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Do you understand that it has been over for a long time now? What was done was horrible and inhumane and no longer practiced except by the Democratic party to a lesser extent. The sins of the fathers should not be visited on the sons. In fact, no laws today would allow it nor should they. We move on and hope we learn from our mistakes.
It is a human embryo/fetus and yes, we are arguing it. Your definition and mine will be different. "I knew you before you were born". For me, date of conception in a human starts a human life. No amount of argument or pandering will change that.
Is what you want to hear: "He was protesting over the treatment of minorities?" Is that what he was doing???? Lumping the entire United States population(Legal population) together and disrespecting the country in its entirety along with those that died to protect the United States? To protect him.
He lumped the entire United States population together to protest them? Is that the truest form of racism and bigotry that can be imagined? (Hint, it is.)
Calls ALL cops pigs? Or was it just his socks?
Yeah, that is the worst form of racism and more than that, he did it for profit.....sold out a cause for the almighty dollar. Are you defending that? Really? Not that it matters but my opinion of you as a poster is a lot less than it was before this started if that is what you are doing.
No way to justify how he is doing what he is doing unless you condone trouble-making for profit. Be Good
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I started that in this thread. Sooner or later you would have your hand out. It is very easy to want something,...... For nothing....
First off, I think you are getting your stats for unmarried and absentee mixed up. There is a difference. Second, no one is ignoring it, it is an issue in the black community, but not the rate you seem to beleive. I am still not sure how you get blaming black people for racism and slavery or somehow think that since black men walk away more often that somehoe negates those. How will more black dads staying around somehow undo slavery and racism?
Really, care to prove that? Make sure you read my post very carefully first. I think you will also find several cited studies showing when and where pain in embryo and fetus originates and increases.
Lmao, the impacts are still alive and well today as is racism. Hell, look around Americs today and you still have sex slavery. Which impacts minorities at a higher rate no less.
The democratic party is practicing slavery now? :joy: I would love to see your proof.
I think you are confused. No one is arguing that most women get abortions in the 1st trimester simply because they don't want the pregnancy.
You can believe as you will. Science and fact prove it's not so. It's an embryo with no ability to exist on its own. It has to heartbeat the first 2 months and doesn't even attach to the uterus at conception. If that was the case God must be the ultimate murder of babies as a high percentage often end in miscarriage. Do you label him as a murder of babies?
Abortion had exisited in this world a long time, well before it was ever legalized almost 50 years ago. You can *****, moan, groan and meltdown over the fact you can no longer control a womans body, but it will never change. Abort, abort, abort.
Sounds like a very racist thing to say.
Sounds like you have a lot of experince wanting sonething for nothing to know so much about it.
It's even funnier when you consider it was white people who made blacks work for nothing for centuries. :flushed: Ohhh, the irony.
The proof is that they use racism to control their voting base. Racism while not gone in America is really no where near the problem it used to be. The last administration used it to keep its base in line so, it has been ramped up a bit.. Not saying we should not still point it out when it happens. Quite the contrary, we should try to eliminate it where ever it is but, not physically. Civil demonstrations and shaming will do the trick. Unfortunately because some use it to control people real racism is being watered down because of all of the fake instances and the definition of racism being changed.
Definition? Anytime that anyone disagrees with the stance of the left you are either racist, homophobic, islamaphobic, misogynistic, etc....This thread is proof. I was already labeled it early on because I did not like Kaepernicks stance from the beginning. Being an old retired vet, it would not matter to me what color you are. If in my opinion you disrespect the flag or national anthem for the country I swore to defend, I take offense.
Unfortunately, like many, you have been subjected to what those who are pro abortion want you to see and since you agree with the stance will not admit or want to see truth.
Here is a question no one has been able to answer ever when I ask it. Is there any other DNA or external element that can be introduced into a fertilized fetus that can make it come out other than human?
Really? Care to provide this proof? I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, but some proof would be nice.
Can you provide some proof of Obama using racism to "keep it's base in line"? I really wanna see. Pretty Pretty please will you show it.
Seems like it is a bit more of an issue than you might like to admit. This was just 1 rally. Definitely not during the Obama years.
Here's a laundry list of birther declarations Trump made before he tried to put the controversy to rest:
1. "Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like."
- March 23, 2011, on "The View"
2. "He's spent millions of dollars trying to get away from this issue. Millions of dollars in legal fees trying to get away from this issue. And I'll tell you what, I brought it up, just routinely, and all of a sudden a lot facts are emerging and I'm starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country."
