Lebby better take advantage this year.......

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- Caught Zona State while they were struggling for motivation, at home;
- Catching Flarrda in a distracted, vulnerable state;
- Texas obviously struggling and we get them at home;
- Arkansas with a coaching change;
- Ole Miss at home, with an obviously distracted Kiffin with a ton of pressure.

If you can't get to 6-6 with that, I don't see it lining up any better. Actually need to do better. Already blew the Tennessee game.
 

ckDOG

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Good coaches take advantages of opportunities. If he's worth his paycheck, he will find a way to grab 2 wins and get us to the postseason this year. I think that's possible. Plus that should loosen up funds and grab attention from potential transfers.
 

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- Caught Zona State while they were struggling for motivation, at home;
- Catching Flarrda in a distracted, vulnerable state;
- Texas obviously struggling and we get them at home;
- Arkansas with a coaching change;
- Ole Miss at home, with an obviously distracted Kiffin with a ton of pressure.

If you can't get to 6-6 with that, I don't see it lining up any better. Actually need to do better. Already blew the Tennessee game.
If he gets 6-6 will you stop being an oral necrophile?
 

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Hope not. But there's no doubt in my mind that Petrino was backstabbing Pittman. Because Pittman isn't a bad coach. I think hiring Petrino was his downfall.
Yes and no. I believe Petrino was only a delay tactic. Pittman would already be gone if he hadn't made a "splash" hire for OC. Yes, Petrino was stabbing him in the back but his back would not still be there to be stabbed without hiring Petrino.
 

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Good coaches take advantages of opportunities. If he's worth his paycheck, he will find a way to grab 2 wins and get us to the postseason this year. I think that's possible. Plus that should loosen up funds and grab attention from potential transfers.
Hope he can bring back some of the current guys, in that case. If not, then this will have been his 'up' year. It doesn't work like it used to when you needed 3-4 years to complete a cycle of recruited freshmen becoming upperclassmen.

Shapen as a senior, Reese, Thompson, Booth, Washington, BJones, Whitson (will likely get another year), Deonte.........you aren't just replacing those guys.
 

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Hope he can bring back some of the current guys, in that case. If not, then this will have been his 'up' year. It doesn't work like it used to when you needed 3-4 years to complete a cycle of recruited freshmen becoming upperclassmen.

Shapen as a senior, Reese, Thompson, Booth, Washington, BJones, Whitson (will likely get another year), Deonte.........you aren't just replacing those guys.
That's what the portal's for.
 
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ckDOG

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Hope he can bring back some of the current guys, in that case. If not, then this will have been his 'up' year. It doesn't work like it used to when you needed 3-4 years to complete a cycle of recruited freshmen becoming upperclassmen.

Shapen as a senior, Reese, Thompson, Booth, Washington, BJones, Whitson (will likely get another year), Deonte.........you aren't just replacing those guys.
He has to though. Or try explaining to boosters, fans, and talent pool how a miracle 6 win season is our ceiling at MSU. Might as well shut down the program if we are buying that story.
 

The Peeper

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Can't make wholesale changes in the portal. Didn't you learn anything from Lebby's first year?

A query of Gemini asking which teams took large numbers of transfer portal players and were successful in 2024 revealed:

-Indiana took 31 and went 11-2
-University of Northern MS took 26 and went 10-3
-Colorado took 43 and went 9-4
-Louisville took 31 and went 9-4
-Texas A&M took 28 and were 8-5
-USM was 1-11 last season and took in 36 players from the portal after that and is now 4-2

Please explain why you "can't make wholesale changes in the portal"?
 
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A query of Gemini asking which teams took large numbers of transfer portal players and were successful in 2024 revealed:

-Indiana took 31 and went 11-2
-University of Northern MS took 26 and went 10-3
-Colorado took 43 and went 9-4
-Louisville took 31 and went 9-4
-Texas A&M took 28 and were 8-5
-USM was 1-11 last season and took in 36 players from the portal after that and is now 4-2

Please explain why you "can't make wholesale changes in the portal"?
Correct. The Top 25 has at least a handful of programs we should compete with. They are figuring it out. Why wouldn't we?
 

TXDawg.sixpack

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Can't make wholesale changes in the portal. Didn't you learn anything from Lebby's first year?
Have you learned anything from this year? 50+ new faces on the roster with the vast majority of them coming from the portal.

