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jwheat

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Who have I called a racist?

Economic success has nothing to do with whether a person is or isn't racist not whether someone does or does not deal with racism.
I guess what it boils down to is some people have tougher feelings than others. Try to be the first one and things won’t be so hard on you
 

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If only that was how racism and oppression worked.

When someone calls you racist why not have tougher feelings and ignore it?
I didn’t say it bothered me when someone calls me a racist. Especially someone like you who wants the sympathy for something that happened before I was even a sperm cell in my dads ballsack. I only worry about things I control like how i and my children treat people.

Just know that just because I don’t think you are oppressed because of your skin that doesn’t make me racist. Poor people of all color are much more oppressed than any particular race.
 
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Serious question. How come Nike has never had a problem with the Philadelphia 76ers logo/jersey?

It includes 13 stars often.

It's only a problem when someone complains.... then it is potentially a problem to their bottom line.

The real problem is that it legitimizes bad ideas like those being expressed here by a few misguided proponents.

That's how these lies get propagated and legitimatized; they are politically expedient and economically expedient. This is how you come to the moronic belief that you have to deal with racism every day in modern America, that the other guy can't understand because he is not a member of your group

There are very real consequences for this... tragic ones really.

These people must be challenged by people of character and good will.

-because you say it doesn't? Racism and bigotry is alive and well on this very board on a daily basis.

I'm saying you perceive intent that is not there. I was called a racist when I know for certain I am not. Similarly, you and others can perceive such that simply isn't there in your day to day to lives. It's not because I say so, it's because psychology says so.. there's limits to perception, and perception is reality.

-it doesn't hurt you to acknowledge that maybe, just maybe some might be at a disadvantage compared to others.

I acknowledge this... there's a whole wide and long spectrum of how this is the case, life isn't fair and it's not meant to be.

What I am saying is not every injustice is due to race, but you can certainly determine it to be so if you want to conclude that.


-what is a racializer? Someone that recognizes reality and points it out?

One who cannot but see everything through a racial prism. Someone who wants to profit from and impose their view of reality on others at the expense of others. They are sowers of discord, not creators of peace.



I feel just fine, by the way. I can live my life and understand injustice at the same time.

Good... then let's fight injustice together. First we must find where and when it actually exists, and I have never seen it properly supported by the Black LIves Matter types, just illogical arguments like those expressed in this thread and/or troublemakers... When Black lives Matter tried to go to South Carolina to start trouble after the Dylan Roof shooting the local black community there told them to kick rocks.

I stand in support of such black leaders and communities.... I actually care about this issue because I am strongly against tribalism for personal reasons. I have yet to see from any racializer that they are in it for anyone but themselves.
 
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I didn’t say it bothered me when someone calls me a racist. Especially someone like you who wants the sympathy for something that happened before I was even a sperm cell in my dads ballsack. I only worry about things I control like how i and my children treat people.

Just know that just because I don’t think you are oppressed because of your skin that doesn’t make me racist. Poor people of all color are much more oppressed than any particular race.
If it didn't bother you, you wouldn't come to the paddock to comment on it repeatedly.

Wait, you honestly think racism hasn't happened in your lifetime? Let me guess, you are white and have never seen racism?

I can put a poor person in nice close and you would never know they are poor. If I put a black person in nice close, everyone still knows they are black. Poor isn't a skin color, it's not as obvious as being black.
 
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Wait, you honestly think racism hasn't happened in your lifetime? Let me guess, you are white and have never seen racism?

I can put a poor person in nice close and you would never know they are poor. If I put a black person in nice close, everyone still knows they are black. Poor isn't a skin color, it's not as obvious as being black.
Being black doesn’t stop you from doing a single thing in 2019. In 1959 yes. Not today. A black rich guy can go wherever he wants, buy whatever he wants, eat what/where ever he wants.

Does a poor black person have that same ability?
 

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Being black doesn’t stop you from doing a single thing in 2019. In 1959 yes. Not today. A black rich guy can go wherever he wants, buy whatever he wants, eat what/where ever he wants.

