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God does not cause miscarriages. Reading comprehension would do you good or, you are just a jerk trying to conflate the issue.
Sure he does. It is his will, is it not? Doesn't god create us all ? If the women did not want to miscarry and prayed about not miscarrying, why did she miscarry? I mean god answers prayers, right? So why did God not prevent the miscarriage?
 
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There are a bunch more like this but, the point was also pulling the race card but, you knew this too. Hypocrite.
Sure seems odd he was so anti white but had all these white people working for and with him. Sure seems odd he would be okay with his daughter dating a white man if he was so anti white.
 
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George Zimmerman was not a police officer , someone died that sucks there are laws against shooting people . Why is this any different than the hundreds of young black men who are going to get murdered this weekend in the usa
It's not they all need to be treated with the same amount of intensity. A cop shoots a black kid? Throw his *** in prison for life. A dude whos out on neighborhood watch and shoots an unarmed black man should spend the rest of his life in prison.
 

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It's not they all need to be treated with the same amount of intensity. A cop shoots a black kid? Throw his *** in prison for life. A dude whos out on neighborhood watch and shoots an unarmed black man should spend the rest of his life in prison.
unarmed kid, the minute people start adding race as some sort of factor is bogus. Man shoots unarmed teen . Period.
 

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unarmed kid, the minute people start adding race as some sort of factor is bogus. Man shoots unarmed teen . Period.
Because being black is why he was targeted, profiled, confronted and eventually shot and killed. In the exact same scenario, if the victim was white, Zimmerman never would have followed, confronted or killed him. That is why race is a factor and likely the biggest factor. I know as a white man you will never understand why that is or see it for the issue it is. When people are targeted in a country in 2019 simply because of their skin color, it is an issue that needs to be addressed, we are sorry it makes you uncomfortable, but there is a reason it does.
 

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unarmed kid, the minute people start adding race as some sort of factor is bogus. Man shoots unarmed teen . Period.
And he should've been put in prison for life. I say unarmed black kid because we are white and we get the privilege to let our kids go out at night into the dark without immediately being shot and killed on sight. Whats bogus is you know this lol. You know your child will be okay in the grand scheme of things when they leave the house. Black parents could never be so lucky.
 
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I don't think you understand what kind of jobs these are. These are sweat factories where they manufacture clothing apparel and goods. These are low skilled, low income jobs that pay cents on the dollar. That isn't going to change. If they bring the jobs to America, Nike would only be able to employee a handful of the workers even just paying them minimum wage. This would not create jobs, it would in fact eliminate them as Nike would go bankrupt and be lay off the thousands they currently do employee in the US in their stores, outlets and corporate offices. You would be creating a bigger mess instead of fixing one.

This country will get better when it takes responsibility for its past and works to make a better future. Racism is still a problem in 2019. Ignoring it, blaming black people and liberals for it, saying it's not as bad as it was 60 years ago isn't going to solve it. Admit, address it and move past it. Stop sweeping it other the rug and blaming everyone and everything else for it. Fix it!! That is how you make it go away.

Sure he has. You can defend the man all you want. Fact is he is taking advantage of a system and people that made him incredibly wealthy and he has somehow convinced masses that it is really okay and they are ignorant enough to believe he would just change all that if he could. All while he continues to grow his business and wealth even more. Not only are you morons okay with it, you literally defend him for it.

I'll take a 100 jobs in Gary Indiana in place of 2,000 jobs in Indonesia.

"It'll cost too much" isn't sufficient. That's just rich people, boards of directors, and upper management bitching about overhead and how shareholders would react. Too bad. Find a way.

That's also where tax cuts come in and why they'll never go away, and probably have to be sweeter than what they are. The regulatory and tax environment is not as friendly as a lot of places around the globe. So, to get companies to come back and employ people stateside, we the public are going to have to concede some things on our end. Rich folks and their corporations are going to get a tax break. They probably shouldn't be required to provide a lot of things other than fair pay and basic benefits.

Racism has been a problem since people evolved on this earth. It's not a white thing, its a human thing. WASPy people did not invent slavery, I dare say that it originated in Africa. Societies are built on forced labor, skulls, bones, blood, tears, mistakes, horrors, etc.