- March 28, 2011, on Fox News
3. "He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way."
- March 30, 2011, on The Laura Ingraham Show
4. "I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ... I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility ... then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics."
- April 7, 2011, on NBC's "Today" show
5. "His grandmother in Kenya said, 'Oh, no, he was born in Kenya and I was there and I witnessed the birth.' She's on tape. I think that tape's going to be produced fairly soon. Somebody is coming out with a book in two weeks, it will be very interesting."
- April 7, 2011, on MSNBC's "Morning Joe"
Note: On April 27, 2011, President Obama made public his long form birth certificate. The Trump campaign in his statement portrayed this as the event that resolved the situation.
"Having successfully obtained President Obama's birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States," Miller said.
But as the following comments demonstrate, whatever he thought personally, Trump continued to gin up birther issues for years after.
6. "He didn't know he was running for president, so he told the truth. The literary agent wrote down what he said ... He said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia ... Now they're saying it was a mistake. Just like his Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya, and she pointed down the road to the hospital, and after people started screaming at her, she said, 'Oh, I mean Hawaii.' Give me a break."
- May 24, 2012, interview with The Daily Beast's Lloyd Grove, responding to an erroneous report about Obama
7. "A lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. ... Many people do not think it was authentic. His mother was not in the hospital. There are many other things that came out. And frankly if you would report it accurately I think you'd probably get better ratings than you're getting."
- May 29, 2012, to CNN's Wolf Blitzer
8. "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."
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- August 6, 2012, in a tweet more than a year after Obama released his longform birth certificate
9. "Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I'm saying I don't know. Nobody knows."
- August 2013, to ABC News
10. "How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama's 'birth certificate' died in plane crash today. All others lived."
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- December 12, 2013, in tweet about the death of Loretta Fuddy.
11. "Well, I don't know -- did he do it? ... Well, a lot of people don't agree with you and a lot of people feel it wasn't a proper certificate."
-May 2014, in an interview with TV3's Colette Fitzpatrick in Ireland, Trump first contested whether Obama had released his birth certificate, then questioned whether its legitimacy.
12. "There are three things that could happen. And one of them did happen. He was perhaps born in Kenya. Very simple, OK? He was perhaps born in this country. But said he was born in Kenya because if you say you were born in Kenya, you got aid and you got into colleges. People were doing that. So perhaps he was born in this country, and that has a very big chance. Or, you know, who knows?"
- May 27, 2014, in remarks at the National Press Club
13. "Who knows about Obama? ... Who knows, who knows? Who cares right now?... I have my own theory on Obama. Someday I will write a book, I will do another book, and it will do very successfully."
- January 6, 2016, in aninterview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
14. "I'll answer that question at the right time. I just don't want to answer it yet ... I don't talk about it anymore. The reason I don't is because then everyone is going to be talking about it as opposed to jobs, the military, the vets, security."
- September 15, 2016, in an interview with The Washington Post.
Seems like Trump was using racist tactics for sure to aid himself and his candidacy. I think you might have your presidents confused. Now he and his son are trying to encite the same conspiracies around Kamala Harris. You think this ever would have been an issue if they were white?
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Then there was this gem! Not really sure how that is the Obamas using racism to their advantage, but okay.....
Disagreeing with CK doesn't make you a racist. Not being able to understand why he is doing it might though. And thinking it has anything to do with disrespect or animosity towards the military or patriotism may point to a lack of knowledge or understanding on the matter. Peacefully taking a knee during the pledge or anthem is about as far as you can get from being disrespectful. I fought in the military, as did several generations of my family. We did not fight because of a flag or a song. Every country has a flag and a song, believe me it's nothing special. We served and fought because we believed in and supported the freedoms and rights that come with being American, and one of those is the right to protest and free speech. We did not fight so that we could tell others how they must act or what they must do to be deemed respectful to others or society norms. We did not fight so that Americans could only have the right to protest and free speech when we felt it was tolerable and acceptable. A flag and a song did not make this country what it is, the constitution did. And the first part of that constitution grants the freedom of speech and the freedom of protest.
Very few people are going to label you as a racist for disagreeing with liberal beliefs. That is just more right wing conspiracy BS. The right disagree with the left on universal healthcare and I don't see people running around labeling them as racist for it. The left disagrees with the approach we are taking in the middle east and with China and NK. I don't see people running around making a race issue out of it. The left disagrees with how we are currently handling Russia and Putin, I have yet to see someone make that a racial thing. Stop believing your right wing propaganda and open your eyes.
