Last night Croom reportedly said ...

[Coach34]

last year we finished:

76th in rushing
113th in passing
96th in scoring offense
113th in total offense

There is nothing you can say that we did well on offense last year...not one thing...even with the defensive TD's, we finished 96th

Now Vandy:

26th in the nation in rushing
116th in passing
52nd in scoring
112th in total offense

You cant deny Vandy runs the ball very well and takes advantage of scoring opportunities...those things show they have things they do well on offense...So, you are basically wrong by saying they have a ****** offense...You have to look at the total package...

You two ladies are wrong and need to stay out of intelligent discussions

 

[hatfieldms]

last year we finished:

76th in rushing
113th in passing
96th in scoring offense
113th in total offense

There is nothing you can say that we did well on offense last year...not one thing...even with the defensive TD's, we finished 96th

Now Vandy:

26th in the nation in rushing
116th in passing
52nd in scoring
112th in total offense

You cant deny Vandy runs the ball very well and takes advantage of scoring opportunities...those things show they have things they do well on offense...So, you are basically wrong by saying they have a ****** offense...You have to look at the total package...

You two ladies are wrong and need to stay out of intelligent discussions

The fact that you even use the words"intelligent discussion" is funny in itself. Let's check back at the end of the season once Vandy has gone through the entire SEC schedule and see if their running game is ranked in the top 30. I can guarantee you that we could have those exact same stats and you would be on here bitching and whining about how bad we suck. They are 112th in TOTAL offense and we are wrong for saying they have a ****** offense. Do you not realize how stupid you sond, or do you just not care? No wonder you are divorced, your stupidity is enought to drive anybody crazy

 

[Coach34]

but you do realize Vandy is ranked 74th in defense dont you? Its not like they are the 85 Bears...Their defense is is in the bottom 40% in the nation

 

[hatfieldms]

but you do realize Vandy is ranked 74th in defense dont you? Its not like they are the 85 Bears...Their defense is is in the bottom 40% in the nation

And? You are the one that said they played good dfense

 

[BriantheDawg]

in the nation is bad. Yet, their offense, which is ranked 112th, is good. Am I following you correctly?

cunt34 = pwn3nd

 

[Coach34]

"we are wrong for saying they have a ****** offense"

how can they be ****** when they are in the top 20% of college football in rushing? It's a shame you dont realize how dumb you sound...they are in the top 50% in scoring...just shut up...you are really embarrasing yourself

 

[hatfieldms]

"we are wrong for saying they have a ****** offense"

how can they be ****** when they are in the top 20% of college football in rushing? It's a shame you dont realize how dumb you sound...they are in the top 50% in scoring...just shut up...you are really embarrasing yourself

Because they are 112th in TOTAL offense. Let's use Hawaii again since you wanted to earlier. If we were to use only their running stats last year is it safe to say that you believe they had one of the worst offenses in the country?

 

[Coach34]

this will just have to end...you two are like the mongoloid twins of Bruce, Mississippi...talking is pointless

 

[hatfieldms]

this will just have to end...you two are like the mongoloid twins of Bruce, Mississippi...talking is pointless

Let's just wait and see where this powerful vandy offense finishes the season. I am sure wherever they finish you will be there to make all of these excuses to justify your ignorance

 

[BriantheDawg]

your dumb fukcing *** is getting pwn3d and you know it. You are seriously the lamest guy I've had the pleasure to converse with on an internet message board. The very definition of douchebag.

 

[Coach34]

you havent owned ****...you are wrong, wrong, wrong....

A team that runs the ball better than 4 out of every 5 college teams is not a ****** offense...

They score more points than 67 other teams in college football...that is not a ****** offense...

your and idiot and lucky for you you are too stupid to figure it out...

 

[BriantheDawg]

fukcing cares about our little argument on here. Unlike you, I could give 2 ***** what anybody on this board thinks about me. I don't need a message board to fulfill my life like you do. Like I said, you are the definition of internet message board douche. That's you. Cunt34, the message board douche.

Vandy's defense that's ranked 38 spots higher than its offense, sucks. But the offense is good. Ok, whatever.

 

[DowntownDawg]

...you have been made to look like a fool. You couldn't have picked a worse example than Vandy, and Brian has pwned you all the way down the page. As far as Vandy goes, they haven't done **** yet. Just because beating South Carolina is like beating the New England Patriots to you, doesn't mean they are a good team to the rest of the world. The best team that they beat is Ole Miss, and it took 6 turnovers to escape by the skin of their teeth. Flukish things happen when you get six turnovers. Do I even have to point out the La Tech game, or the benefit we got from the 5 at Auburn last year. Good teams lose to bad teams all the time with 6 turnovers. Vandy is nowhere near a top 20 team, and they will be put in their place if they'll play somebody that doesn't give them the football in their own territory, which to any person with half a brain tells you how you get to 112th in total yards, 52nd in scoring, and #1 in total offense.