How would you like people who committed no atrocities to atone for them? Please, lay out a logical plan. We can't move past it if you and others bring it up every political cycle. We can't move past it if screaming bloody murder at every relic from the past is encouraged. We can't move past it if people are going to raise holy hell at everything American like flags, statues, history books, too many white people in one room or on a TV show, etc...Better bring down the Pyramids, they were built by slaves. Better protest China, Mexico, Central America, and every other country on the map for all of their past wrongdoings.

Don't tell me to stop sweeping it under the rug, when I didn't make the mess. Again, nobody alive today did.

One way the plight of the African American improves is through opportunity. Nike and all other American companies that have more jobs overseas than necessary can improve opportunity and living conditions via jobs. Get woke and go wail to them. Looking at the blue collar, middle class, everyday Americans and calling them racist isn't going to solve the problem. Those people face many of the same problems as the black community. Drugs, lack of opportunity, violence, broken homes, dependence on government, and on and on...

You keep bringing up Trump. Yes, he has benefited from cheap labor, what the hell else do you want me to say? He can bring all his production back to the states along with Apple, Nike, and everyone else. He can hire Americans as opposed to cheap illegal immigrants as well. But it's not going to happen until it becomes mandatory.

The masses don't think all of the ways in which Trump accumulated wealth are okay, that's not why they voted for him. Just like people didn't vote for Kennedy nor Clinton because they were saints. They voted for Trump because he was the better of the two options and overall his America first platform is the greatest good for the greatest number.

I can't do anything about Trump's shortcomings, nor can the masses that will vote for him because the liberals will put forth an inferior candidate and platform that is more concerned about non-citizens and all the things we can provide for them.

Again, I did not join this thread because of Trump. I joined because of Kap and Nike.

If you want Trump out of office, great. Find a party, candidate, and platform that is better, more pro everyday, legal, common, hardworking, blue collar American.
 

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First off, I think you are getting your stats for unmarried and absentee mixed up. There is a difference. Second, no one is ignoring it, it is an issue in the black community, but not the rate you seem to beleive. I am still not sure how you get blaming black people for racism and slavery or somehow think that since black men walk away more often that somehoe negates those. How will more black dads staying around somehow undo slavery and racism?



Slavery is honestly a discussion for the history books at this point. Every race, gender, religion, etc has been persecuted at some point in time throughout history. Black people are no exception, but slavery is not a thing in today's country. A greater focus on family values will help with a lot of perceived racism in today's society. One example is the incarceration rate when compared to other ethnicities. If children had a steady and positive father figure in their life, they are far less likely to end up incarcerated no matter the race or gender. Instead of focusing on the cause, people just like to say its systemic racism, which shockingly never solves the issue...
 
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Sounds like a very racist thing to say.

Sounds like you have a lot of experince wanting sonething for nothing to know so much about it.

It's even funnier when you consider it was white people who made blacks work for nothing for centuries. :flushed: Ohhh, the irony.

A couple points...

I am not much on name calling but, if that is your take from what I posted there is not much difference between you and a fool.

Grow up in my shoes and state that again. You cannot. (Suffice it to state that you cannot do that if you could have grown up in my shoes.)

I think it is more that you are 'just" a trouble-maker. (That is a very horrible thing to be.)

I don't need irony or face's to state what is obvious. (You would not understand or know irony if it hit you like an iron. You assume or fabricate too much to be taken seriously.)

I never made a black person or any person do anything in my life other than my children. Have you made someone do something other than your children? Do you know someone who has made someone do something (unless they guard prisoners)? If so please get away from them and do not associate with them. Also turn them in to the authorities, it is illegal.

You really lose royally but you will find that out when you least expect it and can least afford it, it may already be too late for you. (That should be a sobering comment to you but I doubt it will be. That is the shame of it all.)
 
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"It was usually an effective tactic, another one of those tricks I had learned: (White) People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. They were more than satisfied, they were relieved -- such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't seem angry all the time." -- Barack Obama

"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person..." -- Barack Obama

I don’t believe it is possible to transcend race in this country. Race is a factor in this society. The legacy of Jim Crow and slavery has not gone away. It is not an accident that African-Americans experience high crime rates, are poor, and have less wealth. It is a direct result of our racial history." -- Barack Obama

) "That's just how white folks will do you. It wasn't merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. It was a particular brand of arrogance, an obtuseness in otherwise sane people that brought forth our bitter laughter. It was as if whites didn't know that they were being cruel in the first place. Or at least thought you deserving of their scorn." -- Barack Obama

If I would've known he made those comments, I wouldn't have voted for him.


