Lebby lost a large portion of the fans tonight
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We can at 0-16 in SEC play. No question. Has any coach ever lost his first 16 conference games (or even his first 11), and gone on to be successful? Ever?
We had nowhere to go but up. This isn’t a major accomplishment. Last year was a 50-year low for MSU football.
So we need the same things we’ve needed just about every single year in MSU’s football history, except 2013-2015. Great. No way this ends poorly.
It was a pass that should have never been regardless. There are 1000 Message Board Head Coaches who KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that play should have never been called. There are peewee football coaches all over America and a few in Mexico who know that play should have never been called.
Right. None of his misses have been because they are short.
Yea I gotta say agree Croom would’ve never gotten us bowl eligible in todays SEC and the entire wholesale change of CFB today vs then.
Correct. And his miss today film may show went over the top of the upright. But none-the-less, the only thing that should have happened with 27 seconds was centering the football with a run and spiking it.
Real Coaches are “earning” their money. Right now through 11 SEC games coached, Lebby is getting paid $727,272 per LOSS!
Hell of a deal if you can get it!
Most of them were the dumb jocks from high school. Most of them don't change.
Definitely, there will be an abnormally larger amount of "faculty"** tickets for sale this week, CHEAP.
No doubt. The basic tenet of coaching is that you use your best. Win or lose with your best. Ferrie is one of the best kickers we’ve ever had and one of the best out there. And we don’t use him.
This is the thing...we were coming out of a timeout. The TO was a bad idea, but since you used it, make sure Shapen knows what he had to do to protect the ball and set us up.
I'm okay with trying to get a TD there, or even trying to get a few more yards, but you need to have the next three plays scripted, and Shapen fully prepared to throw the ball away if anything goes wrong.
Honestly, I kind of like the idea of going deep there. Don’t this it if he’s covered. But sane as the ASU game, they’re playing to take the short pass into (better) FG position & leave themselves open deep.
What makes it worse is he called a timeout to throw it to the logo, the QB did without a WR there, the WR over ran the logo, and the 17n NOSE GUARD went to the logo and picked it off. The nose guard.
Basically Seydou either ran the wrong route (he ran to the middle of the field) or Shapen threw to the wrong location. Not sure which one screwed up but the fact they were confused coming directly out of a timeout with arguably the season on the line tells me everything I need to know about Lebby and our staff.
Yes. He over ran the UF logo. Shapen threw it to the UF logo thinking he would stop there. That was the genius call. The call the NG knew better than our WR did.
They do. Remember when Saban had the game won against Auburn, tried a FG for some reason with essentially no time remaining, it fell short, and an Auburn guy ran it back about 108 yards for the winning TD? In retrospect, and even at the time, that was a dumb move.
Keenum is one of the reasons our overall academics are so terrible (not talking about football and basketball, but students in general). At least we have the honors college to take up slack, but every student in school should be a qualified college student.
Call it how you want, but Bear Bryant had several BAMA teams back in the day that would have gone undefeated this year.
Just maintaining possession would have been good enough. There would have been a ≥50% chance of winning the game then.
here's a novel idea. quit hiring inexperienced position coaches and coordinators as head coaches who have no recruiting connections, no recruiting plan, no game management experience, no S&C plan, and no talent evaluation plan (he tried his best to get Jaxson Arnold, who sucks balls at Auburn). in today's climate, an SEC school can't afford to let someone train on the job. you better have the money to pay and hire experience.
That just means there’ll be plenty of head coaching experienced coaches on the market, plus we wouldn’t be in competition with many of those schools for the same coaches.
You do realize that Bama created the grossly unfair advantages Bear and Saban had right? And Saban quit after those advantages were gone.
It’s very simple. Jeff Lebby HAS to figure out how to get 1 SEC win this year. We are much improved. It’s very clear. But after an 0-8 in 2024, you’ve got to find a way to get one and build some kind of optimism going into 2026. You can somewhat sell 1-7 to a fanbase. But 0 for your first 16 and it just becomes almost impossible to get tickets sold and folks into the seats next year. There is just too much time and money you are asking from people when it’s just nothing but losses year after year, in every single conference game. November 5, 2022 was the last SEC win at home. If our next home conference win isn’t until 2026 or later, it’ll be so very damaging to our chances to get this turned around anytime soon. He’s got to find an SEC win this year.
Game was tied. It was a long game winning FG attempt with 1 second left
This. Apparently, trying to win the game in regulation was a "really dumb move".
There was a very young Auburn fan sitting in front of me in Jordan Hare who said "they should put someone really fast back there to return the kick if it's short". He got super excited when Auburn called TO and did just that.
The same thing had happened in the NFL a few weeks earlier, but it was still impressive this kid was on top of it like that.
Counterpoint: All of you guys who want to fire him right now are morons.
@Perd Hapley asked if any coach had lost their first 16 conference games and gone on to be successful. Short answer is none that I could find.
Lebby is wading into Derek Dooley, Chad Morris and Charlie Weis territory if he doesn't win one or two conference games. Morris and Weis were fired after 2 years.
To play devil's advocate on firing him, you are basically putting the hiring of the next coach in the same hands who brought you Lebby , Arnett, Cohen as AD and Moorhead.
Bottom line is it seems we will be damned if we do and damned if we don't.
Lebby is wading into Derek Dooley, Chad Morris and Charlie Weis territory if he doesn't win one or two conference games. Morris and Weis were fired after 2 years.
To play devil's advocate on firing him, you are basically putting the hiring of the next coach in the same hands who brought you Lebby , Arnett, Cohen as AD and Moorhead.
Bottom line is it seems we will be damned if we do and damned if we don't.
You cant afford to go 0-16 in conference either. MSU has invested a lot and it should buy more than was we are getting. You can't go zero wins in conference two years and keep your job. Even if you seen some signs of improvement and being competive. I'm sure he will get year 3 but if he goes -16 in conference he shouldn't
How can he kick Shapen to the curb when the only play he has in the book for the backup QB is "QB up the middle"?
He lost me with his god awful coaching decisions, especially at the end of the game. Obviously in way over his head and has zero clue how to win an SEC game.
And Shapen lost me too last night. Absolutely cost us that game.
And Shapen lost me too last night. Absolutely cost us that game.
The guy who rode the bench in junior high and high school, thinks he’s a sports God, so he started a kindergarten through 4th grade football league in the smallest town in bum **** Egypt even though he has no kids or even a wife just so he can walk around town with his chest pumped out thinking he is a football genius knows damn well that call should have never been made. Lebby doesn’t.
Yeah. It’s hard to argue with that. He really needs a win.
If you're going to throw the ball in that situation, go for the TD. If you just want a couple more yards, give it to Booth.