That bringing more unwanted children into the world to suffer isn't humane and terminating an embryo is far more humane and economically viable. Face the facts man, it's not about the embryo or fetus to you. It's about having the ability to control someone else's body. If you cared so much about them, why are you debating me on a message board and not spending your free time out adopting/fostering and raising all the available kids in the world? There are literal millions you could be out helping if they were as important to you as you want it to appear.
Okay, so now you are getting into like vivisection and Dr Moreau type stuff. Why are we trying to make non-humans from embryos and fetus?
The trouble with the world is that the foolish are so cocksure...
The sad thing about the Woke culture is they waste their energy and resources on the past as opposed to all the things going on today in this country and abroad.
That shoe was made in terrible conditions by a little kid for lower than a living wage. The job of making that shoe was shipped out of America and could have belonged to some black man or woman in Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, Chicago or any number of cities in which the African American community faces many problems, not the least of which is unemployment.
If Kap and any other wannabe Martin Luther King wants to make a difference, they ought to demand Nike bring all production of all products back home and put them in areas that have been destroyed by a half-century of liberal rule and policymaking.
That shoe was made in terrible conditions by a little kid for lower than a living wage. The job of making that shoe was shipped out of America and could have belonged to some black man or woman in Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, Chicago or any number of cities in which the African American community faces many problems, not the least of which is unemployment.
If Kap and any other wannabe Martin Luther King wants to make a difference, they ought to demand Nike bring all production of all products back home and put them in areas that have been destroyed by a half-century of liberal rule and policymaking.
What black people are going to be able to work there? Supposedly we have the lowest level of unemployment among blacks in history. According to the administration at least, we are pretty much all working great jobs now. So who are we suppose to put working in these factories?
I do find it a bit ironic that you attack Nike and companies for utilizing cheap labor globally but ignore the fact the leader of your country continues to do the same thing with products he has manufactured for his companies. Yet, you loons will trip over yourselves running out to vote for him. :joy:
All of the non-violent and petty crime criminals' people want out of prison, which I do agree with to some extent, where are they going to go and what are they going to do?
Before we let a million people out of prison, let's have a job waiting for them.
All of the young black youth that has fallen into the gang life, let's put a factory in those areas, get people off the streets and into a stable job.
All of those single mothers trying to balance a couple of part-time jobs th9-5at don't pay diddly nor have benefits, thus the government has to pay up, let's get them a stable 9-5 working for a fortune 500 that comes with all sorts of benefits.
For what it's worth all the poor white folks who fall into crime and drugs could use the help as well.
As for Trump. He's only doing what every other ivy league educated globalist liberal has been allowed to do since NAFTA.
As soon as it's a law that he's got to make his **** here, well then I guess he'll make his **** here.
Weak straw man response here from you. There is only so much I can do and if I quit my job to help, there would be more people on the dole. I already give monthly to children's charities and I would be hurting them more by quitting. Personal responsibility is the answer here. If you do not want it, practice safe sex or abstain. Do you help out?
Not about controlling anything which shows you know absolutely nothing about people. You ignorant to God's way and the way Christians see life, especially the life of little children. Are you against or for the death penalty? Don't bother answering, the proof is already in your postings in the fact that you are for killing the innocent.
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That does not mean you did not pull the race card you idiot. There have been others who are white on here that have pulled it. Your ignorance is glaring. Not surprised you have been slapped down in this thread.
There isn't a race card to pull lmao. Why would I use African American oppression to benefit from in any narrative lmao....you're quite clearly the most ignorant person I have encountered on any thread. I have no card to pull. I am white and I am a conservative. I "pulled the race card" lmao gtfoh you old redneck
That does not take anything away from what I posted. I don't care about the birther issue, my point was that it is not as anywhere as bad as it was before. The flames where stoked during the last admin and it is not even debatable.Here's a laundry list of birther declarations Trump made before he tried to put the controversy to rest:
1. "Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like."
- March 23, 2011, on "The View"
2. "He's spent millions of dollars trying to get away from this issue. Millions of dollars in legal fees trying to get away from this issue. And I'll tell you what, I brought it up, just routinely, and all of a sudden a lot facts are emerging and I'm starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country."
- March 28, 2011, on Fox News
3. "He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way."
- March 30, 2011, on The Laura Ingraham Show
4. "I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ... I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility ... then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics."
- April 7, 2011, on NBC's "Today" show
5. "His grandmother in Kenya said, 'Oh, no, he was born in Kenya and I was there and I witnessed the birth.' She's on tape. I think that tape's going to be produced fairly soon. Somebody is coming out with a book in two weeks, it will be very interesting."