He's dating a muslim woman who condemns gays. He's converted to islam.

That's the genesis of most of this... there is a very strong anti-American and ant-British thread and sentiment amoung black muslims because the Arab world blame all their problems on imperialism and western blacks onpast injustices and the oppressive whites. Those poeple are a threat to our society.

Racially mixed individuals in America can also go through an identity crisis and can identify one side as bad and the other good, allowing them to be susceptible to the lies of racialism and systemic oppression. It's all very unfortunate.

The proper way forward is for those communities to look to better leaders from within them, successful people who are of higher character that see through the lies, exploitation and propaganda.
 

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And he should've been put in prison for life. I say unarmed black kid because we are white and we get the privilege to let our kids go out at night into the dark without immediately being shot and killed on sight. Whats bogus is you know this lol. You know your child will be okay in the grand scheme of things when they leave the house. Black parents could never be so lucky.
That is our privelege are you serious , you suffer from white guilt syndrome buddy and you probably have a lot more common sense than these fools fighting over respect, i am the reason I do not get caught up in stupid **** my good decisions dictate that , has nothing to do with privelege over skin color. .. there are a lot of inconvenient truths out there regarding race ... biological truths that don’t jive with equality
 
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And business is good....

booming!

I wonder what happens to these shoes that go unworn? Thrown away?

Give them to Domenican or Jamaican children; think they have the luxury to be concerned what flag is on them? No, they'd cherish every moment with them while you complain about nothing.
 

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That is our privelege are you serious , you suffer from white guilt syndrome buddy and you probably have a lot more common sense than these fools fighting over respect, i am the reason I do not get caught up in stupid **** my good decisions dictate that , has nothing to do with privelege over skin color. .. there are a lot of inconvenient truths out there regarding race ... biological truths that don’t jive with equality
You're blinded by the lifestyle you live. Where I come from you see this bs everyday. We were all troubled kids growing up. I watched my own friends of color get taken away by cops for doing exactly what I was doing. It took years for any repercussion to come my way. You know 0000000 about any of that. Until you see this first hand you never will. You will assume every common man gets treated the same, and that would be completely wrong lol.
 

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You're blinded by the lifestyle you live. Where I come from you see this bs everyday. We were all troubled kids growing up. I watched my own friends of color get taken away by cops for doing exactly what I was doing. It took years for any repercussion to come my way. You know 0000000 about any of that. Until you see this first hand you never will. You will assume every common man gets treated the same, and that would be completely wrong lol.
Did you say you were from Somerset? I doubt that is a great sample size of culture knowledge.
 
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Did you say you were from Somerset? I doubt that is a great sample size of culture knowledge.

Ok then...

Neither is wherever you are from. You can't just extrapolate whatever experience you had and say your sample size is sufficient, but his isn't.

Doesn't matter if it was south side of Chicago or Boston or whatever... your anecdotes are no better than his.

nvm.. confused by the helmets, post not directed at you.

But point still stands, namely... if you directly have a bad experience with police where your friend was treated unfairly and you weren't, solely because of race, it doesn't mean that happens everywhere, it doesn't mean it wasn't just a single bad cop and you don't even know what goes through the mind of a cop anyway; can't say it was racism that caused you to be cuffed and not the incessant chit talk or whatever else.
 
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What do you know about his background?

You are jumping to unwarranted conclusions. Since you do it now, odds are pretty good you did it then to.
If he came from any type of urban struggle he'd see these things walking out his front door. What do I know about his background? Its very clear from previous posts he just doesn't believe POC struggle to this day. Get mad about my statement all you want 'billy. If you came from where that lifestyle you wouldn't even second guess oppression in this country, but you can go hide in the mountains and scream at the top of lungs about how cops are good people because the "good ole boy" you know from down the holler is a cop and he's never hurt a soul in his life. I'm here to let you know that [poop] ain't real...
 

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Ok then...

Neither is wherever you are from. You can't just extrapolate whatever experience you had and say your sample size is sufficient, but his isn't.

Doesn't matter if it was south side of Chicago or Boston or whatever... your anecdotes are no better than his.
I did say I was from Somerset. That is where my final foster home was before I shipped out to basic training years ago.
 

