Lebby on the 2nd scrimmage…

patdog

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Skimmed it but one very big difference I see from lebby’s comment & Hugh Freeze talking about his QB. Lebby want to make things hard for his players. Freeze wants to “build his QB confidence.” I’m with Lebby on this one.
 
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onewoof

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Forget the SEC. Thank goodness we aren't playing more MAC and Sunbelt teams.
 

dawgman42

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I'm glad our flagship newspaper really knows how to get to the bottom of how we REALLY performed:

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Howiefeltersnstch

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I really did not gain much insight from any of his comments. Negatively or positively. Obviously they have lots to improve on. I'm sure Kirby and Sark say the same thing.
 
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The Peeper

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aerodawg.sixpack

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I really did not gain much insight from any of his comments. Negatively or positively. Obviously they have lots to improve on. I'm sure Kirby and Sark say the same thing.
This is exactly correct. There was a time years ago where you might get some insight from coaches or players in interviews, but those times are gone. Every interview is just formula script of saying the exact same things in different ways. None of it has any substance. I feel like things would get better if they just stopped doing interviews for like 5 years and reset.
 

GloryDawg

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It better be a given. I think a lot of our fans are still suffering from PTSD from some of those USM games in the 1980s. They're a below average G5 team at best.
I wasn't necessary thinking wins or loses. I was thinking how they play.
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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I do believe USM has 11 transfer WRs and one of them was a Bulldog last year. They are truly starting from scratch. If we don't win, fire the whole staff before the bus gets back to Starkville.
 

dickiedawg

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I just shake my head when I read posts that are focusing on the criticality of AZ State, as if Southern's a given.
It’s not as if losing to USM is out of the realm of possibility. But if that happens, nothing else this year matters. The Lebby train is off the tracks.
 
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I do believe USM has 11 transfer WRs and one of them was a Bulldog last year. They are truly starting from scratch. If we don't win, fire the whole staff before the bus gets back to Starkville.
The Marshall football team basically transferred to Southern with Huff, and won their conference last year. They have institutional experience playing together.
 

OG Goat Holder

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I just shake my head when I read posts that are focusing on the criticality of AZ State, as if Southern's a given.
Jokes aside, it's factually a very dangerous game. I posted a few weeks ago our G5 road game results and they ain't pretty. Even when we're good.
 
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CaptainFalcon

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The Marshall football team basically transferred to Southern with Huff, and won their conference last year. They have institutional experience playing together.

The “they brought everybody from Marshall” narrative has been exaggerated a little bit. It’s the QB (a good one, granted) and about four other starters, which I want to say are mostly WR’s and DB’s. A lot of the Marshall transfers were reserves at Marshall last year, as I understand it. They’ve still got major LOS questions.

To go from 1-11 in the Sun Belt to immediately beating an SEC team would be a major major leap, even if they’d only be beating us. I suspect they will be better but I don’t think this is a ready made conference title contender right off the bat. They were picked to finish 5th out of 7 in the Sun Belt West.
 
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OG Goat Holder

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The “they brought everybody from Marshall” narrative has been exaggerated a little bit. It’s the QB (a good one, granted) and about four other starters, which I want to say are mostly WR’s and DB’s. A lot of the Marshall transfers were reserves at Marshall last year, as I understand it. They’ve still got major LOS questions.

To go from 1-11 in the Sun Belt to immediately beating an SEC team would be a major major leap, even if they’d only be beating us. I suspect they will be better but I don’t think this is a ready made conference title contender right off the bat. They were picked to finish 5th out of 7 in the Sun Belt West.
I'll say this again. They went from 3-9 (3 very close wins vs. crap teams) and losing to us 49-0 in 2014, to playing way too close to us in Hattiesburg in 2015. With Dak as our QB. Without the transfer portal.
 

L4Dawg

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When our fans start talking about something as a "given", that's when I start getting worried.
 

CaptainFalcon

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I'll say this again. They went from 3-9 (3 very close wins vs. crap teams) and losing to us 49-0 in 2014, to playing way too close to us in Hattiesburg in 2015. With Dak as our QB. Without the transfer portal.

We haven’t earned trust yet so I don’t blame anyone for being concerned. I just am less sold on USM than others.

