Last night Croom reportedly said ...

[Shmuley]

"Now Auburn is dropping the spread and going back to Auburn football." The guy who e-mailed this to me was baffled as hell at this comment and chalked it up to Croom ******** justifying intransagence.

Just now a friend in Alabama sent me a text saying it's on the radio over there. AU is going back to 2 back power football. Coach34 will need to explain this.

 

[Shmuley]

"Now Auburn is dropping the spread and going back to Auburn football." The guy who e-mailed this to me was baffled as hell at this comment and chalked it up to Croom ******** justifying intransagence.

Just now a friend in Alabama sent me a text saying it's on the radio over there. AU is going back to 2 back power football. Coach34 will need to explain this.

 

[Shmuley]

"Now Auburn is dropping the spread and going back to Auburn football." The guy who e-mailed this to me was baffled as hell at this comment and chalked it up to Croom ******** justifying intransagence.

Just now a friend in Alabama sent me a text saying it's on the radio over there. AU is going back to 2 back power football. Coach34 will need to explain this.

 

[Shmuley]

"Now Auburn is dropping the spread and going back to Auburn football." The guy who e-mailed this to me was baffled as hell at this comment and chalked it up to Croom ******** justifying intransagence.

Just now a friend in Alabama sent me a text saying it's on the radio over there. AU is going back to 2 back power football. Coach34 will need to explain this.

 

[8dog]

they've been running at Auburn is anywhere close to what people would like to see state do.

The whole point of bringing some form of spread to State is that we could, in theory, get a qb more easily that can run a spread option with the plethora of athletes in MS. With Chris Todd at QB, AU never has a running threat at that position.

But Im not sold that its any easier to get a QB in MS to run the spread option.

 

[dawgfan77]

I would not be surprised if Tubs hires a new OC at the end of the year. They have looked as lost as us this year on O. They should put Burns at QB and run a spread option with Fannin, Tate and Lester. They don't have the WR's we do, and thats not good.</p>

 

[DowntownDawg]

....falls by the wayside.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

an option offense.

Rockey Felker thrived in the veer.
John Bond thrived with the wishbone & wingbone.
Don Smith, Sleepy Robinson would also be great at it... geez, I'd buy the MSU QB running the spread option.

 

[8dog]

at state. I just disagree with the notion that its easier to recruit a qb that can run it b/c of all the athletes in MS. I don't think you can just stick anyone back there and run it. Its a myth created by Pat White's success at WV.

Yes, if we could find another John Bond, I definitely think the option would work.

 

[dudehead]

and watched the routes they were teaching the WRs. The routes were alot different from spread package routes I have seen run at most other places. The AU routes had strange multiple cuts and sticks on simple square-ins, slants, and patterns in the flats. I heard campers even comment about it. It was weird for sure.

I have no idea if this is affecting their offense. All I know is that some of the routes in the AU spread were significantly different from other spread O routes I have seen.

 

[patdog]

It may be Tubby himself or it may be another coach on staff, but Tony Franklin ain't running that show any more.

 

[rebelrouseri]

demand a really nice golden parachute.

 

[beachbumdawg]

Franklin said he doesn't blame fans for being angry, but said the boos should be directed exclusively at him.</p>

"(Heck), if I was them, I'd boo," Franklin said. "I'd boo me. I'd be angry. Everybody's expectations were high. My expectations were high. (Heck), if I was a paying fan I'd be (angry). This product has not been good, and it was my product. I don't blame them for being upset. I don't take it personal. When they said how wonderful I was, I didn't take that personal because I knew it wasn't true. I said all along that I wasn't very smart and y'all thought I was joking. Now you know. It's pretty true."</p>

</a><a href="http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2008/09/tony_franklin_speaks.html#more">http://blog.al.com/auburn...franklin_speaks.html#more

 

[Mr Meoff]

yadda yadda yuku

 

[Stormrider81]

Until we get better offensive coaching it doesn't matter what we run. Some people act as if the spread is the answer. I don't know if it is or isn't. What I do know with certainty is we need a new OC who knows what he is doing, can actually coach a QB to not get worse over the course of his career, and is allowed to run the offense he wants unimpeded.

I share the skepticism of the spread offense making it easier to recruit QBs to state. We've had, what, a handful of good QBs over our entire history. QB is likely going to always be a problem for us. I think the big issue is making sure we have an OC who is able to run an effective offense (meaning one that can move the ball, score a few points, and not kill the defense), and if we make a good hire hopefully he will be able to adjust to what we have at any particular time.</p>

 

[8dog]

in fact, I think it's probably just as easy to get a qb that is above average as a passer as it is to find someone that can lead us to victories in a spread. Most teams can find a decent passer--we just can't. And I think most of it has to do with poor coaching and poor protection.