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It's not they all need to be treated with the same amount of intensity. A cop shoots a black kid? Throw his *** in prison for life. A dude whos out on neighborhood watch and shoots an unarmed black man should spend the rest of his life in prison.
Unless that person attacked him or you could prove his intent was to do you harm. What don't some people understand about self defense laws.
 
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Ok then...

Neither is wherever you are from. You can't just extrapolate whatever experience you had and say your sample size is sufficient, but his isn't.

Doesn't matter if it was south side of Chicago or Boston or whatever... your anecdotes are no better than his.
I think its about experiences and exposure...I would disagree with you in that I think if you say go to a high school with more African americans, latin, Asian than someone else had in their whole town you have greater odds for higher exposure (good/bad/indifferent)...increase your experiences and exposure and I think you can be more educated on general topics.

I would never say what he experienced was false or less than someone else. I do think comments about certain topics in a broad and general sense could hold less value because a lack of experience/exposure.
 
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Sure seems odd he was so anti white but had all these white people working for and with him. Sure seems odd he would be okay with his daughter dating a white man if he was so anti white.
You could say the same thing about Trump in reverse but, you won't. Does not fit your Racist bigoted agenda.
 

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Because being black is why he was targeted, profiled, confronted and eventually shot and killed. In the exact same scenario, if the victim was white, Zimmerman never would have followed, confronted or killed him. That is why race is a factor and likely the biggest factor. I know as a white man you will never understand why that is or see it for the issue it is. When people are targeted in a country in 2019 simply because of their skin color, it is an issue that needs to be addressed, we are sorry it makes you uncomfortable, but there is a reason it does.
You have proof of that? Bogus response and you will never understand. You have just shown why no matter what is posted, as I have surmised, your eyes are closed.
 

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If he came from any type of urban struggle he'd see these things walking out his front door. What do I know about his background? Its very clear from previous posts he just doesn't believe POC struggle to this day. Get mad about my statement all you want 'billy. If you came from where that lifestyle you wouldn't even second guess oppression in this country, but you can go hide in the mountains and scream at the top of lungs about how cops are good people because the "good ole boy" you know from down the holler is a cop and he's never hurt a soul in his life. I'm here to let you know that [poop] ain't real...

It would be real wise to stop categorizing an entire anything due to the actions of a few. (Pick a situation) That is racism or at least prejudice in it's worst form.
 
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I'll take a 100 jobs in Gary Indiana in place of 2,000 jobs in Indonesia.

"It'll cost too much" isn't sufficient. That's just rich people, boards of directors, and upper management bitching about overhead and how shareholders would react. Too bad. Find a way.

That's also where tax cuts come in and why they'll never go away, and probably have to be sweeter than what they are. The regulatory and tax environment is not as friendly as a lot of places around the globe. So, to get companies to come back and employ people stateside, we the public are going to have to concede some things on our end. Rich folks and their corporations are going to get a tax break. They probably shouldn't be required to provide a lot of things other than fair pay and basic benefits.

Racism has been a problem since people evolved on this earth. It's not a white thing, its a human thing. WASPy people did not invent slavery, I dare say that it originated in Africa. Societies are built on forced labor, skulls, bones, blood, tears, mistakes, horrors, etc.

How would you like people who committed no atrocities to atone for them? Please, lay out a logical plan. We can't move past it if you and others bring it up every political cycle. We can't move past it if screaming bloody murder at every relic from the past is encouraged. We can't move past it if people are going to raise holy hell at everything American like flags, statues, history books, too many white people in one room or on a TV show, etc...Better bring down the Pyramids, they were built by slaves. Better protest China, Mexico, Central America, and every other country on the map for all of their past wrongdoings.

Don't tell me to stop sweeping it under the rug, when I didn't make the mess. Again, nobody alive today did.

One way the plight of the African American improves is through opportunity. Nike and all other American companies that have more jobs overseas than necessary can improve opportunity and living conditions via jobs. Get woke and go wail to them. Looking at the blue collar, middle class, everyday Americans and calling them racist isn't going to solve the problem. Those people face many of the same problems as the black community. Drugs, lack of opportunity, violence, broken homes, dependence on government, and on and on...

You keep bringing up Trump. Yes, he has benefited from cheap labor, what the hell else do you want me to say? He can bring all his production back to the states along with Apple, Nike, and everyone else. He can hire Americans as opposed to cheap illegal immigrants as well. But it's not going to happen until it becomes mandatory.

