this is really good. And the below stat just makes you worry about Lebby and his usage of KT. It was obvious that KT gave us a better shot with more usage in our playbook even with Shapen taking the majority of the snaps. His loyalty to Shapen hurt Mississippi State in 2025.
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this is really good. And the below stat just makes you worry about Lebby and his usage of KT. It was obvious that KT gave us a better shot with more usage in our playbook even with Shapen taking the majority of the snaps. His loyalty to Shapen hurt Mississippi State in 2025.
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So you were good with the usage of Taylor when it was obvious his skillset was more suitable with the play of our OL. I think Taylor should have been used a lot more on the back 1/2 of the season.It’s pretty simple.
Very few freshmen QBs are ready to play especially in the SEC. Add to that Kamario made some really really bad passes and probably took some time to pick up the offense.
You can gripe about some things with Lebby but Kamario isn’t one of them.
even against ole miss he played well but made some bad passes that hurt us.
I think people are emotionalSo you were good with the usage of Taylor when it was obvious his skillset was more suitable with the play of our OL. I think Taylor should have been used a lot more on the back 1/2 of the season.
I feel like his passes were not good at times, but I think awful is stretching it a little bit. His timing is just a little off on some of his throws. I was impressed with how he played when he had opportunities.I think people are emotional
Fans yelled for Kamario more than they yelled for Dak as a freshman.
When kamario played at times he showed some promise but his passing was AWFUL. AWFUL.
I assume he developed some. In hindsight after the ole miss game I’d liked to have seen him more but that was the only time I felt that way.
Even still we had 3 sacks. And we had 3 three-and-outs in a row in the the 3Q of the Egg Bowl.this is really good. And the below stat just makes you worry about Lebby and his usage of KT. It was obvious that KT gave us a better shot with more usage in our playbook even with Shapen taking the majority of the snaps. His loyalty to Shapen hurt Mississippi State in 2025.
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In hindsight after the ole miss game I’d liked to have seen him more but that was the only time I felt that way.
And at least one of the TD runs from KT, I feel confident in saying that would 100% have been a 7 yard loss on a sack if Shapen was in there. We had gotten to the point that the Oline wasn't good enough to give Shapen time. That Mizzou offense was horrific with Shapen back there. KT in no way could have made it worse.Even still we had 3 sacks. And we had 3 three-and-outs in a row in the the 3Q of the Egg Bowl.
3 plays, 1:08
3 plays, 0:58
3 plays, 1:31
These drives accounted for 3:37 of total time of possession, allowing Ole Miss to score 17 unanswered points. Ballgame. Same exhaustion overload and boomerang effect we’ve seen all year.
Shapen might have completed the two easy 3rd down completions inside the red zone that Taylor whiffed on too. We could do what if’s all day.And at least one of the TD runs from KT, I feel confident in saying that would 100% have been a 7 yard loss on a sack if Shapen was in there.
Bottom line is we weren’t any better offensively vs a mediocre defense than we were all year with Shapen. KT potential is off the charts but he wasn’t ready this year.Shapen might have completed the two easy 3rd down completions inside the red zone that Taylor whiffed on too. We could do what if’s all day.
So then how would you characterize 15/31 (48%) 173 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT?He needs the work as all young QBs do, but to say his throwing is "awful awful" is more than stretching it a little bit.
I agree with you. Does that mean you have double digit IQ? Or did I just get lucky?I think people are emotional
Fans yelled for Kamario more than they yelled for Dak as a freshman.
When kamario played at times he showed some promise but his passing was AWFUL. AWFUL.
I assume he developed some. In hindsight after the ole miss game I’d liked to have seen him more but that was the only time I felt that way.
people have been throwing double digit IQ around so much lately, almost as if nearly half the people in the world don’t have one by definitionI agree with you. Does that mean you have double digit IQ? Or did I just get lucky?
