Or maybe you are just putting way too much stock in an incredibily low sample size.
Kam Williams thread
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Or maybe you are just putting way too much stock in an incredibily low sample size.
But we’re not 4 games in? I see this often and it blows my mind because everyone should know Those scrimmages are completely meaningless. No clue why so many are actually using anything they saw in those. And what’s the 3 before the 1 game we’ve played? Surely you don’t mean the BW scrimmage?
It’s true we don’t know, but one thing we do know is he’s not as bad of a shooter as he showed in the game. It’s just not possible. He’s just got to clear out and Pope said himself he hasn’t worked on offense much and you can see that as the guys were standing around half the game waiting on the next guy to do something. They just aren’t synced up yet. None of them have really played together. It’s likely he’s acclimating to his new role. it’s not something that’s uncommon. Shooters like Kam need to be clear and in rhythm. Best to give him 4 or 5 games to see what happens. If he doesn’t turn on then sure but we don’t know.
We’ll get a better idea when we’ve got a legitimate sample size which we don’t have yet. 40% 3 point shooters don’t go to missing rims on average. Might be the stage, might be the offense, he’s probably just unsure of himself right now.
Dude took 141 threes last season and connected on 40% of them.
And we are supposed to base him being a poor shooter on.............2 shots and 1 game that actually counted lol.
And we are supposed to base him being a poor shooter on.............2 shots and 1 game that actually counted lol.
Because if you can’t shoot in a meaningless scrimmage with no pressure you probably won’t perform well under pressure.
No sense in arguing this anymore.
We all hope he comes around.
All I’m saying is it wouldn’t have been such an issue, but Chandler and Noah have also started very slowly as well.
All 3 shooting poorly from 3 is concerning.
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Id say if this continues then it will definitely derail. I think we’ve also got some Calipari fatigue mixed in here. Guys like Kam need some time to acclimate (bigger arena, bigger lights?) or offensive schemes whatever it is, he knows how to shoot well and didn’t forget how to do it. Shooters need rhythm and he’s not familiar with the offense either. He’s playing for the first time as one of the best and he’s coming from a small place. He’s suddenly an NBA prospect and all eyes are on him. It’ll be fine just give the adjustment period some time and allow for a bigger sample size is what I’d do.
And as far as scrimmages go I played in many and as I’ve said several times, we practiced things in those that we’d never done before. In baseball I threw practice pitches I was working on I’d never throw in games, in football we played situational and did all sorts of things - winning was not even on our mind. Many times there was no score kept just to show how little it was of interests. You can’t take anything from those glorified practices which is all they are. Until this season I’ve never known how serious some people were taking them. I watched Purdue this season and I found myself caught up in the emotion thinking wow Purdue. Then realized Painter probably wasn’t even running usual offensive schemes and it didn’t mean anything lol.
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You could just as easily make the case for the flipside of that. Some players do better when the lights are on.
I can't imagine anyone was really caring much about their stats in a meaningless BW game.
If someone takes 100 threes and makes 40 of them ........I'm going to until further notice believe they are around 40%. Kam might be lower than that. He might regress.
If same player air balls shot 101 and 102, it's not really going to change my mind a whole lot on whether he's a 40% guy.
Guys tend to be what they were in the past. lol this is why every year around October we hear about certain guys and how much they've improved and how great they look in practice. Then the games hit and they are the same exact player they were in the past. It's not to say some players don't improve or that some don't get worse, just most tend to be what they are.
Do I think he'll hit 40% this season? Probably not. Do I think he's one of our better 3 point shooters? Yep.
But you have to figure in the level of competition he faced at Tulane vs the best league in college basketball he will face in the SEC.
Embarrassing thread but that's a commonplace on here when users can't put the bottle down and think they're armchair coaches
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We need to judge slowly on these guys. We're two exhibition games and one real one into the season. Give the kid a chance. It took Brea a good part of last season to get where he was in February and March. He, too, was struggling a little this time last year. Especially on defense.
You know the surprising thing about that is if you look at some of our guys in the past, the good 3 point shooters and you break down their stats between say non conference where we played cupcakes 90% of the time and SEC play, there are many times where the numbers against SEC competition is actually better than the cupcakes.
