised. Then in 2027 he will be coaching for his job. Jmo...
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And its still a poor argument, because at Rourkes previous school he had won like 30 games. And numerous 10 win seasons......Colandrea was at UNLV 1 year and his best win was Air Force, and his previous 2 years at the P4 lol UVA, he was ****....
Per an AI summary. Carson Beck at 4.3M is the 3rd highest paid QB. Lets just assume thats fairly accurate.
You are trying to make the Argument that if we paid a QB $4M that we couldnt have signed all but maybe the top handful of QBs?
Im sorry, but see the entire portal nightmare as proof that you're wrong. There are 4000 examples of kids passing up loyalty or even stable money/depth chart position, for a pay day.
And the entire premise of my argument isn't that we should be reckless with money on college players and outbid everyone with money we dont have......but our AD was already reckless with the money on Rhules extensionon. So the math equation for me is: spend $4M on a QB, or spend $50M on a buyout next year.
We are not just going to start conflating arguments and twisting naratives.
This guy wanted to make the "sign a baller from a small school" argument.......I pointed out that this small school, and small sample size, played absolutely nobody with a pulse.
Then he tried to compare it to Mendoza, and then Curtis Rourke....and I explained that those were horrible comps. The end.
If you want to make a new argument, that: "He wasnt solely responsible for the losses and ****** numbers at UVA, because he's only as good as the guys around him."......That seems like a pretty stupid ******* argument considering that UVA team just won 11 games this year. Lol clearly there is/was some talent around him.
There are probably 25 teams that are able to pay $4M that are more attractive options than NU, and far fewer QBs worth anywhere near that. The top guys have options, and unless there is an unusual personal connection, we aren't getting them.
Look at where the top portal QBs have signed. It hasn’t been at 7 win teams. Believe it or not, top QBs want to win and enhance their chances in the draft.
I expressed my disdain for that extension when it happened. It’s done. What are you going to do about it now.
Can you please clarify what we are and are not allowed to talk about on this board? Because it seems as though you don't think we should talk about anything that we can't control. But it seems to me that would literally eliminate every single topic. And there wouldn't even be a board if that were the case. So, is it just positive things we can't control that should be allowed? Again, won't be a whole lot left to discuss if that's the case. Or are we only allowed to discuss a negative reality one time? And the rest has to either be positive or fantasy? I'm genuinely curious what you think the actual parameters should be?
Chicken meets egg.....last year we didnt spend on the guys we needed, and now this year we are an even less attractive transfer destination for top players, because of that decision. This year maybe we overspend, but we make ourselves a bit more marketable for the following year.
Every year we wait, is less and less momentum Rhule has. And more and more frustration from fans and boosters.....plus we wasted some pretty easy schedules.
Its getting down to an all in, or all out situation. Either we draw back all funding and let Rhule wither and die, or if we believe in him, we let the money flow, overspending or not......We are picking the worst of both if we chose to overpay/increase Rhules buyout, but then wont pay players while simultaneously losing more games and uglier games and becoming a less attractive destination to top players.
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are you high? I just made a thread about a NU qb signing securing 3 qb's for next year, and it turned into bunch of negative nancys crying around..instead of crying on every thread just make 1 thread , the crying thread...
There is nothing to believe. Yes they want to win....but there arent 7 win teams out there paying top 3 money either.
I wish we didnt have to spend that, but when you hire bad coaches, recruit the wrong players, and waste easy schedules with modest W/L totals.....our current option is overspend to steal talent across the board, or face a pending buyout. I dont know where the breakeven point on that is, but to extend the contract and buyout and then cut off the money supply for players...you are just lighting money on fire and flipping the bird to your fan base and boosters simultaneously
I am not the one who said we now have the money to get whoever we want....
YOU'RE the one who brought up the argument that it mattered which conference these players were coming from.
Mountain West and the MAC are equal.
Now you're adding in other variables to your argument that you didn't originally bring up. Such as # of wins at their previous schools and who they beat.
The former you cant truly compare because Colandrea didnt play 20+ games at UNLV like Rourke did. Rourke had 5 years at Ohio (playing 4) and won 21, not 30.
What was Rouke's best win before he went to Indiana? 7-6 Iowa St. Colandrea beat a #18 Pitt.
I'm not saying Colandrea is better than Rourke, but they are a similar comparison in the fact that they both came from G5 schools (which seemed to matter to you when you brought up Mendoza/Colandrea comparison), found success there and are now moving up to a P5 school.
That's exactly the point. What are you gonna do?
You can cut off the player money and let the teams talent be siphoned away via poor recruiting, 6-7 win seasons and transfers out.....and then lose more games and pay the buyout.
Or you can embrace your stupidity, and back up Rhules extension with an open checkbook for players.
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