The masses don't think all of the ways in which Trump accumulated wealth are okay, that's not why they voted for him. Just like people didn't vote for Kennedy nor Clinton because they were saints. They voted for Trump because he was the better of the two options and overall his America first platform is the greatest good for the greatest number.

I can't do anything about Trump's shortcomings, nor can the masses that will vote for him because the liberals will put forth an inferior candidate and platform that is more concerned about non-citizens and all the things we can provide for them.

Again, I did not join this thread because of Trump. I joined because of Kap and Nike.

If you want Trump out of office, great. Find a party, candidate, and platform that is better, more pro everyday, legal, common, hardworking, blue collar American.
Here is what you are ignoring. Nike makes a shoe for pennies on the dollar and sells shoes for roughly $50 and upwards for a few hundred. If they move the jobs here, the minimum they can pay is $7.25 per hour legally. What do you think will happen to the price of the shoes? When it increases to keep up with production cost, what do you think will happen to the cost of the shoes or apparel. It will skyrocket causing demand to drop, which will in turn cause less and less supply to be needed until ultimately Nike goes out of business. So what happens to all the jobs? Even the ones that already existed and provided a living before we forced Nike to bring their production portion of the business stateside?

Do you honestly expect that the manufacturing jobs they create here are going to pay a livable wage to the avg worker?

Our tax system is so ****** it's not even funny. The wealthiest corps in America are paying the least amount in taxes and still are not paying their employees livable wages or providing adequate health coverage. Giving them further tax breaks won't change this. That much is proven. They just got a big tax cut last year and most did nothing but pay their execs more.

The best way to fix the issue is to tax the **** out of companies that take their jobs off shores, to the point it becomes cheaper to pay a livable wage and operate in the US. You essentially force them out of business or force them to operate within the wages and tax rates set forth by our government. It's really not that hard.

So how often have you faced racism as a white person? Can you point to the historical enslavement and oppression of white people throughout history? How about in America? How many times have white people been oppressed in America? Enslaved? Treated differently and given less rights because of skin color? When were they owned and treated as property. I don't care where it originated, it does not change the fact that it occurred and its ramifications still impacts people of color today.

Who is asking for you to atone? We are asking for you to admit it occurred and was an atrocity and help us create a world where it never happens again and people of color aren't treated different simply because of skin color. This country was built on slavery, everyone has benefited from it in some way. Stop acting like you haven't just because your ancestors may not have owned slaves. In some way they and you still benefited from it.

We should not have to exist in a world where we see constant reminders of the enslavement and oppression. We want it taught, not forgotten, but we do not want to see constant reminders of it in public places. Would you be okay with statues of Hitler everywhere?

Nike isn't putting those things on the backs of shoes and advertising them to black people. That would be the difference.

Donald Trump hired illegal immigrants to do a good portion of the job he has in America. You are truly brainwashed if you think he is going to ring his companies back to America and hire legal American workers at a livable wage. If he wanted to, he could do that on his own without any laws forcing him. Like, leading by example perhaps? What is stopping him now? That man sold you idiots a bill of goods and you bought it, hook, line and sinker.

There were far more than 2 candidates. You had 16 in the primary alone of the republican side if I am not mistaken. There were 3 or 4 on the Dem side and several independents who ran in the general. Trump was far from the best or only choice. People voted for him because he stoked the fears of racism and hate in the country. That combined with low voter turnout and an antiquated system are what got Trump elected.

Sure you can. You can not vote for him.

There are many good candidates running this time. Who do you take issue with? Which ones are putting immigrants ahead of citizens? Can you provide evidence of this?
 
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If CK really wanted to stir the pot he’d call for African-Americans to reject Christianity. After all, when their ancestors were kidnapped and brought here they were disallowed from continuing with their previous religions, and were forced by their white captors to adopt the Christian faith. Of course that still holds over to this very day. Surely Christianity reminds him of slavery.

How many heads would explode if that ever happened?
 