It sorta lends into the belief that defenses have little control over 3 pt FG%.
This is why you have a guy like Brea who shot 43% for Dayton in 4 years, come to UK face much better competititon and still shot.........43.5%. Even in SEC play where he took half his threes........he shot 40%. In a league that was considered historically good last season.
Good shooters just seem to be good shooters regardless of who they are facing.
Moral high ground? Are you hollering because you're a hit dog? The original post of this thread was made to push a narrative that isn't even remotely based in reality.
Assuming you can read, go back and look at what I've said in this thread. But it's not about me. 99% of your stuff is scolding other people and being morally superior. I normally see it on the Lair. You never contribute anything but bitching.
This would make sense if I was even active in the lair, you're literally doing the same thing that you're complaining I'm doing. Matter of fact the post you quoted was the first time I had posted on this forum in months while you are targeting me with this pretentious sentiment. Find someone else to target with your miserable antics.
Not surprised to see who's liking your posts
Get help for your schizophrenia
Kam has proven he can shoot threes at a high clip, no question, but this stage is much bigger. He needs time to adjust to it.
Hopefully … he CAN … and WILL !! There are no guarantees and nothing is automatic, as C. J. Fredrick showed us. GOOD LUCK to Kam as the season unfolds.
Hopefully … he CAN … and WILL !! There are no guarantees and nothing is automatic, as C. J. Fredrick showed us. GOOD LUCK to Kam as the season unfolds.
So folks who disagree with you are either drunks or have schizophrenia? Way to make light of those diseases. Mighty big of you. Tell you what I'll do, I'll just put you on ignore. That's probably what I should have done from the start.
Ignore the OP...he's the classic passive/aggressive "concern troll." Virtually every post is filled with this drivel.
I think our expectations were too high after all the draft pick predictions. And, maybe that got him thinking too much as well.
With both our point guards playing tonight and Noah (best shooter??) out for the game I predict a breakout game for Kam. Now I've been wrong before so don't be too surprised if it happens for the 2nd time.
With both our point guards playing tonight and Noah (best shooter??) out for the game I predict a breakout game for Kam. Now I've been wrong before so don't be too surprised if it happens for the 2nd time.
You can’t compare brea and kam Williams. When we signed Williams folks were like “who”? “He’s a 4 year guy depth etc”. No one expected Williams to run out and be a big difference maker especially this early. The guy is basically a freshman. Kam came to Kentucky to become what he believes he can become. He could find his groove by mid season, become a headcase or something in between. I believe he was mentally prepared for the pressure but playing in front of the rupp crowd he’s nervous. He will get over it and become more comfortable. Hopefully then we will see the things pope saw in him to sign this guy first.
noah is the one I’m concerned about. I don’t believe this team will reach its potential with noah playing any meaningful minutes especially in big games.
I'm all in on Kam, personally., Just gonna take some time for this team, with so many good players, for everyone to sort out their specific roles, get the substitution patterns set, and give everyone some time to get comfortable within the system. It's only 2 games into the season so far!
He's gonna be fine, as is our shooting. If the Valpo game doesn't show you a glimpse of what this team will be like with everyone healthy and together on the same page, clicking ?
yeah.
we good.
Go Big Blue !
He's gonna be fine, as is our shooting. If the Valpo game doesn't show you a glimpse of what this team will be like with everyone healthy and together on the same page, clicking ?
yeah.
we good.
Go Big Blue !
Yep. As soon as he gets in a game and hits a couple of 3's he will be back to hitting them consistently.
I have always told my son it takes 15 games to see how good or bad a team is. This is no different. Cam will come around
I just feel it’s way premature to worry about him now. 40% shooter with some draft projections. Also playing on a new team without offense installed.
Reactivity is weakness.
If we worry about him two games in that’s weakness in us.
If he’s still not performing ten games in that’s weakness in him. But that’s not where we are.
Reactivity is weakness.
If we worry about him two games in that’s weakness in us.
If he’s still not performing ten games in that’s weakness in him. But that’s not where we are.
Chandler is leading the team in scoring and 2nd in assists whole starting stow lol. If he were lighting it up from 3, he would be putting up 20+ per game