Guess I’m the only one the saw the Ferrie missed FG or the Guyten fumble at the UF 15.Kamario had some misses but Shapen had more than his fair share too. The one in Gainesville kept us out of a bowl game
For KT to be successful, Lebby's going to have to re-tool his offensive philosophy. I think there is a variation of Art's system that optimizes KT's running and throwing abilities (and limits the routes that a QB with a HS career 58.85 COMP % needs to perfect). At this point in life, you are what you are as passer (don't make me show stats). Aside from the 173 rushing yards (bravo!) in the EB, what impressed me the most about KT were the passes to Traore. Best game that I can re-call by #8 ever. So, start there. Don't over complicated it Jeff.KT will be the starter next year and he will tuck it and run ALOT, and people will gripe that he only picked up like 5 yards when there was a receiver open. The next season, assuming he is here, will be better, and so forth.
He missed receivers by 6 ft at times. Wide open receivers.I feel like his passes were not good at times, but I think awful is stretching it a little bit. His timing is just a little off on some of his throws. I was impressed with how he played when he had opportunities.
I can link about 7 passes when he only has 20 ish attempts. Thats pretty bad. It’s not a knock. Dak was bad as a freshman as well.I think Lebby brought KT along fairly well. We weren't there. We don't know when it clicked for him.
He needs the work as all young QBs do, but to say his throwing is "awful awful" is more than stretching it a little bit.
You meanSo then how would you characterize 15/31 (48%) 173 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT?
And people will yell for the backup!!KT will be the starter next year and he will tuck it and run ALOT, and people will gripe that he only picked up like 5 yards when there was a receiver open. The next season, assuming he is here, will be better, and so forth.
Lucky AFI agree with you. Does that mean you have double digit IQ? Or did I just get lucky?
Kind of proves my point!people have been throwing double digit IQ around so much lately, almost as if nearly half the people in the world don’t have one by definition
Not to mention that the passes Shapen missed on weren’t easy throws.Guess I’m the only one the saw the Ferrie missed FG or the Guyten fumble at the UF 15.
30/55 isn’t a flex especially considering most of that was mop up duty against weak teams.You mean
30/55 (55%) 388 yds 4 TD 1INT
Just for ***** and giggles
65/395 6.2 ypc 7 TD
Just painting the entire picture.30/55 isn’t a flex especially considering most of that was mop up duty against weak teams.
The argument that KT wasn’t ready to be a full time SEC QB is at least an argument that can be had.You can gripe about some things with Lebby but Kamario isn’t one of them.
Guess I’m the only one the saw the Ferrie missed FG or the Guyten fumble at the UF 15.
Shapen misses a receiver by 6 inches on a 40 yard pass, he’s trash. Taylor misses a 10-yard pass by 6 feet, it’s cool. **Not to mention that the passes Shapen missed on weren’t easy throws.
Did Shapen miss on some easy throws? A few. But very low percentage.
You know why? Because Taylor doesn’t fall down by a 10 mph wind gust.Shapen misses a receiver by 6 inches on a 40 yard pass, he’s trash. Taylor misses a 10-yard pass by 6 feet, it’s cool. **
How does a closer miss help? If they both are missing open wrs give me the guy that can run, doesn't fumble constantly, is hard to sack, and has upsideShapen misses a receiver by 6 inches on a 40 yard pass, he’s trash. Taylor misses a 10-yard pass by 6 feet, it’s cool. **
He was 1/1 against Texas for. 1 yd TDJust painting the entire picture.
It was a bit more situational. He had a passing TD against TX & MO
there is no intelligent argument for him being ready to be a full time SEC qb.The argument that KT wasn’t ready to be a full time SEC QB is at least an argument that can be had.
It’s extremely relevant if you are screaming that KT should take over for shapenHey let’s spend time criticizing whether a true freshman is a good passer in the SEC or not.
That’s an idiotic argument if you are being serious.You know why? Because Taylor doesn’t fall down by a 10 mph wind gust.