 

[Shmuley]

I said all along that I wasn't very smart and y'all thought I was joking. Now you know. It's pretty true.

That's way beyond taking the blame. That's just plain disturbing. Stick a fork in him.

 

[Stormrider81]

When's the last time you can remember a senior QB being significantly better than he was early in his career? We almost always end up complaining about the senior QB and calling for the underclassman to replace him. We desperately need to find someone who can at least decently coach a QB. I'll take moderate improvement from a QB at this point.

 

[Columbus Dawg]

And I think most of it has to do with poor coaching and poor protection.

Regarding your comment about poor protection, I still can't get over the fact that we didn't keep a back in to help Saulsberry with #93 of GT and #93 of LSU. He gets beat at least 2 or 3 times a game in pass protection. I feel sorry for him, he would probably be a decent OG.

 

[8dog]

at least with regard to the sproption..See No. 2:

http://fannation.com/si_blogs/the_sweep/posts/9062

 

[Coach34]

1. You cant understand a condom emergency joke
2. You think that sideways running BS Auburn was running is the Spread offense

Franklin was selling videos out of his damn trunk 5 or 6 years ago....Tubby made a mistake in hiring him...Vandy is 4-0 with their switch to the Spread with 5 new starting offensive linemen...how is my theory as it pertains to Vandy?

Moron

 

[squirldawg]

TOTAL OFFENSE G Rush Pass Plays Yards Avg/P TD Avg/G
1. LSU 4 826 883 259 1709 6.6 16 427.2
2. Georgia 5 807 1317 314 2124 6.8 20 424.8
3. Ole Miss 5 860 1072 307 1932 6.3 16 386.4
4. Alabama 5 1076 808 322 1884 5.9 19 376.8
5. Florida 4 615 822 244 1437 5.9 14 359.2
6. Kentucky 4 678 730 287 1408 4.9 12 352.0
7. Arkansas 4 362 1038 263 1400 5.3 10 350.0
8. S. Carolina 5 611 1101 347 1712 4.9 11 342.4
9. Tennessee 4 663 700 266 1363 5.1 9 340.8
10. Auburn 5 781 866 354 1647 4.7 8 329.4
11. Miss. State 5 563 994 336 1557 4.6 10 311.4
12. Vanderbilt 4 808 323 232 1131 4.9 13 282.8

 

[Coach34]

last year Vandy was 94th in scoring

This year they are 52nd....

 

[BriantheDawg]

They are ranked 112 in total offense. Even MState is ranked higher. You are such a %@#*@%# dumbass.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

without looking it up. Just a couple of weeks ago, I was all but skinned alive because I questioned the spread... nothing wrong with the spread, it's just not the all of everything. Seems like a lot of you guys call about anything that is successful, the spread. Numerous teams use components of the spread, but it's not necessairly their base offense. Watch Auburn, if they do change, they'll still use part of the spread sets and schemes, at times.

Now, I do think we at MSU would have a better chance recruiting athletes (especially QB) that can run the spread, rather than say the West Coast whatever it is.

 

[Coach34]

They are ranked 112 in total offense. Even MState is ranked higher. You are such a %@#*@%# dumbass.

Vandy is 112th in total offense, yet 52nd in scoring...when you are 52nd in scoring, thats pretty good...and they only have ONE defensive/special teams TD this season...

by contrast:

State finished 113th in offense last year, and 96th in scoring, and thats even with 5 defensive TD's and and a punt return....
this year, we are 104th in offense and 111th in scoring

so you retarded 17'ing monkey moron...obviously their offense is doing something to be 52 in scoring

 

[BriantheDawg]

the fact that they are 52nd in scoring offense doesn't have ANYTHING to do with the fact they are <span style="font-weight: bold;">#1</span> in the country in <span style="font-weight: bold;">turnover margin</span>, does it? Again, your dumbassiticity has no bounds. #!#!$*! tool.

 

[BriantheDawg]

If you call getting the ball handed to you deep in your opponent's territory because of your <span style="font-weight: bold;">defense</span>, then yes, the offense obviously is doing something.

so you retarded 17'ing monkey moron...obviously their offense is doing something to be 52 in scoring

 

[Coach34]

is that Vandy's offense doesnt turn the ball over and scores when they get good opportunities? With 5 new starting offensive lineman?

aGAIN Socrates, obviously they are doing something well on offense...

