Kenny Payne watch...

BiscuitEater

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Doesn't look like it ...

Has he received any coaching offers?

And it is probably because he has zero experience as a HC much like rick Ray.

Meanwhile, when Virginia Tech decided to make a move (after only two years), they went out and got a commitment from Buzz Williams. Buzz had been at Marquette for six years and taken them to the NCAAT five of the six years and to at least the Sweet 16 three of those years and Elite Eight once.

The keys being ... they had a commitment BEFORE they fired their coach and they hired an EXPERIENCED HC.

Va Tech has less of a BB resume than MSU by a long shot; the main advantage is their ACC membership; which after the on-cout performance by the likes of Duke, NC State, Pitt, Cuse & North Carolina</SPAN></SPAN> ... is not so shiny right now.

I truly hope Ray can put things together in '14/'15 because I really think he can be successful. This year, he needs to prove it in the W-L column.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
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For me as a fan - next season is do or die unless somehow we get Malik Newman to sign. Then he will obviously get one more year.
 

olblue.sixpack

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And it is probably because he has zero experience as a HC much like rick Ray.

Meanwhile, when Virginia Tech decided to make a move (after only two years), they went out and got a commitment from Buzz Williams. Buzz had been at Marquette for six years and taken them to the NCAAT five of the six years and to at least the Sweet 16 three of those years and Elite Eight once.

The keys being ... they had a commitment BEFORE they fired their coach and they hired an EXPERIENCED HC.

Va Tech has less of a BB resume than MSU by a long shot; the main advantage is their ACC membership; which after the on-cout performance by the likes of Duke, NC State, Pitt, Cuse & North Carolina ... is not so shiny right now.

I truly hope Ray can put things together in '14/'15 because I really think he can be successful. This year, he needs to prove it in the W-L column.

I looks like Shaka Smart could land at Marquette
 

JacksonDevilDog

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I may be wrong, but I feel that Ray's tenure depends on landing Newman. It will be a shot in the arm of the fan base that we can recruit again and land top talent again. He will be a first day starter for us. We will have some experience around him that will not leave him hanging out to dry. And like another poster mentioned, it will guarantee one extra year for Rick Ray. Hopefully, our boosters and season ticket holders are tired of losing.
 

engie

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May 29, 2011
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I may be wrong, but I feel that Ray's tenure depends on landing Newman. It will be a shot in the arm of the fan base that we can recruit again and land top talent again. He will be a first day starter for us. We will have some experience around him that will not leave him hanging out to dry. And like another poster mentioned, it will guarantee one extra year for Rick Ray. Hopefully, our boosters and season ticket holders are tired of losing.

Exactly...

Plus, Malik is high profile enough to potentially have a bit of a "Nkemdiche effect" with some other players -- and would probably have a carryover effect on our recruiting for a couple of years...
 

Miss.Stake

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Aug 31, 2012
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It would be huge for Ray and our basketball program. Those who follow bball recruiting, is it really mainly between us and UK? If Ray can show further player development and back that up with a +.500 record this year I think we have a good shot. Ray has been all over Malik from day 1. As with all hyped up HS basketball players these days everyone around him expects him to be a 1 and done and the pipeline of a UK or a KU will be hard to overcome for us
 

engie

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May 29, 2011
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It would be huge for Ray and our basketball program. Those who follow bball recruiting, is it really mainly between us and UK? If Ray can show further player development and back that up with a +.500 record this year I think we have a good shot. Ray has been all over Malik from day 1. As with all hyped up HS basketball players these days everyone around him expects him to be a 1 and done and the pipeline of a UK or a KU will be hard to overcome for us

Kentucky an LSU, with Kansas starting to make a run. LSU is a bigger concern than they are given credit for...

IMO, Malik is potentially worth $4mil+ to Rick Ray -- assuming getting him and the success it would likely bring would be enough to get him extended back to the 4 year maximum at a point he'd be entering the last year of his initial deal. Not that it's impossible for him without Malik, but the path is much less clear. In that, it seems Malik is a very big deal for him in more ways than just public perception...
 

esplanade91

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How is it Jeff Malone never gets brought up in these discussions? He was a decent head coach in the D-League, twice. Where as we don't know a damn thing about these second rate assistants, we know Malone is a great coach and player... He would just have to develop to recruiting game. That's what assistants are for.
 

57stratdawg

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Dec 1, 2004
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There's a very real chance Newman is required to play two years, as the NBA is reviewing the one-and-done rule. That just makes him that much more important.

Until I am told otherwise, I expect Newman to sign with Kentucky.
 

tcdog70

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Sep 24, 2012
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How is it Jeff Malone never gets brought up in these discussions? He was a decent head coach in the D-League, twice. Where as we don't know a damn thing about these second rate assistants, we know Malone is a great coach and player... He would just have to develop to recruiting game. That's what assistants are for.

Rekkon when Rick Ray will develop a recruiting game?
 

DawgatAuburn

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Is this comparable with the strong push we made for Marlon Humphrey with the notable exceptions of the sport and where their fathers played ball?
 

coach66

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or Skillet Bob Marlin at ULL, he went to the tourney this year and was a Sigma

Chi at State while I was there.
 

tcdog70

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Sep 24, 2012
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I see where Boston College might offer Tommy Amaker their Job. Wonder why we didn't talk to Him?
 

DAWG61

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I see where Boston College might offer Tommy Amaker their Job. Wonder why we didn't talk to Him?

Simple. SS wanted to gut the program on the cheap while money was/is tied into the football and new baseball stadium. You can hope to start seeing MSU actually care about basketball once the first pitch is thrown at the new Dudy. Not a day sooner. Yay!!