He’s only in his second year as a head coach. He inherited a mess after coach died. He has shown progress with 5 wins and getting to a bowl game this year, and he has a proven track record as one of college football’s elite offensive minds. At ole Miss he led the SEC in total offense both years. At UCF he was number 2 nationally in total offense. At Oklahoma his offense was great. Here at State already just this year he’s top 15 in explosive plays, and we were number 1 in the conference in running the most offensive plays per game, and had the fastest tempo of anyone. We need to be patient he’s doing great things with recruiting numbers. Here at State needs at least guaranteed 2-3 more years to be realistic in fixing the mess he inherited.
Lebby needs more time. Y’all need to be patient.
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Calling me a troll doesn’t change the facts: Lebby went from 2-10 to 5-7 with a bowl bid in Year 2, ran the 3rd-fastest offense in the country, and landed our best recruiting class in years. That’s progress, not trolling.
The "we shoulda given Croom another year or two crowd" is alive & well in 2026
If he had run a slightly slower offense, we would have won a couple more games.
He runs his offense faster than his brain can keep up. Not a good strategy.
This got a chuckle. But it’s true.
Trajectory is the complete opposite
Croom: 3-8 → 4-8 → 4-8 → 3-9 → 0-8 Never improved year-over-year, actually got worse every single season.
Lebby: 2-10 → 5-7 + bowl in Year 2.
Anyone who says they’re the same thing is either too young to remember the Croom era or just wants to be loud online.
Yep his brain works as fast as dial up internet when the rest of world operates on fiber
Those stats don’t negate what our eyes and ears are showing:
These teams do not get better as the season matures
In-game coaching decisions are inbred-sloth level incompetence
Recruiting talent improvements negated by already mentioned questionable decisions and lack of a winning, finishing-the-game attitude.
Our defense gave up 38+ points in half our games. The fast tempo and number of plays run is the only reason some of those scores were even close. Blame the guys allowing touchdowns, not the guys scoring them.
Yep his brain works as fast as dial up internet when the rest of world operates on fiber
The same people crying about tempo are the ones who wanted more tempo or an ‘Air Raid guy’ two years ago. Lebby is literally running a Top-3 tempo in America. Which is exactly what we hired him for. If you don’t like it, go root for Vanderbilt. Criticizing the tempo is like complaining your Ferrari goes too fast while you’re still learning to drive stick. Get better players and coaching on D, then talk.
You misunderstood my post. I'm not crying about the tempo itself, I'm crying about the fact that he cannot process multiple information threads at the same time . And it has led to a number of boneheaded mistakes that have literally cost us games this year not just field position or time off the clock.
No offense Will but a lot of us on here recognized the fact early on that you would never play in the NFL. Many of the same people are saying Lebby will never be a successful SEC head coach. I know it angers some people to admit it but sometimes the fans are right.
I’ll blame the guy that hired a completely unqualified coach for a DC and then chose to keep him around for the sake of “continuity” after fielding one of the worst defenses in recorded history.
Lebby has continuously displayed an inability to see what is right in front of him which is pretty much the polar opposite of everything you need in a guy that you’re paying $4.5M to oversee an SEC program
This is a good argument for why he should be our OC. What good HC traits does he possess?
Most importantly, why do we have to wait 5 years for a good squad when INDI-17ING-ANA went out and got a guy that created his own success overnight? I'm tired of being told we have to wait and build foundations at MSU. Winners win. Get rid of the losers and find winners.
Awesome troll attempt. Just pretend Croom's 8-5 season never happened.
Fun Fact: Curt Cignetti's initial Indiana contact was for 4.5M and you see where they are in year two. That wait it out ******** is loser mentality...that's like having your wife constantly cheat on you but you decided to wait it out
Was this about me going to the NFL or me leading us to 9-4? These same people on here didn’t predict that I can tell you that for sure. The people who dominate and dictate this board don’t know much but they think they do. I know it angers some people to admit it.
That 9-4 would hve been more like 4-9 with Lebby coaching that team.............and you know it . Lebby is as dumb as you were untalented . That dosen't make either of you a bad person. Lebby was a product of the Oklahoma football program and you were the product Coach Leach.
No it wouldn’t have. Lebby wouod have had more to work with that year. Again this is only year 2 and he’s over doubled the win total and got to a bowl game. And btw, at Washington I had the best passer rating of my career, my second best completion percentage, and the best yards per pass attempt of my career. I won 6 games including an upset over #10 ranked Michigan. All that with a coach that I originally wasn’t expecting to be there. I guess your just a product of this board- someone who doesn’t know much but think they do.
How about someone ban this troll who is apparently pretending to be Will Rogers, rather than just using his name as their screen name.
Yes thats call improvement. In year 2 after inheriting a total mess, he’s over doubled the win total and got to bowl. Those are irrefutable facts. I know you hate to admit that.
counterpoint, he made a 2-10 team, did not inherit it.
He inherited a D ave ~ 350 ypg and added an entire football field to it in his first year. This same d after two complete seasons gives-up 409 ypg and is next to last in the conf.
plenty of other school where lebby can go all the time that he needs.
But first we have a much bigger edministrative problem that needs to be resolved first. Lebby didn't vet & hire homself.
You know you're right, going from ZERO conference wins in '24 to ONE in '25 is real progress, a 100% improvement. Also your "fast offense" comment, that's what, lost the TX game going 3 and out in rapid sequence gave them the ball back repeatedly and allowed them to come back in the 4th Q and hang 24 on us to win it. And, you're still a dumb *** TROLL, move on
“Quaoar’s King? That’s just code for I’m into astronomy, probably atheist. Definitely don’t hunt or fish. Loves video games. Don’t know jack about football.
Usually people that can deal with the facts resort to name calling and personal attacks. You should be banned.
You all begged for this exact thing two years ago. When Coach passed away and the offense went stale, y’all were saying in here “We need a real Air Raid guy!” “Bring in someone who runs up-tempo, no-huddle, 80 plays a game!” “Hire the next Leach disciple who’ll light up scoreboards!” Ect. So Mississippi State went out and got exactly that in Jeff Lebby, one of the hottest offensive minds in football, direct from the Lincoln Riley/Leach tree, proven at Ole Miss, Oklahoma, and UCF. And guess what? You got precisely what you asked for: fastest tempo in the country and 3rd-most offensive plays per game in the country.
So now that you’ve finally got the high-flying, fast-paced Air Raid offense you screamed for, you want to fire the guy because the defense, which he’s still fixing can’t get a stop That’s not coaching failure. That’s impatience. And you need to be banned.
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The talent and cupboard he inherited was as bare as it’s ever been here at State and you know it. You just don’t want to admit that. This is only year 2, be patient. He needs 2-3 more years.