what would you do to improve the atmosphere for the remainder of the season?
Please actually give serious answers.
Please actually give serious answers.
Legitimate discussion - Since we complained about the Hump's atmosphere...
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what would you do to improve the atmosphere for the remainder of the season?
Please actually give serious answers.
Please actually give serious answers.
what would you do to improve the atmosphere for the remainder of the season?
Please actually give serious answers.
Please actually give serious answers.
what would you do to improve the atmosphere for the remainder of the season?
Please actually give serious answers.
Please actually give serious answers.
what would you do to improve the atmosphere for the remainder of the season?
Please actually give serious answers.
Please actually give serious answers.
They really kill the atmosphere and put people into TV watching mode instead of cheering at a basketball game mode. It's fine to have some of those things, but when every time out is a commercial or contest, it really distracts people from the ball game.</p>
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From reading some of what the students on this board post, what I can
tolerate of their endless babble, it sounds to me like many of our
students are in need of a serious attitude adjustment. This group thinks
that group is losers, so we won't cheer if they cheer and risk be
associated with them, but meanwhile this other group is standing up and
acting stupid and blah blah blah. GET OVER YOURSELVES. Either support
your team or stay at home. You want to have a home court advantage? Well
it's up to you. Quit all the petty bickering and just go to the game
and be loud. The Rowdies/Pound shouldn't be worried about the other
students and vice versa. Everyone can stand up and yell "De-fense" and
then clap twice without anyone thinking any less of you and your
precious little ego. If you're yelling the right thing at the right
time, everyone else will catch on. I am on record many times as HATING
the seating of the students, but it is what it is for now and we have to
make the best of it. Bash Bury and Sidney all you want, but our student
body is the most underachieving component of our program this year.
From reading some of what the students on this board post, what I can
tolerate of their endless babble, it sounds to me like many of our
students are in need of a serious attitude adjustment. This group thinks
that group is losers, so we won't cheer if they cheer and risk be
associated with them, but meanwhile this other group is standing up and
acting stupid and blah blah blah. GET OVER YOURSELVES. Either support
your team or stay at home. You want to have a home court advantage? Well
it's up to you. Quit all the petty bickering and just go to the game
and be loud. The Rowdies/Pound shouldn't be worried about the other
students and vice versa. Everyone can stand up and yell "De-fense" and
then clap twice without anyone thinking any less of you and your
precious little ego. If you're yelling the right thing at the right
time, everyone else will catch on. I am on record many times as HATING
the seating of the students, but it is what it is for now and we have to
make the best of it. Bash Bury and Sidney all you want, but our student
body is the most underachieving component of our program this year.
This was a bad move by our Athletic Department. And it comes at a time when other schools are moving things around to get more students close to the floor and involved in the game. Having those good seats right on the court was always a big draw and brought students early to get the seats. It also led to a pack of really good supporters down low and then it got quieter up high. Now, when you are sitting behind the goal, it's actually better to be high to see and we have spread things out. When it comes to younger people you need the pack mentality. Put me in the middle of a bunch of crazy people and I will be just as crazy. Put me in the middle of calm people and I will just sit there.
This was a bad move and it was purely for money. I haven't been a student in 18 years so it's not for my benefit, but they need to put it back how it was in the early 90's.
This was a bad move and it was purely for money. I haven't been a student in 18 years so it's not for my benefit, but they need to put it back how it was in the early 90's.
I think the reason that the atmosphere sucks is because a couple of years ago we got rid of the locals who paid low amounts for season tickets. Those folks would show up for every game without fail.
We upped the price, brought in more revenue, rah rah, go dawgs, not saying it was a bad move entirely, but what we did is allow corporations or rich folks in Jackson, Huntsville, Memphis etc....the opportunity to purchase several season tickets. Of course these folks then did purchase the blocks of tickets and pay more and intially it is a win for the athletic dept., but these folks are the ones who don't make it to a Wed. night 7-8 PM game. So we have a sparsely filled arena (easily 1K to 1.5K seats empty) for a very important LSU game.
There needs to be some sort of online thing whereby the ticketholder, if unable to attend the game is given some sort of minimal credit to his or her bulldog club account to redeem the tickets online *Say they aren't coming*. Then have these tickets ready to distribute to local basketball teams, potential students? Sell them? This may exist already in some form, but the potential benefit is not enough to force these folks to take the trouble to get the unused tickets back into the system. Maybe penalize someone if they purchase a seat and the ticketis only usedfor 1/3 of the games? Rewards are probably better than penalties though.
The second comment is to keep on winning and this problem will remedy itself.