Does a poor black person have that same ability?
If only any if this were true what a nice world it would be.

It must be so nice being white in America.
 
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Obama's inauguration, racist


Heres the thing with these sjw's..white nationalists make up .01% of the population so why are you metting them own everything? Where will it stop. White nationalists wesr socks, therefore socks are racist
 

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If only any if this were true what a nice world it would be.

It must be so nice being white in America.
Not anymore. Everyone who watches cnn thinks we are the devil.

Actually the does make it kind of nice. Maybe everyone will just leave me alone and let me be white in America to myself. Maybe I won’t infect anyone else with my whiteness

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Who is Morehouse billionaire benefactor Robert F. Smith?
  • Billionaire Robert F. Smith pledged to pay off student loans for every member of Morehouse College's graduating class.
  • The Ivy League-educated business leader made his fortune investing in software firms and other tech companies.
  • He's well-known for his philanthropy — and is the first African-American to sign Bill and Melinda Gates' Giving Pledge.


Morehouse graduates interviewed by "CBS This Morning" said they expect that Smith's gift will have an immeasurable impact on their lives.

"Just imagine the weight lifted off your shoulders when you have a clean slate coming out of college," said Dwytt Lewis, a 2019 graduate with a degree in business administration, who owed more than $150,000 in debt.

"It's just an overwhelming feeling, in a good way," the formerly homeless student told Strassmann earlier Monday. "I'm so motivated to go change the world."

This isn't Smith's first gift to Morehouse. Earlier this year, he donated $1.5 million to fund endowed scholarships and build a park where students could study.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-is-morehouse-billionaire-robert-f-smith/



 

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My favorite is how all the dems are saying how racist a betsy Ross flag is...but if younaskee them a week ago they would be like "what?"
 

jwheat

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Who is Morehouse billionaire benefactor Robert F. Smith?



    • Billionaire Robert F. Smith pledged to pay off student loans for every member of Morehouse College's graduating class.
    • The Ivy League-educated business leader made his fortune investing in software firms and other tech companies.
    • He's well-known for his philanthropy — and is the first African-American to sign Bill and Melinda Gates' Giving Pledge.

Morehouse graduates interviewed by "CBS This Morning" said they expect that Smith's gift will have an immeasurable impact on their lives.

"Just imagine the weight lifted off your shoulders when you have a clean slate coming out of college," said Dwytt Lewis, a 2019 graduate with a degree in business administration, who owed more than $150,000 in debt.

"It's just an overwhelming feeling, in a good way," the formerly homeless student told Strassmann earlier Monday. "I'm so motivated to go change the world."

This isn't Smith's first gift to Morehouse. Earlier this year, he donated $1.5 million to fund endowed scholarships and build a park where students could study.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-is-morehouse-billionaire-robert-f-smith/


That’s an awesome thing for him to do
 
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Obama's inauguration, racist


Heres the thing with these sjw's..white nationalists make up .01% of the population so why are you metting them own everything? Where will it stop. White nationalists wesr socks, therefore socks are racist

It's 2 things... the more intelligent amoung them use this argument to exploit the gullible, if you can convince them that white supremacists are everywhere then you simply don't have to take into account the opposition on anything.

The less intelligent amoung them do not and cannot see the gaping holes in their position. There argument is literally, Hitler was fond of dogs... we must therefore cage all German Shephards.... they are dangerous.
 

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Not anymore. Everyone who watches cnn thinks we are the devil.

Actually the does make it kind of nice. Maybe everyone will just leave me alone and let me be white in America to myself. Maybe I won’t infect anyone else with my whiteness

What are you not able to do today that you wish you could? If I can help i promise I will
CNN, like most all news stations is mostly white anchors, staff and leadership. Try again!!


At this point I would settle for just being treated like something other than 2nd class.
 
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Well just remember if you're Asian you have to score twice as high to get into Harvard. Bc of privilege and all. Privilege of being an even smaller minority.

Exactly... they don't see or can't understand that their positions (this radical regressive left which this is a part of) eventually cave on themselves... unable to sustain the weight of their own contradictions.