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Slavery is honestly a discussion for the history books at this point. Every race, gender, religion, etc has been persecuted at some point in time throughout history. Black people are no exception, but slavery is not a thing in today's country. A greater focus on family values will help with a lot of perceived racism in today's society. One example is the incarceration rate when compared to other ethnicities. If children had a steady and positive father figure in their life, they are far less likely to end up incarcerated no matter the race or gender. Instead of focusing on the cause, people just like to say its systemic racism, which shockingly never solves the issue...
So how often have you faced racism as a white person? Can you point to the historical enslavement and oppression of white people throughout history? How about in America? How many times have white people been oppressed in America? Enslaved? Treated differently and given less rights because of skin color? When were they owned and treated as property. I don't care where it originated, it does not change the fact that it occurred and its ramifications still impacts people of color today.

But sure, blame the black people. It's the white thing to do.
 
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A couple points...

I am not much on name calling but, if that is your take from what I posted there is not much difference between you and a fool.

Grow up in my shoes and state that again. You cannot. (Suffice it to state that you cannot do that if you could have grown up in my shoes.)

I think it is more that you are 'just" a trouble-maker. (That is a very horrible thing to be.)

I don't need irony or face's to state what is obvious. (You would not understand or know irony if it hit you like an iron. You assume or fabricate too much to be taken seriously.)

I never made a black person or any person do anything in my life other than my children. Have you made someone do something other than your children? Do you know someone who has made someone do something (unless they guard prisoners)? If so please get away from them and do not associate with them. Also turn them in to the authorities, it is illegal.

You really lose royally but you will find that out when you least expect it and can least afford it, it may already be too late for you. (That should be a sobering comment to you but I doubt it will be. That is the shame of it all.)
It was your words. Not sure how else you can spin it.

Why do I need to grow up in your shoes? Does you having it bad mean that racism and slavery were somehow okay? How many times have you faced actual racism in the world?


Lol, sure.....okay.


Are you drinking this early in the day?
 
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A couple points...

I am not much on name calling but, if that is your take from what I posted there is not much difference between you and a fool.

Grow up in my shoes and state that again. You cannot. (Suffice it to state that you cannot do that if you could have grown up in my shoes.)

I think it is more that you are 'just" a trouble-maker. (That is a very horrible thing to be.)

I don't need irony or face's to state what is obvious. (You would not understand or know irony if it hit you like an iron. You assume or fabricate too much to be taken seriously.)

I never made a black person or any person do anything in my life other than my children. Have you made someone do something other than your children? Do you know someone who has made someone do something (unless they guard prisoners)? If so please get away from them and do not associate with them. Also turn them in to the authorities, it is illegal.

You really lose royally but you will find that out when you least expect it and can least afford it, it may already be too late for you. (That should be a sobering comment to you but I doubt it will be. That is the shame of it all.)
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Here is what you are ignoring. Nike makes a shoe for pennies on the dollar and sells shoes for roughly $50 and upwards for a few hundred. If they move the jobs here, the minimum they can pay is $7.25 per hour legally. What do you think will happen to the price of the shoes? When it increases to keep up with production cost, what do you think will happen to the cost of the shoes or apparel. It will skyrocket causing demand to drop, which will in turn cause less and less supply to be needed until ultimately Nike goes out of business. So what happens to all the jobs? Even the ones that already existed and provided a living before we forced Nike to bring their production portion of the business stateside?

Do you honestly expect that the manufacturing jobs they create here are going to pay a livable wage to the avg worker?

Our tax system is so ****ed it's not even funny. The wealthiest corps in America are paying the least amount in taxes and still are not paying their employees livable wages or providing adequate health coverage. Giving them further tax breaks won't change this. That much is proven. They just got a big tax cut last year and most did nothing but pay their execs more.

The best way to fix the issue is to tax the **** out of companies that take their jobs off shores, to the point it becomes cheaper to pay a livable wage and operate in the US. You essentially force them out of business or force them to operate within the wages and tax rates set forth by our government. It's really not that hard.

So how often have you faced racism as a white person? Can you point to the historical enslavement and oppression of white people throughout history? How about in America? How many times have white people been oppressed in America? Enslaved? Treated differently and given less rights because of skin color? When were they owned and treated as property. I don't care where it originated, it does not change the fact that it occurred and its ramifications still impacts people of color today.

Who is asking for you to atone? We are asking for you to admit it occurred and was an atrocity and help us create a world where it never happens again and people of color aren't treated different simply because of skin color. This country was built on slavery, everyone has benefited from it in some way. Stop acting like you haven't just because your ancestors may not have owned slaves. In some way they and you still benefited from it.

