Khalil Mack
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Eh. I don’t think it makes them a contender like some do. Their offense still stinks.
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I don’t think we know about the offense yet. All new parts including coaches
I think it’s a great move but it could turn into Cutler...
I keep the 2 draft picks. I also wanted DeSean Watson and the 4 draft picks there we gave away for Tribisky
The red flags appear to be that Mack wanted to be (deservedly so) the highest paid defensive player in the league.
There are reports that Gruden has never met with Mack since becoming head coach, and Lordy can I not wait until it’s proven that Gruden is a dinosaur.
27 multi time pro bowler 40 sacks in his career so far. Defensive mvp - arguably the best linebacker in football right now.
Generational player. You do what you gotta do to get closer to a title. Two first rounders hurt but they won’t hurt as much if this guy plays here for the next 7–10 years and continues to dominate.
Filled a major need with one of the 2-3 best defensive players in the game right now.
Easily makes this a top 5 defense right now and one of the top front sevens in the game.
Generational player. You do what you gotta do to get closer to a title. Two first rounders hurt but they won’t hurt as much if this guy plays here for the next 7–10 years and continues to dominate.
Filled a major need with one of the 2-3 best defensive players in the game right now.
Easily makes this a top 5 defense right now and one of the top front sevens in the game.
What did the Bears lose, anyway?
Inevitably, those two first rounders would be damaged goods.
I imagine the Bears will make a fairly large front loaded offer that would make him the highest paid defensive player.
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We’re dinosaurs I guess.
I say take the best player who makes you better.
We will see how it plays out. No risk no reward. I like proven vs unproven. Who says what you get in the draft?
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Mack will receive a six-year, $141 million contract extension, which includes $90 million guaranteed and $60 million due at signing. His per-year average will be $23.5 million.
He's 27. He is not going to play, let alone dominate, another 10 years.
IMO, this is a trade a team makes when they are a player away. The Bears are far from a player away. We'll see how this pans out. The NFC North is very good. If next year's 1st round pick ends up being a top 10, not so good. And this trade better pay immediate dividends, because that what justifies the cost. How many games are they going to get out of him this year at his peak? He missed training camp. How long until he's in football shape and familiar with the Bears' schemes?
Hopefully he has kept in shape. Scheme wise, he could provide plenty of value immediately without understanding the full scheme. "Go get the QB" doesn't require too deep of knowledge and hes already the best they have at that. They can add the nuance later.
I think Mack’s track record coming in is much better than Cutlers. Can’t fault the Bears for taking a risk like this.
He’s a top 3 D player in prime on a HOF trajectory, you get him and pay him. It helps they have a QB on rookie deal. They can afford to pay another position TOP dollar.
If you do not like the move you are crazy, IMO.
Think about just Mack and Hicks????? Forget Floyd, those two will cause havoc.
If you do not like the move you are crazy, IMO.
Think about just Mack and Hicks????? Forget Floyd, those two will cause havoc.
For better or worse, when Pace identifies his guy, he goes after him.
I don’t trust the bears when draft picking in the first round anyways. How many 1st round busts in last 10 years? If they can trade draft picks for proven players I’m ok with it. Lol
I think the money against the cap is the only risk. Paying Stafford, Flacco etc.. limits options to round out a team. It really all comes down to TruBINski to be a pro bowl type QB in the next 3 years while on rookie contract for Bears to compete for a bowl in ‘19, ‘20 and ‘21
Pace will be gone at the end of the season and QB Trubisky will be a huge flop !
He sat on the bench at North Carolina for three seasons behind a undrafted free agent who has been on four teams and not sticking with any.
Oakland/ Las Vegas will be picking early the next two drafts thanks to Pace.
George Costanza could do a better job !
He sat on the bench at North Carolina for three seasons behind a undrafted free agent who has been on four teams and not sticking with any.
Oakland/ Las Vegas will be picking early the next two drafts thanks to Pace.
George Costanza could do a better job !
Ditka is a fraud. After Buddy Ryan left, Ditka won just one playoff game ...only one. With all that talent. There should be three, at least, Super Bowl trophies at Halas Hall..He's a blustery jerk. I wish he had run for US Senator ... all the dirt would have come out on him and he'd have been disgraced.
If you don't know how to draft then you won't win anyhow regardless of what trades and free agents you pick up. Those players you get in trades and free agents are players whose NFL clocks are already counting down.
I think I heard the average NFL player is in the NFL for 6 years. That's a short window to build a winning team. You have to make good draft picks every year to be succesful.
Success = Making good draft picks
Bring in the right individual from the Packers or Patriots brass into the organization to make the draft picks.
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I personally like the trade. The Bears have the money, needed a spark to enhance their top ten defense from last year, and their defense just got a real talented pass rusher, perhaps the best one in the NFL.
Given up the two first round picks is not so bad as it first seems, given that other teams have done that for untested 1st round QB's. Hopefully Mack is a good teammate and it appears he is given the reaction from his ex-teammates on the Raiders.
Given that the Bears have been picked apart passing by the other NFL North QB's in the past 5 years it seems to me that adding more pass rushing pressure on the D line will definitely limit some of what we have all seen as a shortcoming on the Bears.
Trubisky is an unproven QB but come on, last year was such a farce on offense for the Bears. It was a watered down offense at best. From what the usually negative media has been saying about Coach Nagy's offense schemes it appears the Bears are on the right track offensively.
Also they have added some serious play makers in Cohen, Miller, the two recently acquired WR's, the TE from Philly to complement Howard at RB, I for one am very hopeful this will be a winning season with maybe a playoff appearance.
Given up the two first round picks is not so bad as it first seems, given that other teams have done that for untested 1st round QB's. Hopefully Mack is a good teammate and it appears he is given the reaction from his ex-teammates on the Raiders.
Given that the Bears have been picked apart passing by the other NFL North QB's in the past 5 years it seems to me that adding more pass rushing pressure on the D line will definitely limit some of what we have all seen as a shortcoming on the Bears.
Trubisky is an unproven QB but come on, last year was such a farce on offense for the Bears. It was a watered down offense at best. From what the usually negative media has been saying about Coach Nagy's offense schemes it appears the Bears are on the right track offensively.
Also they have added some serious play makers in Cohen, Miller, the two recently acquired WR's, the TE from Philly to complement Howard at RB, I for one am very hopeful this will be a winning season with maybe a playoff appearance.
Easier for Mack to make an impact right away. But yes, it will look different come NOV.
Before the trade I looked at the Bears' schedule. Today it looks like they have a pretty tough schedule. Three tough games to start. Then they should win 4 of the next five at least. The next three weeks will pretty much determine where they sit in the division. Then the Giants and then they finish with four tough games. I'd be happy to see them win 8 or 9 games, even with the trade.
The NFL is so fluid year to year (for the most part) that it's hard to evaluate how tough a schedule is/was until after the season or at least the half way point. After week 3 everyone is hurt and guys off the street are starting for teams.
I'll have to dig up the article, but there was an analysis I read earlier in the season that point spread from the previous season was a better predictor of W-L than the prior seasons W-L. And while the Bears had one of the tougher W-L strengths of schedule, that point difference was much weaker, so they may be primed for a sneaky easy schedule.
TLDR, the Bears schedule goes from 8th toughest to 20th based on adjusted SOS formula.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-way-everybody-measures-nfl-schedule-strength-its-wrong/