We upped the price, brought in more revenue, rah rah, go dawgs, not saying it was a bad move entirely, but what we did is allow corporations or rich folks in Jackson, Huntsville, Memphis etc....the opportunity to purchase several season tickets. Of course these folks then did purchase the blocks of tickets and pay more and intially it is a win for the athletic dept., but these folks are the ones who don't make it to a Wed. night 7-8 PM game. So we have a sparsely filled arena (easily 1K to 1.5K seats empty) for a very important LSU game.
There needs to be some sort of online thing whereby the ticketholder, if unable to attend the game is given some sort of minimal credit to his or her bulldog club account to redeem the tickets online *Say they aren't coming*. Then have these tickets ready to distribute to local basketball teams, potential students? Sell them? This may exist already in some form, but the potential benefit is not enough to force these folks to take the trouble to get the unused tickets back into the system. Maybe penalize someone if they purchase a seat and the ticketis only usedfor 1/3 of the games? Rewards are probably better than penalties though.
The second comment is to keep on winning and this problem will remedy itself.
Even Joakim noah, corey brewer, and taurean green said it was the loudest place they have ever played.
Got to be a way to get the students to sit back together, down low.
Got to be a way to get the students to sit back together, down low.
1) Hank Flick<div>2) get Stans to pull a Mullen and get the crowd fired up himself</div><div>3) do a "Rock the Hump" campaign with the students</div><div>4) get the football team and staff at the games and put the camera on them as much as possible</div>
Not hatin' on the decision to up prices, I understand why it was done.
But when you watch the WCBI highlights of the LSU game and see tons of lower level empty seats like we are playing Florida Atlantic or something, I think my explanation is a reasonable one. The old timers are either in the upper deck or they just said screw it I am old and will sit at home and listen to it on the radio or TV.
The Assenddawg poster probably has the best comment about bringing students down to courtside. I know those seats have to be very expensive and huge revenue for theath dept. But that would change the complexion of the crowd a lot, and I don't think the dork organizations should get any sort of priority to sit there. First come first served.
But when you watch the WCBI highlights of the LSU game and see tons of lower level empty seats like we are playing Florida Atlantic or something, I think my explanation is a reasonable one. The old timers are either in the upper deck or they just said screw it I am old and will sit at home and listen to it on the radio or TV.
The Assenddawg poster probably has the best comment about bringing students down to courtside. I know those seats have to be very expensive and huge revenue for theath dept. But that would change the complexion of the crowd a lot, and I don't think the dork organizations should get any sort of priority to sit there. First come first served.
1. This may sound nuts, but turn the damn music down.It is kind of like how Davis-Wade seems louder when people are yelling instead of relying on cow bells. We need to try and create more natural noise and don't just blast loud crappy music.
2. Take the Mic-Guy and throw him in Eckies Pond. That guy sucks beyond belief and is getting worse. Turn the mic duties over to the cheerleaders. It is their job to help get the crowd pumped up. Have them go up in the stands and lead cheers or something.
3. Get rid of dumbass fans that are unhappyif we are not 21-0 and don't win every game by 30+. Welcome to today's college basketball. The days of beating the hell out of teams based on their name alone are over. The Akron's and Utah State's of the world can play too. ( I realize this is not possible but hey I can dream)
4. Get the student section organized.
5. Bring back the Abner's chicken toss.........Ok scratch that one.
2. Take the Mic-Guy and throw him in Eckies Pond. That guy sucks beyond belief and is getting worse. Turn the mic duties over to the cheerleaders. It is their job to help get the crowd pumped up. Have them go up in the stands and lead cheers or something.
3. Get rid of dumbass fans that are unhappyif we are not 21-0 and don't win every game by 30+. Welcome to today's college basketball. The days of beating the hell out of teams based on their name alone are over. The Akron's and Utah State's of the world can play too. ( I realize this is not possible but hey I can dream)
4. Get the student section organized.
5. Bring back the Abner's chicken toss.........Ok scratch that one.
while Rick's Rowdies may have been goofy at times, they were seriously into the game and other people and students could feed off of the energy. The new group needs to relearn how to do some of that, maybe with less goofiness. Bringing Flick back is my preference because I like him, but I like Holmes just fine as well. I don't, however, think they are holding back the energy per-se.
It used to be about 40% of the court side space, now it's like 15%. If I were a student with the current seating I would not sit low because you can't see the damn game. I want to raise hell and have fun but I do actually care about seeing what is happening.
the main reason for reseating the HUMP years ago were that people had tickets for cheap down low and never showed up and the same complaining going on now was about the locals who were grandfathered in.
When I was in school, I camped out early for tickets and all that jazz but looking back, the Rowdies who came after me did a much better job providing a home atmosphere. I don't remember ever caring about what the other groups in the hump were doing other than what athletes were in attendance behind the goal. The fact that our students care about other groups is a disgrace. Also the fact that they are complaining about our team is mindboggling.