We should not have to exist in a world where we see constant reminders of the enslavement and oppression. We want it taught, not forgotten, but we do not want to see constant reminders of it in public places. Would you be okay with statues of Hitler everywhere?

Nike isn't putting those things on the backs of shoes and advertising them to black people. That would be the difference.

Donald Trump hired illegal immigrants to do a good portion of the job he has in America. You are truly brainwashed if you think he is going to ring his companies back to America and hire legal American workers at a livable wage. If he wanted to, he could do that on his own without any laws forcing him. Like, leading by example perhaps? What is stopping him now? That man sold you idiots a bill of goods and you bought it, hook, line and sinker.

There were far more than 2 candidates. You had 16 in the primary alone of the republican side if I am not mistaken. There were 3 or 4 on the Dem side and several independents who ran in the general. Trump was far from the best or only choice. People voted for him because he stoked the fears of racism and hate in the country. That combined with low voter turnout and an antiquated system are what got Trump elected.

Sure you can. You can not vote for him.

There are many good candidates running this time. Who do you take issue with? Which ones are putting immigrants ahead of citizens? Can you provide evidence of this?
Your hate and racism is showing.
 

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Here is what you are ignoring. Nike makes a shoe for pennies on the dollar and sells shoes for roughly $50 and upwards for a few hundred. If they move the jobs here, the minimum they can pay is $7.25 per hour legally. What do you think will happen to the price of the shoes? When it increases to keep up with production cost, what do you think will happen to the cost of the shoes or apparel. It will skyrocket causing demand to drop, which will in turn cause less and less supply to be needed until ultimately Nike goes out of business. So what happens to all the jobs? Even the ones that already existed and provided a living before we forced Nike to bring their production portion of the business stateside?

Do you honestly expect that the manufacturing jobs they create here are going to pay a livable wage to the avg worker?

Our tax system is so ****ed it's not even funny. The wealthiest corps in America are paying the least amount in taxes and still are not paying their employees livable wages or providing adequate health coverage. Giving them further tax breaks won't change this. That much is proven. They just got a big tax cut last year and most did nothing but pay their execs more.

The best way to fix the issue is to tax the **** out of companies that take their jobs off shores, to the point it becomes cheaper to pay a livable wage and operate in the US. You essentially force them out of business or force them to operate within the wages and tax rates set forth by our government. It's really not that hard.

So how often have you faced racism as a white person? Can you point to the historical enslavement and oppression of white people throughout history? How about in America? How many times have white people been oppressed in America? Enslaved? Treated differently and given less rights because of skin color? When were they owned and treated as property. I don't care where it originated, it does not change the fact that it occurred and its ramifications still impacts people of color today.

Who is asking for you to atone? We are asking for you to admit it occurred and was an atrocity and help us create a world where it never happens again and people of color aren't treated different simply because of skin color. This country was built on slavery, everyone has benefited from it in some way. Stop acting like you haven't just because your ancestors may not have owned slaves. In some way they and you still benefited from it.

We should not have to exist in a world where we see constant reminders of the enslavement and oppression. We want it taught, not forgotten, but we do not want to see constant reminders of it in public places. Would you be okay with statues of Hitler everywhere?

Nike isn't putting those things on the backs of shoes and advertising them to black people. That would be the difference.

Donald Trump hired illegal immigrants to do a good portion of the job he has in America. You are truly brainwashed if you think he is going to ring his companies back to America and hire legal American workers at a livable wage. If he wanted to, he could do that on his own without any laws forcing him. Like, leading by example perhaps? What is stopping him now? That man sold you idiots a bill of goods and you bought it, hook, line and sinker.

There were far more than 2 candidates. You had 16 in the primary alone of the republican side if I am not mistaken. There were 3 or 4 on the Dem side and several independents who ran in the general. Trump was far from the best or only choice. People voted for him because he stoked the fears of racism and hate in the country. That combined with low voter turnout and an antiquated system are what got Trump elected.

Sure you can. You can not vote for him.

There are many good candidates running this time. Who do you take issue with? Which ones are putting immigrants ahead of citizens? Can you provide evidence of this?


Come on, you are a Trump voter. You voted for Trump but are scared to admit it. Be bold, stand up for what you believe. Trump is your man as he should be from "most" of your statements.
 
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