The other thing about the 2015 game, yes it was closer than it likely should’ve been… but we still won it by just under 3 TD’s. And we had a double digit lead from early 3rd quarter on. We probably win that game something like 41-13 if Shumphert doesn’t fumble going into the the end zone and Ross doesn’t muff a punt deep in our territory, both within the first 10 minutes of the game.

We aren’t as good as we were in 2015 but they likely aren’t either. We had Dak but they had one of their best QB’s in program history too, who has also hung around the NFL for a decade. And their HC from that year is now one of the most respected OC’s in the NFL.
 

Seinfeld

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I've said it before but if we learn anything from the USM game it will be very bad news. We could win that game 38-6 and still finish 3-9. I'll hold judgment until the Arizona St. game.
Yeah, and it's not like I think that Lebby is making all of this up. However, I know that if I was a returning head coach of a 2-10 team, and the biggest gripe that fans have against me is that I brought back the coordinator of one of the country's worst defenses, I'd be doing my damnedest to highlight some good things about them too.

The proof will be in the pudding in a couple weeks, and I'm expecting a lot of people to be disappointed when they see this new & improved defense take the field. If not, I'll own it and tip my cap to Hutzler
 

OG Goat Holder

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We haven’t earned trust yet so I don’t blame anyone for being concerned. I just am less sold on USM than others.

The other thing about the 2015 game, yes it was closer than it likely should’ve been… but we still won it by just under 3 TD’s. And we had a double digit lead from early 3rd quarter on. We probably win that game something like 41-13 if Shumphert doesn’t fumble going into the the end zone and Ross doesn’t muff a punt deep in our territory, both within the first 10 minutes of the game.

We aren’t as good as we were in 2015 but they likely aren’t either. We had Dak but they had one of their best QB’s in program history too, who has also hung around the NFL for a decade. And their HC from that year is now one of the most respected OC’s in the NFL.
Fair enough. If we win this game similarly to that game, I'll be thrilled. My motto with road G5 games are to just get out alive. I do like that it's the opener, so we should at least be fired up to play football.
 

Drebin

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The Marshall football team basically transferred to Southern with Huff, and won their conference last year. They have institutional experience playing together.
Their best win last year was Louisiana. The two P4 teams they played kicked the shlit out them, and one of those teams sucked.

Marshall was good for their conference. That doesn't mean they were good. Southern's not magically going to be good.

If we can't beat Southern by more than two TDs, we've got some serious, serious problems, and all this talk about being improved will have been horseshlt.
 

retire the banner

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Their best win last year was Louisiana. The two P4 teams they played kicked the shlit out them, and one of those teams sucked.

Marshall was good for their conference. That doesn't mean they were good. Southern's not magically going to be good.

If we can't beat Southern by more than two TDs, we've got some serious, serious problems, and all this talk about being improved will have been horseshlt.
Who on here is talking about being improved? I think you’re just gaslighting. Everything I’ve read has been doom and gloom the entire offseason
 

Chesusdog

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Bingo. We won our first game easily last year, but it was very obvious there were serious areas of concern.
Yeah, I remember being a bit concerned about the way they were running on us. Then Skaterbro trucked us and the secret was out.
 
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thekimmer

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So, our offense was mediocre and our defense looked good against our mediocre offense.

Let’s get excited, boys…! 🤦🏼‍♂️
This is what has me filled with dread. I am NOT encouraged by our defense outplaying the offense. This tells me that this season could be even worse than last year's.
 
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The “they brought everybody from Marshall” narrative has been exaggerated a little bit. It’s the QB (a good one, granted) and about four other starters, which I want to say are mostly WR’s and DB’s. A lot of the Marshall transfers were reserves at Marshall last year, as I understand it. They’ve still got major LOS questions.

To go from 1-11 in the Sun Belt to immediately beating an SEC team would be a major major leap, even if they’d only be beating us. I suspect they will be better but I don’t think this is a ready made conference title contender right off the bat. They were picked to finish 5th out of 7 in the Sun Belt West.
I don't think they're world beaters by any means; I don't think anyone does. But we're not good.

Southern Miss beating State is a coup for them. For us, nothing but downside.