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If Huggins really cares about WV, as much as he says he does, he will find a way to stop putting this trash on the court. Hold his assistants accountable. The only consistency the last few years has been him and his staff. Time to stop blaming the kids. Should change our names to the West Virginia Drought
New staff is needed. Recruiting has become stagnant. Offensive creativity is non-existent. And now defense is pathetic. Along with rebounding.
Huggins might be the most famous coach in the league. He also might be the worst coach in the league. I don't care about the wins at Walsh or Cinci. I care about now. And on Feb 14th, 2022, Bob Huggins is the worst coach in the B12. For the last 10 years every strength of a WVU team rested solely on the hustle of the players. We haven't had a team since the FF where you could say that they passed, shot, or dribbled well. Or that they ran an efficient offense. Nope. It's only ever been how hard they play and how scrappy and tenacious they are on defense. And quite frankly, as a player, to attribute THEIR hustle to the coach, is offensive.
Go ahead and defend this garbage, sycophants. Go assuage your sorrows by reminding yourself of glory days long since passed. Keep telling yourself that the man on the sidelines is the best this school will ever get. Keep citing wins at another school in another era to defend what is currently happening right now.
Because right now, we have the worst in-game coach in the league.
Go ahead and defend this garbage, sycophants. Go assuage your sorrows by reminding yourself of glory days long since passed. Keep telling yourself that the man on the sidelines is the best this school will ever get. Keep citing wins at another school in another era to defend what is currently happening right now.
Because right now, we have the worst in-game coach in the league.
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I’ve been saying for years that Huggins needs to focus on recruiting shooters and team them defense. Like the Final Four team he inherited. You can’t expect to win consistently with players who can’t even make layups. This program, imo, should consistently be in the top 5 in the conference every year. Not top 5 peak then fall off the map and rebuild back.
how was Huggins able to recruit top notch classes during his brief stint at Kansas St, yet has struggled here at WVU.
To expand on my thought about replacing assistants, I can’t think of 1 big that was better when he left than when he arrived outside of Kevin Jones. Maybe Devin Williams and Culver had ever so slightly better stats but one might argue that was more of a product of minutes than development. I just think new blood is needed on the staff.
Simply put. He tried. He's been going through the motions in recruiting his entire time at WVU.
Here, he knows that he walks on water. The moment he stepped foot on campus he knew he owned the school.
I watched a different game than Huggs. On the postgame show he commented on how happy he was about the team now...and much better things are. Say what?
I have heard that when he was in between coaching jobs, he did not have to worry as much about the NCAA looking over his shoulder as a current coach would. This would partly explain as to why five-star recruits flocked to Manhattan when they didn't do so before or after.
Has to be going through the 5 stages of grief. Is he currently in denial stage?
No defending that this is the second complete disaster of a season in the last 4 years, But it is revisionist history to say Huggins inherited the Final Four team. Unlike Holgorsen in 2011 who assumed the HC position just before the season, Huggins had taken over for JB whole seasons before the Final Four season. I'd say he inherited part of the team and then brought in what was necessary to hone that team. Huggins' teams strengths were traditionally JB's teams weaknesses and vice versa. They really were complimentary or synergistic. Huggins has not even come close to replacing what JB brought to the team in the 11 seasons he has had since and that is why WVU hasn't really exceeded the trend JB started during his 5 years here.
I agree with that. The staff does deserve more credit for some of the pieces they brought in initially that really put them over the top. My main point though was I think a philosophy in recruiting offensive players and teaching them defense will serve the program better than recruiting active defensive players. What happens when you miss on talent in that case? You have a team full of guys who can’t make shots and don’t play defense.
Huggins very recently spoke about how he and Roy Williams don’t recruit the same guys. Why not? All of the upper tier coaches with the big names are retiring. I get that it made sense 15-20 years ago but why doesn’t Huggins go after these kids now?
I agree with criticisms of Huggins. While at WVU, JB seemed to think strength training and playing tough in the paint was mutually exclusive with his motion offense. Huggins and some of his more sychophantic followers has the opposite issue in thinking a solid half court offense with competent shooters is mutually exclusive with defense, hustle, and rebounding.
It is currently the 12th season since WVU went to the Final Four and WVU hasn't been any closer during that span than JB was in 2004-2005. Currently WVU seems far from a possible Sweet 16 team which is concerning and past the point where it's reasonable to say WVU just needs to "get over the hump" or "turn the corner"
Thus, while Huggins has a great resume and has done good things for WVU basketball, his performance of late hasn't been great and history says that even great coaches at this point in their career is unlikely to do better than what they've done so far.
You have this situation nailed. The combination of Beilein's good and efficient offensive players and 1-3-1, which Huggins smartly used himself, and Huggins' athletes, better defensive players, and better rebounders was the "best of both Worlds" for WVU.
Huggins' time here has always thrived on having 2 or 3 pretty good players, a bunch of hard workers, and him creating a system for them to win once the players buy in to it. He's never gone all the way because to do that, you need at least one superstar, and/or 3 or 4 really good players with a system that fits. This year he has maybe one or two okay players and that's about it.
We've had a post presence, who can rebound and score. We don't have that this year. That's the achilles heal for Huggins offense.
Agreed...but Huggs didn't portal a scorer there. His biggest off season fumble.
I think he thought that a combo of Paulicap/Carrigan would put up 10+ points 10+ rebounds per night. They have been disappointing in those categories.
True. But then he says it takes a year for a player to acclimate to the way wvu does things. So...why bring in a couple one year guys?