Face it, you lose, and no matter how you try to spin it, you look like an idiot on this one.

 

[Coach34]

an awful lot and i'm glad you three have banded together...BUT

the team that is 26th in the nation in rushing and 52nd in scoring is not ****** on offense...you morons hate me, and thats fine- you should as many times as I have made you look dumb...but just because you say something doesnt make it fact...I'll repeat- an offense that:

scores, doesnt turn the ball over, and runs it well is not ****** on offense. Nowhere in this thread did I say they were great...but to say they are bad is as dumb as supporting Crooms...oh wait, name something you three have in common? Yessssssssssss, thats it- Crooms loversssss...amazing

and in just 2 more years we'll have this West Crap Offense down pat huh?

 

[Brutius]

but I wanted to point out that the 2 primary reasons Vandy is way higher in scoring offense than total offense is because

1) They are 1st in the SEC and 3rd in the nation in punt returns (special teams, not offense). Averaging 22.5 yards per punt return makes those drives a lot easier for a ****** offense than say....MSU who averages 4.5 yards.

2) They have the most turnovers in the SEC, again setting up short drives for the offense that pretty much sucks.

Their special teams and opportunistic turnovers seem to be winning the games for them, not their offense.

If an offense starts from the other teams 5 yard line and scores a lot, it doesn't necessarily mean they are a good offense, it just means they are lucky to start at the opponents 5 yard line a lot.

Your friend,
Brutius

 

[BriantheDawg]

suckitcunt34

 

[Coach34]

26th in rushing in the nation
52nd in scoring

you ignorant 17's this offseason touted Dixon over and over and over again....We were 76th in the nation last year in rushing...76th....76th...
Vandy is 50 spots higher this year...50 spots higher...they are 26th...with 5 new OL starters...and I bet you cant even name their TB...yet still 26th...

enough said

 

[RocketCityDawg]

nm</p>

 

[BlindDawg]

Any offense that ranks BEHIND Mississippi State in total offense is in no way close to being a good offense. End of story. No matter what other rankings they may have in scoring, rushing or whatever.

 

[Coach34]

we scored 24 on LSU...there is so much reason for optimism

 

[MaroonInNashville]

Wondered where you've been! Too bad it took a Coach34-moron-a-thon to bring you back...

 

[muddawgs33]

the team that is 26th in the nation in rushing and 52nd in scoring is not ****** on offense

They have played Miami OH who is 83rd in rushing defense and 92nd in scoring defense, Rice who is 84th in rushing defense and 104th in scoring defense and 2 SEC schools that held Vandy to 200 yards of total offense. So yeah Vandy's offense sucks no matter how you try to spin it. They play 5 remaining teams out of 8 that are ranked inside the top 25 in rushing defense. And the worst scoring defense they face the rest of the year will be, of course, Miss. State at 52nd in the nation. So I think you are about to see how ****** Vandy's offense really is.

 

[Stormrider81]

A few things.

1. Who touted Dixon? It certainly wasn't me. I've been saying for quite some time now that he is average at best.
2. Who has Vandy played? We'll see what their stats look like once they go through the SEC portion of their schedule.
3. It's apparently ok for Vandy to create scoring opportunities with defense and special teams and their offense is even called good despite their overall ranking because of it, but let MSU score 5 defensive touchdowns and our offense sucks.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, winning is what matters. Vandy is doing what it takes to win right now with turnovers and special teams play, just like MSU did last year. The only stat that really matters is the W/L column. Credit to Vandy for what they are doing, but they are winning much the same way MSU did last year (not exactly the same, but similar). You did nothing but complain about the way MSU won, but are praising Vandy. It doesn't add up.</p>

 

[hatfieldms]

A few things.