Significant upgrades across the board, but still need to add depth.
 

paindonthurt

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A query of Gemini asking which teams took large numbers of transfer portal players and were successful in 2024 revealed:

-Indiana took 31 and went 11-2
-University of Northern MS took 26 and went 10-3
-Colorado took 43 and went 9-4
-Louisville took 31 and went 9-4
-Texas A&M took 28 and were 8-5
-USM was 1-11 last season and took in 36 players from the portal after that and is now 4-2

Please explain why you "can't make wholesale changes in the portal"?
$2.9 million

#MikeGundy

#WholeSaleChanges
 

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“Struggling for motivation “ is an all timer. I’m dying
 

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A query of Gemini asking which teams took large numbers of transfer portal players and were successful in 2024 revealed:

-Indiana took 31 and went 11-2
-University of Northern MS took 26 and went 10-3
-Colorado took 43 and went 9-4
-Louisville took 31 and went 9-4
-Texas A&M took 28 and were 8-5
-USM was 1-11 last season and took in 36 players from the portal after that and is now 4-2

Please explain why you "can't make wholesale changes in the portal"?
MSU is different than most of those places. Our coach isn't as good either.

USM doesn't count, they are playing Sun Belt ball not SEC.
 
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The Peeper

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Your words not mine, "Can't make wholesale changes in the portal" Now the narrative changes when you're proven wrong to, "MSU is different than most of those places." This is why NOBODY takes your seriously, you blurt sh-it out w/out thinking and then when proven wrong you change the rules.

USM is playing Sun Belt ball w/ Sun Belt quality players, they aren't playing w/ SEC players either. Once again, you try to change it........
 

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Your words not mine, "Can't make wholesale changes in the portal" Now the narrative changes when you're proven wrong to, "MSU is different than most of those places." This is why NOBODY takes your seriously, you blurt sh-it out w/out thinking and then when proven wrong you change the rules.

USM is playing Sun Belt ball w/ Sun Belt quality players, they aren't playing w/ SEC players either. Once again, you try to change it........
Define wholesale, dubmass. Plus, that also means the ones who actually play.

We aren't going to find that quality of player every year in the portal. We can't afford it. Have to develop our own and pay them to stay.
 

The Peeper

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Define wholesale, dubmass. Plus, that also means the ones who actually play.

We aren't going to find that quality of player every year in the portal. We can't afford it. Have to develop our own and pay them to stay.
Again, wholesale was your word, not mine. You define it. We're all just sitting back and watching you try to squirm out of it.
 
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Again, wholesale was your word, not mine. You define it. We're all just sitting back and watching you try to squirm out of it.
Guess I should say it differently…..you can’t wholesale use the portal ONLY. Need to also have some home grown older guys. And we have a little of that this year (thanks to Leach recruits).
 
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Brennan, Fluff, our DB’s, OL, DL…

They’re returners? You really are a dubmass!
I’m sorry but this made me laugh out loud and I’ve stayed out of this conversation. However I gotta agree about seriously integral parts of our team and success. Thompson, Fluff, DBs and Linemen. Also just Imagining if we were fully healthy now sucks or close to healthy at least. Really hope we get more back than one Smith which is still great to have! But man we need that Oline to get healthy quick like.
 
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Brennan, Fluff, our DB’s, OL, DL…

They’re returners? You really are a dubmass!
Shapen
Jackson
Boone
Reese
Booth
Traore
Mosley
Jones
Anderson
Brumfield
Smith
Bingley-Jones
Tillman
Mitchell
Jennings

That's just the starters. Checkmate, bltch. And don't come at me about how well they were transfers last year. Yeah I know. These days everybody transfers at least once but you need to have that continuity. Ya'll actually wanted to throw the whole team out then and get new ones completely. This proves that players do get better as they get older.
 

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Shapen
Jackson
Boone
Reese
Booth
Traore
Mosley
Jones
Anderson
Brumfield
Smith
Bingley-Jones
Tillman
Mitchell
Jennings

That's just the starters. Checkmate, bltch. And don't come at me about how well they were transfers last year. Yeah I know. These days everybody transfers at least once but you need to have that continuity. Ya'll actually wanted to throw the whole team out then and get new ones completely. This proves that players do get better as they get older.
So you are saying we are better?