Kyle and Terry

mal359

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Shea did things the right way, played in a stacked conference, and used trick plays. He also beat a ranked team once.
 

csphi

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Jul 26, 2001
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Shea did things the right way, played in a stacked conference, and used trick plays. He also beat a ranked team once.
How do you know Shea did things the right way?

How old were you when he was here? 2
 

mal359

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How do you know Shea did things the right way?

How old were you when he was here? 2

"We had a chance and we tried to make the best of it," Shea said. "We did it the right way. We didn't have any scandals or any problems. I wish we just could have won a few more ballgames."
 

KJRU

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If you ask Fludd he'd say he was doing things the right way too. After all, he didn't know about the policy he violated, and the lack of discipline is the players fault not his.
 

rufeelinit

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Flood inherited a much better situation than Shea. I also think Shea was a much better game day coach.
 

RUich

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Although neither really had all that great institutional support, you are still talking about two very different eras. Shea inherited very little talent and never added any which is on him. Rutgers was still into the idea that going big meant having bigger and better schools on the schedule but not doing anything to try to become equal to them. The coach he replaced was fired!
Flood inherited a much more talented squad and the still strong aura of a rising power as proven by GS going to the NFL. This gave him so much more than Shea could have dreamed for. This also gave Flood the ability to win games without really doing too much game planning/coaching to screw himself up.
Shea is still considered a football guru which is something I think we can all agree will not be Flood's fate.
 

KJRU

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Although neither really had all that great institutional support, you are still talking about two very different eras. Shea inherited very little talent and never added any which is on him. Rutgers was still into the idea that going big meant having bigger and better schools on the schedule but not doing anything to try to become equal to them. The coach he replaced was fired!
Flood inherited a much more talented squad and the still strong aura of a rising power as proven by GS going to the NFL. This gave him so much more than Shea could have dreamed for. This also gave Flood the ability to win games without really doing too much game planning/coaching to screw himself up.
Shea is still considered a football guru which is something I think we can all agree will not be Flood's fate.
I agree.
 

Virginiarufan

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Shea told a reporter, probably Luicci that in his opinion RU would not be a big time program and couldn't recruit good players. This was right after he got hired and went on vacation for 2 weeks when he should have been here getting to know his players. Shea was completely useless even more so than our current moron of a head coach. The fact Gruninger stuck with him for 5 years showed he was more interested in playing golf than leading an athletic program and the fact the BOG stuck with Gruninger for decades showed they had zero interest in sports or the reputation of the school.
Only when Mulcahy/Pernetti and Schiano were here were we on the right path.
 
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RUBand

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Two absolute schmucks.
I have a lot of respect for Flood....I don't see him in the NFL, and his budget at RU is immeasurably greater than what Shea had (unfortunately, while Shea had some huge obstacles, he also made some huge mistakes).
 

RobertG

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Please do not even begin to defend Terry Shea in any way shape or form. Shea was a complete and total disaster in all facets of the game, he drove RU to lows never before seen. I don't care if you like, hate, or are indifferent to Flood but, any defense of Shea is completely wrong, incorrect and indicates possible brain injury or exposure to lead paint as a child.
 
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Shea drove the Edsel off the road, Flood drove the Cadillac into a tree and then set it on fire and fiddled as it burned.
 

mal359

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The Big East was probably the strongest conference back then. If not the Big East, then the Big 8.
 

OldManRiver1

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I must have missed it....when could this program ever have been called a Cadillac ?

Exactly!!!...unbelievable how some people believe their own crap.

I'd say we upgraded from a Yugo to a Ford Escort....Caddy??...NOT IN OUR HOUSE for sure!
 
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It was a Cadillac went it when the HC had more wins against teams with winning records than player arrests and more bowl wins than suspended games
 

Kbee3

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It was a Cadillac went it when the HC had more wins against teams with winning records than player arrests and more bowl wins than suspended games

That doesn't sound like a Cadillac.....more like a Honda Civic.
 

eceres

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When Michigan,Miami, and anNFK team want your head coach your doing better than an escort. Crazy self haters