1. Who touted Dixon? It certainly wasn't me. I've been saying for quite some time now that he is average at best.
2. Who has Vandy played? We'll see what their stats look like once they go through the SEC portion of their schedule.
3. It's apparently ok for Vandy to create scoring opportunities with defense and special teams and their offense is even called good despite their overall ranking because of it, but let MSU score 5 defensive touchdowns and our offense sucks.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, winning is what matters. Vandy is doing what it takes to win right now with turnovers and special teams play, just like MSU did last year. The only stat that really matters is the W/L column. Credit to Vandy for what they are doing, but they are winning much the same way MSU did last year (not exactly the same, but similar). <span style="font-weight: bold;">You did nothing but complain about the way MSU won, but are praising Vandy. It doesn't add up.</span></p>

Exactly. MSU could have the exact same stats as vandy right now and his dumb *** would be sitting here crying about it

 

[DowntownDawg]

...I think we can all agree that starting field position has nothing to do with the offense, right? I mean, that is basically defense and special teams, except in the case of your offense maybe giving up a turnover at midfield, the defense holding, and the offense getting the ball back after a punt, but in general, starting filed position happens because of what your defense did and what your special teams did.

Vandy has scored five touchdowns this year against SEC teams. One was an interception return for a TD. Their avg. starting field position on the other 4 is the 50 yard line. They have kicked 4 field goals against SEC competition. Average starting field position is the opponents' 49.

Opportunistic is the word, which is a characteristic of good coaching, but does not mean they have a good offense. Take away those opportunities, and they don't score. Pin them deep and they can't drive 80 yards, which is exactly what I expect to happen this weekend and next. If Auburn and/or us, gives them a bunch of turnovers, they'll beat us. If they don't get a bunch of turnovers, they'll lose. They'll be exposed sooner or later.

 

[Coach34]

"1. Who touted Dixon? It certainly wasn't me. I've been saying for quite some time now that he is average at best."

hahahahaha...we had a huge thread in August (i'll bump it for you after I reply) about how great Dixon was on here. Patdog and I were the only two in the thread that said Dixon was an average back. The onlyyyy two. But we had about 30 others singing his praises as All-SEC and Backer spewed him rushing for 1,500 this season.

"3. It's apparently ok for Vandy to create scoring opportunities with defense and special teams and their offense is even called good despite their overall ranking because of it, but let MSU score 5 defensive touchdowns and our offense sucks."

I'll do this one last time- we didnt NOTHING well on offense last year. Nothing. The best thing we did was run the ball, and that was 76th....76th...

Vandy's offense is not great...never said it was...but they do a couple of things well- they are 26th in the nation in rushing. They are good at running the football so far this season...They are 52nd in scoring. That is good also. There is no denying those two facts. So, while they have a low ranking, there are some things they do well on offense.

There is no escaping those facts

 

[hatfieldms]

Like I said, let's check back on these stats after they have gown through Auburn, Georgia, Florida and the rest of the SEC. of course I would never expect your dumb *** to ever admit you were wrong. I just can't wait to hear the excuses

 

[Coach34]

Like I said, let's check back on these stats after they have gown through Auburn, Georgia, Florida and the rest of the SEC. of course I would never expect your dumb *** to ever admit you were wrong. I just can't wait to hear the excuses

they have already played against the number 1 defense in the nation currently and are still 26th in rushing and 52nd in scoring

 

[hatfieldms]

Like I said, let's check back on these stats after they have gown through Auburn, Georgia, Florida and the rest of the SEC. of course I would never expect your dumb *** to ever admit you were wrong. I just can't wait to hear the excuses

they have already played against the number 1 defense in the nation currently and are still 26th in rushing and 52nd in scoring

And they averaged just over 3 yards a carry against them. Of course Dixon averages 3 yards a carry and he sucks. let's see how the season plays out

 

[hatfieldms]

542 of their 808 rushing yards have come against Miami of Ohio and Rice. Forgive me for wanting to see them average more than 3 yards a carry against decent SEC competition before I label them a good rushing team. Of course you would agree since you say that Dixon isnt that good since he only averages a little over 3 yards a carry, right?

 

[BriantheDawg]

SixPackSpeak.com: A Never-Ending Cunt34 Moron-A-Thon

 

[Stormrider81]

1. I probably wasn't involved in that Dixon thread. Patdog can probably attest to the fact that I have backed him up in several threads in the past when he stated Dixon was average at best. That's been my stance all along and will continue to be until he decides to run like a power back and consistently hit what few holes our crappy OL gives him. At that point I may upgrade him to good. As far as ever being considered great, I don't see it.

2. We ranked 76 after going through the entire season, more importantly the entire SEC season. Again, I doubt Vandy will be ranked that high in either category after playing through the remainder of their schedule. Nearly 70% of their rushing yards came against Miami OH and Rice. The rushing yards per game average from the two SEC games they've played so far would have them ranked 83rd in the nation. Here's an interesting fact, they gained more against USC than they did against Ole Miss. Another interesting fact, they got outgained by 70 yards by Ole Miss. Again, let's see them once they come through the bulk of the SEC schedule.