KV reports... not looking good for Sidney ever playing at MSU...

StateLover

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to be good from the lawyer side of this Let the NCAA fish for the rest of the summer--Jackson has run this race before.

The only question I have is from Renardo's side. Will he start attending classes without being cleared prior to August 24 or head to Europa?

I think if he just goes to school he will eventually be cleared and be suiting up in November.
 

patdog

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I don't think the NCAA really has anything on him, but it sure looks like they've just decided that he's dirty and is going to delay things to the point where he misses this season, hoping he'll then go pro. If by some miracle they do clear him, that'll just be a bonus.
 

DawgatAuburn

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I have trouble doing it. His name is on the front page of this board at least five times a week, and you can't help but allow yourself to think about it.

What will probably happen is he will get cleared, we will skyrocket up the preseason polls, he will look unstoppable in practice this fall, then blow out both knees and break the wrist in his shooting arm in an off-campus incident the night before the first regular season game.
 

fishwater99

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/basketball/la-sp-renardo-sidney16-2009jul16,0,7513736.story

"Sidney's amateur status is being reviewed by both the school and NCAA, the process stalled because his family has yet to turn over information that has been requested about one of at least two personal loans it took out in recent years, according to sources.

Another source with knowledge of the situation, but who is not authorized to speak about it publicly, said the Sidney family needs to explain what collateral was used to gain one of the loans.

NCAA rules forbid a student-athlete's family from receiving loans based on the athlete's "reputation or skill or pay-back potential as a professional athlete."

<div class="storybody"> A Mississippi State official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, acknowledged that the collateral "could be an issue." The source also said it was "50-50" whether Sidney would ever play for the Bulldogs.

http://nems360.com/bookmark/2968736
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hotdigitydog

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No doubt whatsoever and they will shed as much negativity as possible as long as it doesn't affect USC...
 

RebelBruiser

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It's looking to me like the NCAA doesn't want to let the guy in, and it's probably because his case has been so public.

It's a lot like Powe's case in that they let guys in who take a myriad of courses all the time, but the fact that it became so public caused them to drag their feet more than normal. They are different reasons for the delays, but the common theme is PR.

The NCAA wants to appear to be completely amateur and academic centered, so they will drag their feet when a public case comes along that threatens their reputation in either area.

I'll bet they continue to request more information until it's past the deadline for Sidney to enroll. They may clear him mid-fall semester if they can't find anything on the case, but I'll bet he doesn't get cleared in time for school to start and at best he joins the team in the spring for SEC play.
 

ScoobaDawg

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that the LA Times cares if he plays at MSU or doesn't want him to play.

You can't be serious.
It's news about a top 10 player in the country..and bad news at that. Of course they are going to report it.
 

hotdigitydog

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No argument from me on that.....However, I also think they don't want aything to surface on USC either.......Talk about what's going on at MSU and not on his dealings with USC....
 

maroonmania

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I mean how many other newspapers across the country are reporting on Sidney. Yeah, he did live out there for 2 years but he's now signed to play 2000 miles away so it really should be none of their local concern one way are the other on this. And it is NOT a national story. As I said, how many other metro newspapers have run ANYTHING on Sidney or any other HS basketball recruit that might be having eligibility issues. Yeah, ESPN writers may be continuing to throw out a story or two on this but not newspapers across the country. Whether its to protect USC/UCLA or just a vendetta to make sure Renardo doesn't play anywhere (since he couldn't play in LA), I don't know, but there is certainly an alterior motive for the LA Times in all of this.
 

fishwater99

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This is not looking good for Sidney to ever play for MSU...<a href="http://nems360.com/bookmark/2970909">

http://nems360.com/bookmark/2970909</a>

Williams wrote, "The <span class="caps">NCAA</span> determines which records are necessary to reach an accurate, well-informed decision on a prospective student-athlete's initial eligibility. The <span class="caps">NCAA</span> takes this responsibility seriously and only requests the information it needs to make such decisions. There is extensive case precedent for requests of specific information to include bank records if they are relevant to the case."</p>

But will the <span class="caps">NCAA</span> ever get those records? I spoke with Tupelo attorney Jim Waide, who's dealt with the <span class="caps">NCAA</span> before, most recently in Jackie Sherrill's lawsuit against the organization. Waide admitted to having a low opinion of the <span class="caps">NCAA</span>, but that doesn't change the fact that, as he pointed out, it does not have subpoena power when it comes to those bank records.<a href="http://nems360.com/bookmark/2979298">

http://nems360.com/bookmark/2979298</a>

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He then went on to question under what authority the <span class="caps">NCAA</span> was acting "for their attempted invasion of this family's zone of privacy." That was a reiteration of something he'd told me earlier in the day. Jackson closed with this:</p>

"Mr. Williams' comments essentially implied that 'we may have done it before, so we can do it again whether it is legal or not.' His comments were not particularly persuasive and did not help to move this inquiry forward. (The <span class="caps">NCAA</span>) is not immune to the protections that are granted to citizens by state and federal law, althought they might perceive themselves to be."

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RebelBruiser

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Take your shots, but my point still stands. Both situations are/were highly publicized, and both are situations that threaten to make the NCAA's look more like a semi-pro sports league than an amateur, academic driven association, which is what they strive to be, at least in appearance.

The NCAA is going to try to drag its feet long enough that Sidney will just give up and spend his off-season working out in preparation for the NBA draft. They know they probably won't be able to find anything on him, but they also know that his situation is the poster of what's wrong with college basketball, so they're going to try to keep him out with stall tactics if possible.

They tried to push Powe to just give up and go to a Juco and try the NFL draft without ever going to an NCAA school. They're going to try the same thing with Sidney.
 

patdog

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maroonmania said:
Whether its to protect USC/UCLA or just a vendetta to make sure Renardo doesn't play anywhere (since he couldn't play in LA), I don't know, but there is certainly an alterior motive for the LA Times in all of this.