you missed my post about getting a good QB and a new DC. I'd say that's constructive.
I agree with whoever said it's going to take 2-3 more recruiting classes for us to get back up to speed, but at the same time I don't see any reason why we can't be competitive with what we have and possibly go to a bowl four out of every five years. The difference is, we have to have good competent coaching and recruiting.
But to say that MSU can't recruit is foolhardy at best. We have a walk-on starting at QB. How many teams can say that in the SEC? I can't recall that ever happening during Jackie's tenure aside from the The Polish Rifle, which was a decoy as much as anything. I'm also 100% sure that would not have happened if Dan Mullen had been the HC a couple of years ago.
Croom decided to take the Bear Bryant approach to recruiting- try to get a bunch of "good hard-workin' kids" and then try to "coach them up". There are a couple of major problems with this: First of all, it's not 1977 anymore. The talent in the SEC has gotten to freak show quality, and a walk-on's general lack of athleticism is going to get exposed. Secondly, a lot of those "walk-ons" were Bama fans that could have gotten a scholarship, but were willing to walk-on because they wanted to play for the Bear. Bryant knew this, made those guys walk-on and then gave the scholarships to get some of the better players in the surrounding states to horde talent and keep those other players from beating his team. Of course, needless to say, you have to be a diehard Bulldog like Tyson Lee to want to pay your way to play for that clown and his band of merry men. That philosophy was an exception rather than the rule, anyway. I'm not sure you could pull that off anywhere nowadays with the cost of college as it is. Finally, Croom couldn't recruit because he had been in the NFL for over a decade. He had no clue how the system worked. I do think that he was starting to figure it out- he did get Tyler Russell, Fletcher Cox, Josh Boyd, Heath Hutchins, Charles Mitchell, Elliott of course and Mullen did indeed have to come in and convince them to stay, and to Mullen's credit he was able to land some guys like Bumphis, who I'm not sure that we would have gotten had Croom stayed, so I'll give Mullen that. But for Croom, it was simply too late, and a change had to be made.
But to say that an SEC school- even if it's Vandy or State can't recruit- is ludicrous
I agree with whoever said it's going to take 2-3 more recruiting classes for us to get back up to speed, but at the same time I don't see any reason why we can't be competitive with what we have and possibly go to a bowl four out of every five years. The difference is, we have to have good competent coaching and recruiting.
But to say that MSU can't recruit is foolhardy at best. We have a walk-on starting at QB. How many teams can say that in the SEC? I can't recall that ever happening during Jackie's tenure aside from the The Polish Rifle, which was a decoy as much as anything. I'm also 100% sure that would not have happened if Dan Mullen had been the HC a couple of years ago.
Croom decided to take the Bear Bryant approach to recruiting- try to get a bunch of "good hard-workin' kids" and then try to "coach them up". There are a couple of major problems with this: First of all, it's not 1977 anymore. The talent in the SEC has gotten to freak show quality, and a walk-on's general lack of athleticism is going to get exposed. Secondly, a lot of those "walk-ons" were Bama fans that could have gotten a scholarship, but were willing to walk-on because they wanted to play for the Bear. Bryant knew this, made those guys walk-on and then gave the scholarships to get some of the better players in the surrounding states to horde talent and keep those other players from beating his team. Of course, needless to say, you have to be a diehard Bulldog like Tyson Lee to want to pay your way to play for that clown and his band of merry men. That philosophy was an exception rather than the rule, anyway. I'm not sure you could pull that off anywhere nowadays with the cost of college as it is. Finally, Croom couldn't recruit because he had been in the NFL for over a decade. He had no clue how the system worked. I do think that he was starting to figure it out- he did get Tyler Russell, Fletcher Cox, Josh Boyd, Heath Hutchins, Charles Mitchell, Elliott of course and Mullen did indeed have to come in and convince them to stay, and to Mullen's credit he was able to land some guys like Bumphis, who I'm not sure that we would have gotten had Croom stayed, so I'll give Mullen that. But for Croom, it was simply too late, and a change had to be made.
But to say that an SEC school- even if it's Vandy or State can't recruit- is ludicrous