- April 7, 2011, on MSNBC's "Morning Joe"
Note: On April 27, 2011, President Obama made public his long form birth certificate. The Trump campaign in his statement portrayed this as the event that resolved the situation.
"Having successfully obtained President Obama's birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States," Miller said.
But as the following comments demonstrate, whatever he thought personally, Trump continued to gin up birther issues for years after.
6. "He didn't know he was running for president, so he told the truth. The literary agent wrote down what he said ... He said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia ... Now they're saying it was a mistake. Just like his Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya, and she pointed down the road to the hospital, and after people started screaming at her, she said, 'Oh, I mean Hawaii.' Give me a break."
- May 24, 2012, interview with The Daily Beast's Lloyd Grove, responding to an erroneous report about Obama
7. "A lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. ... Many people do not think it was authentic. His mother was not in the hospital. There are many other things that came out. And frankly if you would report it accurately I think you'd probably get better ratings than you're getting."
- May 29, 2012, to CNN's Wolf Blitzer
8. "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."
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- August 6, 2012, in a tweet more than a year after Obama released his longform birth certificate
9. "Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I'm saying I don't know. Nobody knows."
- August 2013, to ABC News
10. "How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama's 'birth certificate' died in plane crash today. All others lived."
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- December 12, 2013, in tweet about the death of Loretta Fuddy.
11. "Well, I don't know -- did he do it? ... Well, a lot of people don't agree with you and a lot of people feel it wasn't a proper certificate."
-May 2014, in an interview with TV3's Colette Fitzpatrick in Ireland, Trump first contested whether Obama had released his birth certificate, then questioned whether its legitimacy.
12. "There are three things that could happen. And one of them did happen. He was perhaps born in Kenya. Very simple, OK? He was perhaps born in this country. But said he was born in Kenya because if you say you were born in Kenya, you got aid and you got into colleges. People were doing that. So perhaps he was born in this country, and that has a very big chance. Or, you know, who knows?"
- May 27, 2014, in remarks at the National Press Club
13. "Who knows about Obama? ... Who knows, who knows? Who cares right now?... I have my own theory on Obama. Someday I will write a book, I will do another book, and it will do very successfully."
- January 6, 2016, in aninterview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
14. "I'll answer that question at the right time. I just don't want to answer it yet ... I don't talk about it anymore. The reason I don't is because then everyone is going to be talking about it as opposed to jobs, the military, the vets, security."
- September 15, 2016, in an interview with The Washington Post.
Seems like Trump was using racist tactics for sure to aid himself and his candidacy. I think you might have your presidents confused. Now he and his son are trying to encite the same conspiracies around Kamala Harris. You think this ever would have been an issue if they were white?
"Hands up don't shoot!"
"If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon"
And many more.....
You have a hard time understanding and staying on message don't you.
Nike is not going to come in and start paying some high level salary for low skilled jobs. Hell, no company is. Why don't we start making the companies already here pay their employees a livable wage before we start worry about bringing in others who are going to perpetuate a cycle? The largest companies in America today with maximum profits still pay low wages, irregardless of the tax benefits they get to do the opposite. This causes people who work for them to seem government assistance to make ends meet. Why not fix that issue first? I get it's always easier to put the blame elsewhere and look to others to fix the issue, but maybe it's time America fix itself first. Not to mention, most companies don't high convicted felons. Particularly not in good jobs.
What ivy league school did Donald Trump go to?
LMAO, Donald Trump hired illegal immigrants to work his business, you know, when it was illegal. Do you honestly think laws will prevent him for manufacturing goods in another country illegally? He couldn't even buy an American wife for Gods sake.
And I'm the one being shot down? lmao foh. They were flames that needed to be stoked because of god awful tragedies that occurred. Period. Point blank.
Me in reference to Kaepernick: He had already lost everything. no where to go but up. Selfish opportunity posturing."
You: "Sounds about white"
Who's the imbecile now?
You: "Sounds about white"
Who's the imbecile now?
No one said you had to quite. Did you not read the "free time" part? Or did you just choose to ignore it. By having abortions they are saving you money and allowing what you do donate to be concentrated more on the actual living children. So abortion is actually benefiting everyone.
Or they can just have an abortion. Which is legal no less.
I am against the death penalty as it has not shown to be a deterrent and they are actual living people and not embryos. So do you consider God a murder when miscarriages occur? Do you think it would be better to force an unwanted to child to be brought into the world to be neglected, abused, tortured, starved and so forth. That seems far more cruel than terminating an embryo.
