Man, Lamar once again just can't get a break in these playoff games. The INT didn't hurt because Buffalo punted, but his fumble after the bad snap is just typical of the **** that seems to happen in the playoffs.
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If Buffalo scores at the end of the half, they have a chance to go up 28-10 because they get the second half kick. That basically takes Henry out of the game and makes it next to impossible.
Henry is basically out of the game already. It must be the frigit cold because Buffalo just has no issues with the weather. This game is where it's at due to the fumble by Lamar on the bad snap. They were in position to go up at least 10 to 7 when that happened.
Not only was it a fumble but it was perfectly picked up and ran 50 yards. There's been two dropped passes by the Ravens, one that would have been a big play.
Nevertheless, it's the same thing each playoff season. The Ravens simply don't perform at the level they do in the regular season and they just can't get the breaks the other team does.
Sooner or later it will eventually line up perfectly for Lamar in the playoffs, because he's just so damn good, and he's such a determined competitor.
Can't blame Lamar for Andrew's fumble. See this is the **** that happens with the Ravens in the playoffs. Lamar will be blamed for again not being able to win the big playoff game.
It's such a shame because Lamar works hard and is dedicated, yet he can't find enough good luck in the playoffs.
It's such a shame because Lamar works hard and is dedicated, yet he can't find enough good luck in the playoffs.
You have to be kidding me? Andrew's again and the Ravens lose. This was not Lamar's fault. Once again, the only luck he has in the playoffs is bad luck.
Andrews also had a drop before Lamar’s fumble. Just a brutal game for Andrews. Lamar was fine the fumble was on him but led the tying drive then Andrew’s drop an easy pass.
Andrews must feel sick about that game. He’s given them years of great service and been Lamar’s most reliable receiver. Tough loss.
The first pass of the game Henry should have caught and nobody was around him. He would have ran 50 plus for a TD. Also, if they go for the extra point both times, game is tied anyways. It stinks, but Marino was the same way. Regardless, Buffalo ain't going much further, the nfl is wanting T Swizzle at the super bowl.
I was screaming the whole game about Ravens ball carriers with one hand on the ball…and it got Andrews on his fumble.
I am just not a big fan of using terms like breaks or luck, because it usually takes away from what I think it takes away from the realities of coaching, scouting and execution. It is age old in football in playoff games, but turnovers are what get you beat and that was there in technicolor last night. Lamar turns it over in the Playoffs. I think more than anything the loss of Zay Flowers had a huge impact.
I am just not a big fan of using terms like breaks or luck, because it usually takes away from what I think it takes away from the realities of coaching, scouting and execution. It is age old in football in playoff games, but turnovers are what get you beat and that was there in technicolor last night. Lamar turns it over in the Playoffs. I think more than anything the loss of Zay Flowers had a huge impact.
The INT did hurt because it takes away an opportunity to come back down and score and put more pressure on Buffalo.
The location and the weather yesterday reminded me of the SMU loss at PSU; the combination of temperature, moisture and wind played a significant impact in both contests, yet I understand how these two (2) events followed the historical precedents, no blame intended whatsoever.
With that said, I would like to have seen the Ravens and Bills have played that contest inside covered stadium where the weather could not effect one opponent more than another.
Congratulations to the Bills, they deserve the win. Thank you Lamar, for the enjoyment that you delivered to me and so many of your fans.
With that said, I would like to have seen the Ravens and Bills have played that contest inside covered stadium where the weather could not effect one opponent more than another.
Congratulations to the Bills, they deserve the win. Thank you Lamar, for the enjoyment that you delivered to me and so many of your fans.
Buffalo is a tough place to play in January and the Bills have plenty of experience in those conditions. That said, Ravens could not help tripping over themselves with turnovers and dropped passes. At the end of the day, it's the QB that pick the options on each play. I thought LJ played tense and made some poor decisions down the stretch. I was surprised they went away from Henry on the last drive. The drive before that they ran it for 70+ yards and got to the end zone. When they were at 2 yd line with 1st down, they had 2 negative yardage plays and settled for FG. Back to back QB sneak would have gotten them those 2 yards. It's easy to play coach in hindsight but Ravens left a few pts on the field and shot themselves in the foot for another playoff loss.
Probably not a popular take here. I love LJ,but tbs he has a tendency to lose his focus at the biggest moments. Take the sack on that bad snap and fumble. He has to be better than Allen.
