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Kiffin tampering and getting players from BAMA
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Dickie isn't a billionaire. There are only two in Mississippi, and both of them have the last name Duff. Leslie Lampton's (Ergon) money is all split up now, so none of them is individually a billionaire.
You lost all credibility when you use “ya’ll”. What exactly is “ya’ll”?Ya'll need to quit with this fake news crap, and trying to find someone to blame. Cohen just told ya'll the truth. He also helped get the BI started. Ya'll are just mad that you root for a poor(er) school (than our SEC peers).
Mississippi State AD Cohen voices frustrations over current NIL state
Mississippi State AD John Cohen lambasted the current state of NIL legislation in college athletics while admitting all MSU can do is try to keep up in the bidding war.www.sportsbusinessjournal.com
Our fanbase just hated Cohen for pretty dumb reasons. He tried to do things differently, ya'll hated him for it. Perhaps it was time for him to leave and then get a true fundraiser in here. But we've tossed out everything we learned about doing things against the grain, while not doing great at fundraising.
If he’s only making $100k and buys a $100k car he doesn’t own it the bank does. If I save the $70k that I didn’t spend and invest it I’m way ahead because he car is a depreciating asset. There’s no case where the other guy is smarter financially.
I don’t believe that for a second. The Mass settlement wasn’t near that much and he hasn’t been worked much since….for obvious reasons. I am SOOOO glad he’s one of theirs . He is one of the worst humans on the planet. And that slime of a son
My point is the messaging didn’t help. We had a lot bigger problems but our people in charge weren’t exactly at the forefront promoting this heavily to our fans.
No your point is to blame Leach for our lack of NIl, which is not only dishonest but absurd.
I never disagreed with the outbidding, or the way OM goes about the NIL. My response was referring to the comment that said OM had billionaires and millionaires, and basically were so much wealthier than State fans/grads. As a whole, that’s not true. Giving OM too much credit.
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If you look like you’ve got money, more than likely you don’t have money. Image is everything for majority of OM people.
You can never trust what the internet says somebody is worth, it’s just guessing and often has an agenda behind it as well. I’ve heard of plenty of people that look up their net worth and can’t believe how wrong it is.
Who are their billionaires? A billionaire State alumni recently donated one of the largest gifts in the history of any public US universities. I was really hopping our two alumni millionaires would contribute.
No one argues the schools and culture are different. NO ONE! The fact that you continually throw out false statements as though they are fact is what makes you a 17’ing idiot. Both programs were on equal footing at the end of the 22 season until Coach Leaches death; however, morons such as yourself continually spew bs as though nothing significant had happened.
Can you please provide your insider info on how know we don’t spend money? Also, if State’s NIL continually requests contributions, State is poor and desperate; however, other programs, which are all, request assistance, they are well funded and support their programs. Interesting.
Charlie can you confirm we prioritized NIL to a sport where we are lucky to break even or lose money, while ignoring the football program, whose revenue supports all other MSU athletic teams? This poster undoubtedly is within the inner circle of the cigar boys.
You do realize there is an extremely large percentage of MSU grads that attended UM Law School or Medical school, who are Maroon and White though and through. Just another stupid narrative.
You are obviously a fanatical State fan deeply rooted in our football pantheon. Try google searching before making your false comments. State has had 3 9 plus win seasons since 2014, while winning 10 in 2014. Nothing to brag about, but just another example of posters who make **** up, to join the misery crowd. Congrats!!
I’m not sure where your AI generated bs came from, but Dickie Scruggs is not a billionaire. Very rich yes, but over blown by our own fan base.
I think you read my post out of context. I am actually arguing the same thing you are.
Nothing I said was false? We literally have three 10 win seasons in our history. That is just objective fact.
The group that did that predates Charlie and the BI. I’m referring to the Legacy Group that Lee VanHorn oversaw that was championed by the Gene’s Page posse like it was some game changer. They literally came out and said they were starting with baseball and planned to include other sports later. This is not new inside information I’m sharing, this was public knowledge in 2021 when this was announced.
OM has 2 huge givers if not Billionaires, then they are pretty close to it. One is a tobacco lawyer who raped many for unbelievable law firm fees and the other started a software co. many years ago and sold it to one of the Silicone Valley big software companies. And they do have quite a few 7/8 figure alums helping out. A couple of them were very high up in ESPN management before retiring and have invested well in AI opportunities several years ago before the big AI surge. And I don't even mention all the old money in the Delta where 10's of thousands of acres have been family owned for years and years. I would have to say they probably have larger sources of big money than we do. But we have been catching up over the last 10-15 years.
You need to refer back to your original post in which YOU stated States best record since 2014 was 8-4. I can understand how 10-3 and 8-4 are confusing. I’m pretty certain Leach’s last year were 9-4, which I also believe is better than 8 wins. Try sticking to facts.
The NCAA didn’t allow any monetary payouts by any University to players, prior to collectives, much less State to recruit baseball players. Just not factual.
Is this guy seriously, as an OM fan, taking a public picture next to a Confederate grave? How apropos.
Both of these statements above. It's really that and nothing else. Like 3dawgnight, I love Starkville because it's all i remember as a child. BUT for anyone who wasn't raised in the junction on weekends, Oxford has more appeal. I have kids who went to both universities (one split his time between MSU and UM). He'll tell you he loves MSU because it's all he's known growing up but when he takes off the maroon glasses, he said Oxford has more appeal to those who have no point of reference. And as Goatholder said, their football program has some wind in their sails and if you're a player who can get paid $1M to play at MSU right now or $1M to play at UM and you weren't brought up with an allegiance to either by your parents, you're probably going to UM. Plus as someone else said, UM has SIGNIFICANTLY more donor resources than MSU. I hate it but Facts are facts. UM checks all the boxes that matter in this new era.
Agreed. I'll put it this way...........would you be willing to trade places with in them? I bet the answer is "yes".
Some of the good ol boys hate to admit Leach went 9-4, it just makes them look stupid as they were behind all the moves that destroyed the program, taking a veteran 10 win roster to 5-7 in 2023, firing Leachs staff, scrapping the offense, installing the wing t, letting the same good ol boys hire incompetent staff. They broke it they own it.
He didn't work for the university at the time. Maybe you could get factual?
But as to @MSUDC11-2.0's point about baseball, who cares if they did prioritize it? We should.
In a 12 game regular season our best record since 2014 is 8-4. That was the statement I made and it is true. That is equal to Lane Kiffin’s worst 12 game regular season at Ole Miss. That was the point I was making.
I agree with that. They were getting it done with a lot of money and Kiffin, and we were getting it done with a little money and Leach.
Of course, all our RuN dA bAwL mouth-breathers got involved and here we are. We scrapped the one thing/idea that could help us be successful in this Wild Wild West era.
I’m going to guess he is only including regular season records and not bowl game victories. If you don’t include bowl wins, our best records are 8-4.
LOL, what I was thinking when I read that but Scott seemed to be on a roll last night and you got caught up in the wash.
Even if not, I have $70k and he gas an asset that lost 30% the minute he signed the sale paper.
Dickie Scruggs
David Nutt
Jim Barksdale
there are a couple more mid 9 figure tobacco attorneys in there.
All right there around a billion and they were 10-15 years ago. It’s doubled if they just let it sit in the market. The Duffs are the just easy to see public billionaires because it based on a current business valuation. The above all cashed out long ago so you can’t track it.
creekmore family (c spire) are probably close to a billion as a family.
Ergon Family (majority an ole miss family but there are a couple state fans scattered in there)
they you have a plethora of other 8-9 figure ole miss families scattered around.