Again, you don't care about kids at all. it is all about controlling what other people can do with their bodies.
Keep in mind, the race-obsessed crew on the left who claim blacks can’t be racist because they don’t have “power”, are somehow oblivious of how a guy can claim an American flag offends him and then a major athletics brand halts production and sidelines a product.
One guy’s opinion catered to.
One guy’s opinion catered to.
He spent most of his time in San Francisco. They don’t put much emphasis on rim protection there.
Completely wrong on all counts. I don't see where some idiot making the above statement has anything to do with proving the last admin stoking the flames of racism.
Then there was this gem! Not really sure how that is the Obamas using racism to their advantage, but okay.....
Disagreeing with CK doesn't make you a racist. Not being able to understand why he is doing it might though. And thinking it has anything to do with disrespect or animosity towards the military or patriotism may point to a lack of knowledge or understanding on the matter. Peacefully taking a knee during the pledge or anthem is about as far as you can get from being disrespectful. I fought in the military, as did several generations of my family. We did not fight because of a flag or a song. Every country has a flag and a song, believe me it's nothing special. We served and fought because we believed in and supported the freedoms and rights that come with being American, and one of those is the right to protest and free speech. We did not fight so that we could tell others how they must act or what they must do to be deemed respectful to others or society norms. We did not fight so that Americans could only have the right to protest and free speech when we felt it was tolerable and acceptable. A flag and a song did not make this country what it is, the constitution did. And the first part of that constitution grants the freedom of speech and the freedom of protest.
Very few people are going to label you as a racist for disagreeing with liberal beliefs. That is just more right wing conspiracy BS. The right disagree with the left on universal healthcare and I don't see people running around labeling them as racist for it. The left disagrees with the approach we are taking in the middle east and with China and NK. I don't see people running around making a race issue out of it. The left disagrees with how we are currently handling Russia and Putin, I have yet to see someone make that a racial thing. Stop believing your right wing propaganda and open your eyes.
You must not get out much or watch real news with all of the racist cards being pulled now and were pulled then when disagreeing with Obama and the left. Even now, if anyone disagrees with any minority group you will be labeled as a racist. Your own buddy in this thread pulled it as have you in this post.
You assume that I do not understand or I am a racist because I took offense to Kaepernick on the Vet issue.The real one who does not understand is the one telling a retired Vet that I should not be offended or I might be racist. Just because as a Vet I don't see it the way you do does not mean I am wrong.
I'm sure you don't. Just like I am sure you don't care he and his son are doing the same racist crap to the black female candidate he may have to run against. It proves he is a racist and a race-baiter so it must be ignored at all cost.
How is Obama responsible for what Dorian Johnson claimed?
How is saying if he had a son he would be black and therefore could be targeted like Trayvon a problem for you? Do you disagree with that assessment? Do you think Trayvon deserved to be shot and killed for walking in his neighborhood.
What are these many more? Let's hear them.
What issue am I not staying on?
Has Trump apologized to the Central Park 5 who he demanded be put to death yet? Asking for a friend.....
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I think you may be retarded.
So provide some evidence of this. Just stating claims with no support doesn't make them true bud.
If this was all over the news as you claim, it should be really easy to cite it.
Where have I called you a racist? Can you point me to this? Where did I tell you that you had to agree? Can you point that out?
I am a retired vet as well. I fought for a constitution and the freedoms it entails. I did not fight so that I could decide when and how those freedoms are demonstrated. It sounds to me like you are saying you severed and fought for yourself and what you wanted and not for America and her constitution.
Nobody said anything about high paying.
I said a stable job with benefits.
Tax benefits big business are always going to be a thing. The tax system needs to be cleaned up. That is a massive undertaking, and I'm not a tax accountant. I'm not here to discuss tax code.
I'm here because Nike decided to "Get Woke", so I suggested they can get woke and bring their jobs home and provide more and better opportunity to the millions of blacks, browns, whites, etc who need it.
The country isn't going to get better by people nitpicking the past. It'll get better if those people looked at some things that need to be nitpicked today. Things like jobs and opportunity.
Trump went to Penn...Wharton School of Business...again, he hasn't done anything lot of other globalists haven't done.
You want to stop people taking advantage of cheap immigrant labor...let's do something about the border and this countries immigration system. That's not to say stop immigration. Tidy it up to where it's not so easy for so many illegals to come in, then rich people won't have such a big pool and easy time of hiring them on the low for cheap.
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