The federal government better have a bailout for you as they did for the banks and Wall Street during the Great Recession. People love to bash government, but we are sure as **** gonna need the federal government to keep this from becoming the Great Depression 2.
Kentucky eateries and bars closed indefinitely
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Also, and I say this not to cause panic, but pay attention to what Ohio announced. If they are right then 1% of the state has the virus. If the same is true nationwide we have 3.5 million infected. These closures are necessary unless we want 50% or more of the population to get the virus.
This kind of talk scares me. The slippery slope you mention. A few remarks from De Blasio mayor of NYC this weekend..
“This is a case for a nationalization, literally a nationalization, of crucial factories and industries that could produce the medical supplies to prepare this country for what we need,”
“the federal government needs to take over the supply chain right now.”
I hope you all are noticing the pattern. Soon everything will be closed and off-line. Don't be a fool, prepping is cool.
Wish you the best getting through this. I do wonder what is going to happen to the owners of these businesses. It sucks bad for employees but at least they can get unemployment if laid off while these are closed. We might have to do what some other countries have done and suspend rent/mortgage payments. Laid off people who live paycheck to paycheck are gonna be in trouble, and businesses are going to go bankrupt if they have to keep making payments while taking in no revenue.
We're very possibly looking at the country being on a wartime footing.
We need factories making respirators and the national guard building temporary hospitals right now. Our President just doesn't get it I'm afraid.
He's following the Ohio Gov... He's been reactive so far
The business aren't being forced to close. Curbside & delivery options remain. As for the bars, I order alcohol delivered frequently via Instacart, so business have options to continue to make money.
This is a safety issue, not much different than a fire marshal limiting how many patrons can be permitted in a building.
I don't see how this helps. Let's say I have the Corona Virus and I go through the drive thru. I hand my dirty money to the cashier giving them the virus and then they give it too everyone who comes through the drive thru behind me.
My wife is a nurse in a nursing home. She was scheduled to be at a conference in Louisville tomorrow. She just texted saying they finally canceled, not from the risk of these nurses bringing the virus back to the nursing homes, the tipping point was restaurants and bar closures. These are the people making medical decisions on how to handle these things.
I’m terribly sorry you’re having to endure this professionally. I have several friends in the restaurant biz. Many of them are rightfully very concerned about where their next check is coming from.
I got lucky and my employer is allowing all of us to work from home in the mean time. Went grocery shopping this morning and was able to get everything we needed. I was surprised to see so many elderly still going out.
I just wonder if we are essentially killing our economy and the livelihood of millions of business owners on an unknown. I know it's tough to be able to know and we're taking precautions to be safe, but I think we might be going too far when we really don't know if we need to be this drastic.
All that food that has flown off the shelves has landed somewhere. If not in your pantry, then in your neighbors, friends.
I am thankful to have my family, as well as good friends, neighbors, and most importantly, fellow Christians that I can call on for help.
This thing could get really bad, I'm not denying that. But I am also thankful that I have relationships with good people. Right now, supplies are plenty, I may just have to call on a friend to get what I need.
I am thankful to have my family, as well as good friends, neighbors, and most importantly, fellow Christians that I can call on for help.
This thing could get really bad, I'm not denying that. But I am also thankful that I have relationships with good people. Right now, supplies are plenty, I may just have to call on a friend to get what I need.
It's an excellent question. And when this is all over, it will be debated forever. Some will say, "See, it wasn't that bad. We cost ourselves billions by shutting down."
Others will say, "We did what it took to save millions of lives."
No one will know for sure.
“Elderly still going out”- wife and I went yesterday. Noticed the same. I finally convinced my elderly parents to let us do their shopping for them till this blows over. But it took a lot of convincing, old folks are stubborn and set in their ways. Sadly, I’m sure some we saw had no one to call on, or are too proud to ask for help.
I just don't see bars being able to make money in this environment. They are primarily a place for social gatherings. I can get cheaper liquor/drinks buying from a liquor store and making my own at home. I can't see ordering a pre-made cocktail and having it delivered.
Your point about the fire marshal is very fair, but for me this is more about the gov't limiting my right to do something. I should be able to decide for myself what's safe and what's not.
Yeah, we’ve went thru a couple drive thrus today actually, and it just seems so odd. I totally agree that people should learn to cook. Admittedly, I’m not that great of a cook. One of the major perks of having a good woman around that can. The wife is flat out phenomenal in the kitchen. I don’t even want to imagine getting hitched to one that couldn’t cook. [laughing]
That's not really how the disease is transmitted though. It's primarily from droplets in the air so reducing the density of people that can breathe in those droplets is the main concern. The virus can remain on objects, but it's much more difficult for it to gain entry to the respiratory tract that way than air transmission.
"I should be able to decide for myself what's safe and what's not" sounds cool at face value until you remember we have fellow citizens who think it's "safe'' to drive 120mph on the highway with half a handle of bourbon in their system.
Sometimes we actually need the government to tell us to chill out a bit, apparently. The more folks I meet, the more I agree with "big brother".
This is what I thought too. The elderly I did see were by themselves so that wondered if they had to go out on their own. I'm hoping we can all help each other during this time.
Reactive implies something bad happened first.
He has followed the lead of the Ohio Governor, but I still think it's a great move. He could have done nothing.
The world is changing for all of us as right now. For you and many others in your business, that change has given you a hard punch. Good luck to you and we can hope that this current problem can pass by as quickly as possible.
That's kind of a false equivalency. Am I putting others at risk by going to a restaurant? If I choose to go, I am taking the risk upon myself that I may come in contact with the virus. The likelihood of something bad happening is much less than driving at 120 loaded up on bourbon. I'm just not convinced this much precaution is warranted - time may prove me wrong!
That is a very intelligent and compassionate statement. Placing the welfare of others above self interest is such an uncommon thing today. I will keep you in my prayers.
I hope that you or one of the rafters members will tell us of your establishment. When this is over we’re going to have to make sure we take care of our brothers.
It is my understanding that they will be open until 5 so does that mean we cant get the virus until 5?
Yes, you can put others at risk by going out. You can contract the virus and spread it to others before showing any symptoms. There are numerous stories of this very thing happening all over the world. As numerous people have said, this isn't just about you. It's about our entire society. We all have to do our part.
Both Dewine and Beshear benefit from the fact that overreacting has zero penality other than some harm to workers and small business's . They miss a few paychecks - big deal to a Governor .. There is no risk to them being " bold" or seen as leaders here .. there will be no way to prove they over reacted by putting 100K low income workers out of work for a few weeks. Like the meme says " If nothing happens the measures were a good move"
You’d potentially catch it and give it to somebody else. So yeah, it’s not just about you.
That is half the thought process you should have. You should also be thinking about the possibility of you being a carrier that does not show symptoms. Someone that is putting others at risk. It’s not all about your rights. Since you didn’t think about that we need someone else to do it for you, hence the forced closings.
I’d support you if they would open. I’m just not afraid of eating out. Maybe I should be but I’m not. I hope it works out.
that dude scares the hell out of me. He is a drama boy. His comments like “we’ve never seen anything like this” aren’t helpful. It’s why the stores are empty. He needs to think about every word he says. He is causing the panic.
If you want to close everything that’s fine. But don’t add to drama. Instead reassure folks. Tell them not to panic buy. He is a terrible leader. Poster child for what not to say.
Then I should be told to stay home and not go anywhere! Am I not putting others at risk just by going to the store? I know they are just trying to mitigate the spread, but like I said, I don't believe the risk factor justifies this level of caution. High risk people should heed the warnings and stay home for sure. And if you don't want to catch it, you don't have to go out.