They are myopic and can only hope to achieve the exact opposite goal which they claim to support. That's the best case scenario. Same here.

Or they seek to exact revenge, they want to bring everyone else down to them, a let the whole world burn and watch it mentality.

These people are the enemy within; God help us when/if they ever manage to gain more power than they already enjoy.

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CNN, like most all news stations is mostly white anchors, staff and leadership. Try again!!


At this point I would settle for just being treated like something other than 2nd class.
Cnn are white apologists. I won’t apologize for something I had no part in.

In 2019 how are you being treated 2nd class?
 

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Being black doesn’t stop you from doing a single thing in 2019.
You can't really be this ignorant. Come on down to Georgia sometime and educate yourself. Even though blacks make up nearly half the population, I'd say they make up maybe 5% of the medical positions in the state. Walk into a factory down here sometime. Even though blacks account for at least 50% of all factory jobs in this state, probably 90% of the jobs they have are out on the plant floor in non-supervisory position. But if you go into the offices, 90% of those jobs are held by white people. In the poorer counties, you rarely go into a fast food restaurant in which 90% of the employees aren't black. I could give you dozens of other examples if you need them. People like you are absolutely clueless about these things. Just as I was for most of my life -- until I moved to Georgia five years ago. Not only does a HUGE racial divide still exist in this country, but we are decades away from it being fixed to the point of it being even close to equal. Moving down here has been a serious eyeopener for me. Honestly, it's shocking.
 
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I was in an Atlanta hospital few months ago.

Literally 90% of the staff was black American, doctor was I think latino white South American....doctor names I saw were nearly all foreign..... parking lot attendant was female Indian.

Anecdotal is anecdotal and none of what you posted or what I posted has anything to do with a system of oppression.
 

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Cnn are white apologists. I won’t apologize for something I had no part in.

In 2019 how are you being treated 2nd class?
That makes no sense. They cover far more issues related to white people than black. Why not just hire more black people of that was the end goal. Come on, you can do better than conspiracy theoriest. SomeOtherPoster already has that covered.

By being born black.
 
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You can't really be this ignorant. Come on down to Georgia sometime and educate yourself.

I have experience in the deep south...

A Nigerian immigrant economically outperforms a white American born.

A Nigerian immigrant doesn't enjoy the same amount of privilege growing up as a white American, or black for that matter.

Why does a Nigerian immigrant who moves to Georgia economically outperform a white or black guy born in Georgia?
 

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I dont know, why can't whites get over it when someone mentions racism, slavery, oppression, white supremacy, white privilege?

All of those things except for one, which is a farce, happened in the past and there is nothing anyone can do to change it.

Name one person that hates you because of your race. That’s actual racism, feeling like you’re inferior is all on you.
 

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It's only a problem when someone complains.... then it is potentially a problem to their bottom line.

The real problem is that it legitimizes bad ideas like those being expressed here by a few misguided proponents.

That's how these lies get propagated and legitimatized; they are politically expedient and economically expedient. This is how you come to the moronic belief that you have to deal with racism every day in modern America, that the other guy can't understand because he is not a member of your group

There are very real consequences for this... tragic ones really.

These people must be challenged by people of character and good will.



I'm saying you perceive intent that is not there. I was called a racist when I know for certain I am not. Similarly, you and others can perceive such that simply isn't there in your day to day to lives. It's not because I say so, it's because psychology says so.. there's limits to perception, and perception is reality.



I acknowledge this... there's a whole wide and long spectrum of how this is the case, life isn't fair and it's not meant to be.

What I am saying is not every injustice is due to race, but you can certainly determine it to be so if you want to conclude that.




One who cannot but see everything through a racial prism. Someone who wants to profit from and impose their view of reality on others at the expense of others. They are sowers of discord, not creators of peace.





Good... then let's fight injustice together. First we must find where and when it actually exists, and I have never seen it properly supported by the Black LIves Matter types, just illogical arguments like those expressed in this thread and/or troublemakers... When Black lives Matter tried to go to South Carolina to start trouble after the Dylan Roof shooting the local black community there told them to kick rocks.