All that aside he is really good when he's got laser sharp focus. He had it early,lost it, then was poised to get his team into an overtime late,save one last drop.
All that aside he is really good when he's got laser sharp focus. He had it early,lost it, then was poised to get his team into an overtime late,save one last drop.
Weather is why it is critical that you earn homefield advantage, but that's where Baltimore is a bit hamstrung basically having to go no worse than 5-1 in the AFC Central meaning you have to sweep both the Bengals and Browns and split at worse with Pittsburgh. But I'll be blunt...going back 70 years when have you ever seen a pleasant winter day footage for a game played in Baltimore. The weather isn't any better in KC.
Lamar's just going to have to find a way to get through it; it's going to be his albatross until he does it.
Lamar's just going to have to find a way to get through it; it's going to be his albatross until he does it.
Once again a playoff loss was not on him. Lamar accounted for all 88 yards with 3 minutes to go for the TD, and threw a perfect pass that was dropped on the 2 point try. The game would have most likely went to overtime.
Yes, he had two turnovers, but no successful QB in the playoffs have perfect games. No one would be saying anything about the turnovers had Lamar won the game in overtime.
Who knows why he can't seem to get over the hump in the playoffs. What I know is it's not always been due to any poor play by him. He will get to the Super Bowl eventually because he's too good and he's dedicated.
Yes, he had two turnovers, but no successful QB in the playoffs have perfect games. No one would be saying anything about the turnovers had Lamar won the game in overtime.
Who knows why he can't seem to get over the hump in the playoffs. What I know is it's not always been due to any poor play by him. He will get to the Super Bowl eventually because he's too good and he's dedicated.
For some reason Lamar will always have his distractors. Maybe it's because he didn't go to Oklahoma or Ohio State and instead went to Louisville? Some just never felt he was a legit QB, despite what they saw on the field.
In the NFL it's been this stubbornness to defend why Lamar was taken with the last pick of the 1st round. People need to defend their teams for passing on him. So when he loses in the playoffs they feel redeemed.
So it will take a Super Bowl appearance, then a win before all of that nonsense ends, and for some it never will. Fans love to hate.
In the NFL it's been this stubbornness to defend why Lamar was taken with the last pick of the 1st round. People need to defend their teams for passing on him. So when he loses in the playoffs they feel redeemed.
So it will take a Super Bowl appearance, then a win before all of that nonsense ends, and for some it never will. Fans love to hate.
I tend to agree with you although I think he loses focus because he gets too hyped up on winning. I think if games were played to 50 points without a clock, he would win almost every game. He hasn't learned to value possessions. There are only so many opportunities you are given in a game, especially if your defense doesn't get turnovers or 3 and outs. Lamar is like ok, I'll do it the next possession until there's no next possession and the game is over. Ravens are so much better when they get that early lead and their defense does the job. Thats why that early INT stopped their momentum and gave it to the Bills. With all the weapons the Ravens have, they can't afford quick 3's and out and there seem to be too many of those. We all know that Lamar is the best player on the field I think he just needs to learn to manage his emotions and possessions better. I think his postgame comments confirm that he gets too emotional although we don't always see it.
I agree with this but would like to add that the past three losses in the playoffs were to the Bills twice and the Chiefs. Not exactly upset losses there.
The only upset loss was to Tennessee and Derrick Henry ironically. I think too much is made of Lamar's losses in the playoffs over other top level QB's. It's not like he's been choking the wins away. The Ravens have lost to some excellent teams and as we know, Lamar can't win the game all by himself.
Take Sundays loss to the Bills. Yes, he had those two turnovers but he had the Ravens poised to tie the game with that 88 yard drive at the end, but like usual, something happens out of his control that leads to defeat. Mark Andrews, of all players, dropped the 2 point try.
There was a couple other drop passes that were as consequential as Lamar's turnovers.
We all know the AFC is being dominated by the Chiefs and the Bills always have the advantage at home in the dead of winter. If the Ravens were in the NFC, Lamar would probably already played in the Super Bowl.
I have never been in KC, but I have been in Buffalo (actually Niagara) in January. It was around 15 degrees and as I was walking between two buildings, the 20mph wind went through me like a knife. The flying snow was blinding and it was the coldest I have ever experienced. I am not alibiing for LJ or Andrews; just expressing my own thoughts about how difficult it is to preform in conditions where the weather is that much of a factor.
