Kyrie Irving thinks the earth is flat.......REALLY

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Basketball's are round.....right?

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No flat earth, but I sometimes wonder if we're living in a simulation with the mandela effect changing everything around like it's nothing. Freaking Budweiser was named after Anheiser and that used to be common knowledge, like Busch beer was named after Busch in Anheiser Busch. Now it's Anheuser Busch and supposedly always has been, even though I and thousands of others remember Anheiser and I know people who live near Busch Gardens in Fla who all swear the company name changed.

I don't remember any of that but I like the story.
 

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Religion tells you what to believe just like politicians do. They both lie to suit their agenda. Science seeks understanding and changes it's theories based on demonstrable evidence. Religion requires faith in a story and ignores a lot of stories that doesn't serve it's purpose. Science applies reason to seek understanding and will change it's theory according to what empirical evidence suggests. I have no issue with spiritual people unfortunately most religious people thinking of themselves and their desires, persecute any that don't support their beliefs. Buddhists are much closer to following the words of Christ than the vast majority of American Christians.

Ooooh! A militant atheist! I hope you don't smear our good program's name by wearing a UK jersey at your Soros backed marches and protests...

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A link to the research behind the theory? no way. I'm too drunk and not interested in doing your research.

I studied the topic to death for over a year in college at Union University, a bible school, and had a excellent professor who invited lots of discussion and thought provoking discussion on the topic. Very busy classes.

I'm not totally sold on anything, but I've seen enough and learned enough through the years to say - I've got no idea but I don't believe in the broad consensus of "billions" of years old.

As far as refuting, anything can be refuted. Believe it or not there are flat earth scientist.

One thing that always intrigued me was the math behind supernovas. If the earth was billions of years old we should see more of them in the visible universe. Just so happens the number comes to about 7,000 years worth. But anyway, there's a good start for ya! Let me know how it goes.
A Bible school. That explains everything and it all makes sense now.
 

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I guess pictures from space and the fact that the Earth is rotating, giving us night and day are inconsequential. I wonder why there are no photos taken at the edge of the Earth???
 

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I guess pictures from space and the fact that the Earth is rotating, giving us night and day are inconsequential. I wonder why there are no photos taken at the edge of the Earth???

To flat earthers, all pictures showing a globe earth are photoshopped by NASA for some reason. Still not sure what the actual conspiracy is.

The sun is actually really small and moves in a circular path above the flat earth. Rather than being a raging ball of plasma, think of it more like a flashlight.

I can't remember the nonsense about why we don't go to the edge of the flat earth, but it's pretty in line with the other stuff.

And there's a dome covering the flat earth, kind of like a snow globe.
 

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To flat earthers, all pictures showing a globe earth are photoshopped by NASA for some reason. Still not sure what the actual conspiracy is.

The sun is actually really small and moves in a circular path above the flat earth. Rather than being a raging ball of plasma, think of it more like a flashlight.

I can't remember the nonsense about why we don't go to the edge of the flat earth, but it's pretty in line with the other stuff.

And there's a dome covering the flat earth, kind of like a snow globe.

They've made a couple of movies about that actually.
 

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To flat earthers, all pictures showing a globe earth are photoshopped by NASA for some reason. Still not sure what the actual conspiracy is.

The sun is actually really small and moves in a circular path above the flat earth. Rather than being a raging ball of plasma, think of it more like a flashlight.

I can't remember the nonsense about why we don't go to the edge of the flat earth, but it's pretty in line with the other stuff.

And there's a dome covering the flat earth, kind of like a snow globe.

Have you guys not seen the Truman Show. That's legit. We all live in one giant Truman Show like set.
 
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This thread is good for a few laughs. There are some things in this world that can't be debated yet people try still . The earth is not flat , evolution is the process by which organisms evolve over time ect. This isn't debatable . Now if you want to debate what truly set these things into motion and the existance of a higher being/beings that is another story but it blows my mind how dumb some people can be . Truly this is a microcosim of why the world is in the state it is in. That's all I will add. Levi earlier summed it up pretty well. You don't need a lick of intelligence to post on the internet .
 

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evolution is the most frail piece of garbage"scientist" ever invented. More holes than a graveyard. Even if I were an atheist I think I'd just stop pushing it.

We're worse off than we were to start with. And I'd say if you were raised catholic, you were lied to, but that's another topic all together.
Evolution is among the most well-supported and tested explanations science has ever had.
 

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Not macro-evolution, there are six types of evolution, all are proven except macro-evolution.
That is not true. Macroevolution is simply the effects of the lower tiers accumulated.

Here is a concept called a ring species, in which a species evolves in a ring pattern (i.e. around a mountain or some other obstacle) and the intermediate species can interbreed. However, the two species at the "ends" of the ring cannot.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species
 

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Just not into argon and carbon 14 decay half life constants, huh? Don't feel bad, I had an uncle that didn't believe we landed on the moon.

Now, what I expect is for some dumbass NC fan to pipe in and say that Irving proves there is no benefit to attending class.

Oh and the dating thing, damn accurate, at least within statistical bounds. Not precise, but then they don't claim to be.

Yeap, being an old chemistry major I firmly believe in the rough dates we have for the earth/solar system and the universe.

As to the flat earth we all watch our basketball and football games and movies and news on cable or satellite TV all the time. If those satellites were not orbiting a round earth the technology would not work. Even in our cars Sirius Radio uses satellites that move around a round earth.