I stand in support of such black leaders and communities.... I actually care about this issue because I am strongly against tribalism for personal reasons. I have yet to see from any racializer that they are in it for anyone but themselves.


Very well said...
 

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I have experience in the deep south...

A Nigerian immigrant economically outperforms a white American born.

A Nigerian immigrant doesn't enjoy the same amount of privilege growing up as a white American, or black for that matter.

Why does a Nigerian immigrant who moves to Georgia economically outperform a white or black guy born in Georgia?
LOL ... too funny.
 

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I dont know, why can't whites get over it when someone mentions racism, slavery, oppression, white supremacy, white privilege?
because of the mileage people like you are trying to gain from it, and from destructive processes you pursue, and because of your own racist, bigoted agenda. Because no matter what is sacrificed, donated, improved, admitted, diluted, etc. in effort to make sniveling haters like you less hateful, it will never be good enough, so men like me are determined in the camp, that enough is enough, no more, earn it the rest of the way, if you want to have the right to exist.
 

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Ok then... why is this the automatic reaction your type has?

Or a personal attack?

Or something else similar.

To me, these bad ideas... they're not funny.
I'm not a "type". I just know your history on this site and I'm not wasting any time on you. Have a good day.
 
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Yeah, it's just a pov...

I could be wrong... and actually, if I am... I want you to show me how, that makes me better.

I've never seen a good argument for this KP-like stuff tho... yes, there are racists and you might encounter a racist situation here or there in your life as a minority in modern America still and yes they should be condemned wholly at every point.

But is that the cause of economic disparity? I don't see any evidence.
 
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All of those things except for one, which is a farce, happened in the past and there is nothing anyone can do to change it.

Name one person that hates you because of your race. That’s actual racism, feeling like you’re inferior is all on you.
Except they are all very real and still exist.

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because of the mileage people like you are trying to gain from it, and from destructive processes you pursue, and because of your own racist, bigoted agenda. Because no matter what is sacrificed, donated, improved, admitted, diluted, etc. in effort to make sniveling haters like you less hateful, it will never be good enough, so men like me are determined in the camp, that enough is enough, no more, earn it the rest of the way, if you want to have the right to exist.
You mean black?

If only any of that were true it would make things much easier.
 
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You can't really be this ignorant. Come on down to Georgia sometime and educate yourself. Even though blacks make up nearly half the population, I'd say they make up maybe 5% of the medical positions in the state. Walk into a factory down here sometime. Even though blacks account for at least 50% of all factory jobs in this state, probably 90% of the jobs they have are out on the plant floor in non-supervisory position. But if you go into the offices, 90% of those jobs are held by white people. In the poorer counties, you rarely go into a fast food restaurant in which 90% of the employees aren't black. I could give you dozens of other examples if you need them. People like you are absolutely clueless about these things. Just as I was for most of my life -- until I moved to Georgia five years ago. Not only does a HUGE racial divide still exist in this country, but we are decades away from it being fixed to the point of it being even close to equal. Moving down here has been a serious eyeopener for me. Honestly, it's shocking.
Explaining affirmative action to a Martian by Coleman Hughes (an African american)..hes probably not "a real black guy" tho

http://afro-optimist.blogspot.com/2018/05/explaining-affirmative-action-to-martian.html?m=1
 

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Yeah, it's just a pov...

I could be wrong... and actually, if I am... I want you to show me how, that makes me better.

I've never seen a good argument for this KP-like stuff tho... yes, there are racists and you might encounter a racist situation here or there in your life as a minority in modern America still and yes they should be condemned wholly at every point.

But is that the cause of economic disparity? I don't see any evidence.
Well, you know . . . some 12 year old black kid may have got picked last when the white kids were picking baseball teams many years ago and that put him into a state of perpetual low self-esteem, affected how he applied for work as an adult, income, etc. Nevermind the geeky white kid who ALWAYS got picked last and got beat up by gangs of black kids in the 70s and went on to start his own fortune 500 dot com.
 
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