 

[BriantheDawg]

They are ranked 26 in that category. I'll give them that. They pass it even better. That ranking is 116. That spread offense just automatically makes you awesome on offense because cunt34 says so. Most spread offenses that are worth a **** are in the Top 100 in the passing category, I would imagine. Please tell me what is good about having the 112th ranked offense, with the 116th best passing offense in the nation. Oh, that's right. They are 52nd in scoring. But that has nothing to do with the fact they are #1 in turnover margin. Am I getting this right? Turnover margin (<span style="font-weight: bold;">#1 in the country</span>) has nothing to do with it. Vandy's offense is just unbelievably awesome. Because cunt34 says so. Got it.

You try to come up with these 'facts' to make your case, but as ALWAYS, you are the ONLY person on this board (or on this planet) who really thinks Vandy's offense is good. They take advantage of getting the ball deep in their opponents' territory. That praise goes to the <span style="font-weight: bold;">defense</span> unless your name is cunt34, in which case, the offense deserves ALL the credit. Makes senses now.

 

[Gene Swindoll]

nm

 

[Coach34]

the fact that nobody is joining you in this "disagreement" shows you how wrong you are. If the board even thinks i'm slightly wrong on a subject, they will pile on as fast as possible...You're in this one alone pal....

An offense that doesnt turn the ball over, is ranked 26th in the nation in rushing, is 52nd in the nation in scoring, and takes advantage of scoring opportunities cant be called a bad offense...there is nothing you can say to make that so...

 

[BriantheDawg]

An offense that doesnt turn the ball over, is ranked 26th in the nation in rushing, is 52nd in the nation in scoring, and takes advantage of scoring opportunities cant be called a bad offense...there is nothing you can say to make that so...

Nothing I can say? I'm pretty confident that I, or anyone else, can say that an offense that is ranked 112 out of 119 teams is a bad offense. I can also confidently say that an offense that is ranked 116 out of 119 teams in passing the ball is a bad offense. Vandy's offense isn't creating their <span style="font-weight: bold;">scoring</span> (there goes that word again) opportunities. Their <span style="font-weight: bold;">defense</span> is.

I really cannot believe you were an actual coach.

 

[Coach34]

so...based on your ********...because Vandy is 116th in passing even though they are 26th in rushing and 52nd in scoring makes them a bad offense...ooooooook

Last year, Hawaii was 116th in running the football...by your definition that makes them a bad offense...yet they led the nation in scoring....

game, set, match

go blow Stewie ***** and stfu

 

[ArrowDawg]

.....I firmly believe that you can make your offense work if you're smart enough to find out what it is your personnel are capable of doing and go with it. Of course it takes good coaching to do that, something I don't believe we have. Hell, we don't even know what to call our offense right now. It's the "whatchamacallitthingy" offense.

 

[BriantheDawg]

and has nothing to do with being #1 in the country in turnover margin. If you really honestly believe that, then you are a complete udder dumbass. Of course, all of us already knew that in the first place.

Last year, Hawaii was 116th in running the football...by your definition that makes them a bad offense...yet they led the nation in scoring....

Last year, Hawaii was <span style="font-weight: bold;">3rd in total offense</span>, a far cry from the <span style="font-weight: bold;">112 ranking</span> Vandy has put up so far.

 

[Coach34]

and trying to explain simple things to dumbest people on the planet...

Vandy is 4-0 because:

1. they play good defense
2. they dont turn the ball over
3. they take advantage of breaks when they get them
4. they Spread the field and run the football very well

 

[hatfieldms]

so...based on your ********...because Vandy is 116th in passing even though they are 26th in rushing and 52nd in scoring makes them a bad offense...ooooooook

Last year, Hawaii was 116th in running the football...by your definition that makes them a bad offense...yet they led the nation in scoring....

game, set, match

go blow Stewie ***** and stfu

If Hawaii was ranked 112th in offense overall they would be a bad offense. I love how we finish out of the top 100 in offense and you say we suck. Vandy does and some hwo they are good. You really are a +#%%$%% dolt

 

[hatfieldms]

and trying to explain simple things to dumbest people on the planet...

Vandy is 4-0 because:

1. they play good defense
2. they dont turn the ball over
3. they take advantage of breaks when they get them
4. they Spread the field and run the football very well

Really? we played good defense last year, didnt turn it over much, and took advantage of mistakes and you said it was a fluke year. vandy does it and they are good? Seriously, do you argue to just argue? I don;t think i have ever come across anyone who is so afraid to admit he was wrong that he will spin it anyway possible, regardless of how stupid it makes you look

 

[BriantheDawg]

Now, they play good defense. They are opportunistic on offense no doubt. They run the ball ok. Not great, but ok. They cannot pass. Period. To say their offense is a good offense is being a stranger to the truth. An offense that is ranked 112 out of 119 after playing Miami OH and Rice is not good. Period. Opportunistic, yes. Good, no.