I really struggle with people who LIE about scientific facts that directly impact their lives. They rail against evolution, yet are more than ready to go to the doctor when they are sick to take advantage of biology. Then selectively lie about evolution that true biology supports and on which it depends. You can’t be a biologist and not believe in evolution as all facts point to it.
 

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Yeap, being an old chemistry major I firmly believe in the rough dates we have for the earth/solar system and the universe.

As to the flat earth we all watch our basketball and football games and movies and news on cable or satellite TV all the time. If those satellites were not orbiting a round earth the technology would not work. Even in our cars Sirius Radio uses satellites that move around a round earth.

I really struggle with people who LIE about scientific facts that directly impact their lives. They rail against evolution, yet are more than ready to go to the doctor when they are sick to take advantage of biology. Then selectively lie about evolution that true biology supports and on which it depends. You can’t be a biologist and not believe in evolution as all facts point to it.

I struggle to say it's lying, though there is a certain amount of intellectual dishonesty involved in these contrarian ideas. I think it's more a reluctance or failure to understand the premises for all the science. The better we can describe biological systems, physical and chemical processes, the better we can harness the world around us. There isn't some deep conspiracy to undermine a belief system.
 

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As to the flat earth we all watch our basketball and football games and movies and news on cable or satellite TV all the time. If those satellites were not orbiting a round earth the technology would not work. Even in our cars Sirius Radio uses satellites that move around a round earth.

But the "acquiring signal" message that you get on your Sirius radio is happening because the satellite is passing over one of the edges of the earth.
 

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That is not true. Macroevolution is simply the effects of the lower tiers accumulated.

Here is a concept called a ring species, in which a species evolves in a ring pattern (i.e. around a mountain or some other obstacle) and the intermediate species can interbreed. However, the two species at the "ends" of the ring cannot.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species
There is no such thing as a ring species, there are no known cases. The last one attempted to be (Phylloscopus trochiloides) used as and example was debunked.
 

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I studied the topic to death for over a year in college at Union University, a bible school, and had a excellent professor who invited lots of discussion and thought provoking discussion on the topic.

And there it is. The words "bible school" instantly explains your thought process here, as bible schools are our only institutions pushing this line of propaganda, because they can't deal with the fact that science proves that the book that underlies their school's existence can't be taken literally.

Do you also believe all those dinosaur bones we find were never part of actual dinosaurs, that there was a boat containing a pair of every species on Earth, and similar such whack a doodlery pushed by bible schools today?
 
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Here's a good website with easy to read, evidences for evolution.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

If that's too tl;dr for you (although I would suggest reading some of it if you're truly intellectually curious about the topic), here's a short video from biologist Ken Miller. FYI, he's also a Christian.


More like idolator!:rolleyes:

I'm not sure why some people don't believe we've got monkey genes in us.

We're so alike that we even throw **** at each other,
 

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Did you watch or read anything that I linked? I've read and have seen many Kent Hovind lectures. I actually attended a Christian school where Kent came to speak to us. I was a Young Earth creationist growing up.

Kent Hovind holds degrees from unrecognized universities in Religious/Christian Education. He believes the US government was behind 9/11 and the OKC bombing. He's also a believer that the government is actively withholding a cancer, HIV and alzheimer's cure from us (apparently, it's a compound that produces cyanide). He also served a lengthy sentence for "failing to pay taxes, obstructing federal agents and structuring cash transactions".

Ken Miller obtained a bachelor's degree from Brown University in Science. He went on further to receive his Doctorate from the University of Colorado Boulder in biology. He taught at Harvard and is now a research biologist, as well as a professor of biology at Brown University.

If we're looking for an informed authority on these issues, who seems more likely to hold the more educated opinion? Which brings me back to my original question, did you even read, or watch, the links I provided?
 
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Did you watch or read anything that I linked? I've read and have seen many Kent Hovind lectures. I actually attended a Christian school where Kent came to speak to us. I was a Young Earth creationist growing up.

Kent Hovind holds degrees from unrecognized universities in Religious/Christian Education. He believes the US government was behind 9/11 and the OKC bombing. He's also a believer that the government is actively withholding a cancer, HIV and alzheimer's cure from us (apparently, it's a compound that produces cyanide). He also served a lengthy sentence for "failing to pay taxes, obstructing federal agents and structuring cash transactions".

Ken Miller obtained a bachelor's degree from Brown University in Science. He went on further to receive his Doctorate from the University of Colorado Boulder in biology. He taught at Harvard and is now a research biologist, as well as a professor of biology at Brown University.

If we're looking for an informed authority on these issues, who seems more likely to hold the more educated opinion? Which brings me back to my original question, did you even read, or watch, the links I provided?
You are using an ad hominem argument here. No, I didn't read or watch what you posted, you know as good as I do that neither one of us is going to change our position on this subject, there is nothing the links could contain that would change my opinion. Just as there is nothing I could link that would change your mind. Every argument for evolution can be disputed, every argument for creation can be disputed, so we could go around and around all day.
 

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Methodists are pro-temperance. John Wesley was, and the church has been for at least 100+ years. Thomas Welch created the Welch's company to give Methodists a way to receive the Eucharist without drinking alcohol. This is especially true for broad and low church Methodists
 
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