There's no doubt. I don't know how these dudes do it. When you cold, everything you do is slower. Everything hurts more. You lose your will faster and your brain is constantly telling you to find warmth.
I know some people will disagree, but if that game would have been played in warm weather, the Ravens would have won going away. That's why the Detroit Lions are the true chokers, playing at home in a dome and getting handled rather easily.
I know some people will disagree, but if that game would have been played in warm weather, the Ravens would have won going away. That's why the Detroit Lions are the true chokers, playing at home in a dome and getting handled rather easily.
The hatred of Lamar on Facebook boggles the mind. They act like only Lamar is to blame when the Ravens lose, that he's the only QB to turn the ball over. They don't give him any credit for the great plays he makes.
It's absurd. The Ravens have great teams to get past every season and they have been very close to getting over that hump. Not doing so yet is not because of Lamar. It will happen soon but the haters will not acknowledge it. How can anyone can hate Lamar Jackson, the most humblest and dedicated player in the game?
It's absurd. The Ravens have great teams to get past every season and they have been very close to getting over that hump. Not doing so yet is not because of Lamar. It will happen soon but the haters will not acknowledge it. How can anyone can hate Lamar Jackson, the most humblest and dedicated player in the game?
Who cares about anything written anywhere? Come on now, all fans want their favorite team and players to be praised, not ridiculed. There's haters everywhere and Facebook is just one example.
I find it strange how so many believe the nonsense that Lamar is not good enough to win in the playoffs. How they blame every Ravens loss on #8. I don't get it, and it's not that I really care about their opinions as it is why these people hate him so much?
I find it strange how so many believe the nonsense that Lamar is not good enough to win in the playoffs. How they blame every Ravens loss on #8. I don't get it, and it's not that I really care about their opinions as it is why these people hate him so much?
I am not the biggest Lamar fan by no means since he plays for a division opponent of two teams I like. But it is sickening that every single mistake he makes is magnified while his feats are downplayed. I have seen the best of the best make mistakes that left me SMH that were largely passed off by the media as just FB. That includes the likes of Tom, Peyton and others before them. He has always had a receiver corps and RBs that were pedestrian at best. I thought the addition of Derrick Henry would put them over the top this year, but sh.. happens.
That's exactly it. His success is downplayed while his mistakes are magnified. He could throw for 4 TD's and 375 yards but if he turned the ball over in the 1st quarter and the Ravens lose 34 to 31, he will be called a choker and blamed for the loss.
Now not by most, but by quite a bit of people on social media. Has any other star QB been hated on so much in the internet era? It's crazy.
Now not by most, but by quite a bit of people on social media. Has any other star QB been hated on so much in the internet era? It's crazy.
When you're a 2 time MVP people go after you. I'm sure Marino and Elway heard it too.
Of course,that was before we all decided to go after each other like we are nowadays.
Of course,that was before we all decided to go after each other like we are nowadays.
Two prime examples.When you're a 2 time MVP people go after you. I'm sure Marino and Elway heard it too.
Of course,that was before we all decided to go after each other like we are nowadays.
Yes, Marino and Elway heard it too until what happened? Darnold and Mayfield among others are still hearing it. Prescott has been hearing it before he got hurt? Why? If Bills don't win, you might start hearing it about Josh.When you're a 2 time MVP people go after you. I'm sure Marino and Elway heard it too.
Of course,that was before we all decided to go after each other like we are nowadays.
I am a huge fan of Andrews as well as Lamar, and both are as good at their position as anyone in the NFL. The 2 point conversion drop was as unexplainable as any that I can recall in such a critical situation at this level, yet if he makes that catch …… Lamar’s fumble would be overshadowed by a Ravens win in OT.
Probably the cold conditions, especially late in the game. The football is like a rock and it just takes a slight slip to go through your hands. After 3 hours of freezing discomfort, the body is just not at 100 percent and the mind definitely drags.
Some guys are better than others in freezing cold conditions and with Andrews multiple drops, he is not one of the better ones.
It's not been a great season for Andrews and he will likely be replaced full time by Isiah Likely. How about that for irony?
Baltimore losing Zay Flowers was a big deal that hasn't been given a lot of attention. The Ravens need to sign a tall star receiver like Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase to get past the Chiefs.
I think Lamar doesn't drop the ball on that fumble in the 1st half. He doesn't wear gloves and his hands were probably somewhat numb when he was holding the ball trying to escape the rush. Normally, he could feel squeezing the ball, but not when the ball is hard as a rock.