Bottom line is this is the same argument we had 5 years ago, we've just replaced rich fans with local fans.
When I was in school, I camped out early for tickets and all that jazz but looking back, the Rowdies who came after me did a much better job providing a home atmosphere. I don't remember ever caring about what the other groups in the hump were doing other than what athletes were in attendance behind the goal. The fact that our students care about other groups is a disgrace. Also the fact that they are complaining about our team is mindboggling.
Bottom line is this is the same argument we had 5 years ago, we've just replaced rich fans with local fans.
1. Get hank flick back NOW. The other guy is horrible. No way around it
2. Put the students back where they used to be.
3. Get rid of the games, commercials, and hype guy. They all suck. I don't understand why the same guy that did our graphic stuff for football can't do the same for basketball.
2. Put the students back where they used to be.
3. Get rid of the games, commercials, and hype guy. They all suck. I don't understand why the same guy that did our graphic stuff for football can't do the same for basketball.
Fewer commercials, no hype guy, bring back Flick.
I think Flick is the key here. When I hear him on the PA I know exactly where I am. I'm at the Hump for Hoops. I'm there for an evening of basketball, Mississippi State style. That's what I grew up with. That's part of what gets me pumped up about being there for my team. Anyone else sounds generic. The current guy is the exact same voice that I would hear at half of the NBDL games. There's no life, no passion.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">I'm gonna put a challenge out there for Stricklin</span>. Talk to Flick. Apologize for the decision that Byrne made. And have him back for the Kentucky game. Don't announce it. Just leak it. Let rumors spread and anticipation build. And don't have Flick come out until the lights go down for the player intros. It would be insane in the Hump.
I think Flick is the key here. When I hear him on the PA I know exactly where I am. I'm at the Hump for Hoops. I'm there for an evening of basketball, Mississippi State style. That's what I grew up with. That's part of what gets me pumped up about being there for my team. Anyone else sounds generic. The current guy is the exact same voice that I would hear at half of the NBDL games. There's no life, no passion.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">I'm gonna put a challenge out there for Stricklin</span>. Talk to Flick. Apologize for the decision that Byrne made. And have him back for the Kentucky game. Don't announce it. Just leak it. Let rumors spread and anticipation build. And don't have Flick come out until the lights go down for the player intros. It would be insane in the Hump.
This year
1. Bring back Hank Flick
2. Get rid of Hype guy, drop kiss cam, etc.
3. Encourage the dance team to slut it up for a dance or two. Use to at least once a year the old ladies got upset by one routine a year. That doesn't happen anymore, it should.
Next year
3. Probably locked in to the commercials contractually this year, but in the future double the price and show 1/2 as many, or triple and show 1/3 as many. And do this for football as well. And to be honest, I can't imagine Umi's and Sportscenter are pumping in that much ad revenue. Is it really worth it for maybe $10K a year from those guys to kill the atmosphere every 5 minutes?
4. Put students back where they were. I thought it would work when they split them, have volume coming from both sides, chanting back and forth to each other, but clearly it didn't work.
5. Quit reseating every year. Add seat license fees, whatever to generate money, but quit reseating. FYI, my source tells me this is probably happening next year, where they will lock everyone in - possibly for 5 year blocks, possibly longer but it is being discussed.
For basketball and baseball
6. Implement a resell program. If you can't make the game, have it where you can log it to your dogtag or an app, and say sell my tickets. The tickets will then be sold thru state's website or at the ticket office at face and the funds placed in your account(minus maybe a small service charge). This would allow those people who are bad about holding on to their tickets too long to instantly be able to have them available to those in need of a seat in Starkville.
1. Bring back Hank Flick
2. Get rid of Hype guy, drop kiss cam, etc.
3. Encourage the dance team to slut it up for a dance or two. Use to at least once a year the old ladies got upset by one routine a year. That doesn't happen anymore, it should.
Next year
3. Probably locked in to the commercials contractually this year, but in the future double the price and show 1/2 as many, or triple and show 1/3 as many. And do this for football as well. And to be honest, I can't imagine Umi's and Sportscenter are pumping in that much ad revenue. Is it really worth it for maybe $10K a year from those guys to kill the atmosphere every 5 minutes?
4. Put students back where they were. I thought it would work when they split them, have volume coming from both sides, chanting back and forth to each other, but clearly it didn't work.
5. Quit reseating every year. Add seat license fees, whatever to generate money, but quit reseating. FYI, my source tells me this is probably happening next year, where they will lock everyone in - possibly for 5 year blocks, possibly longer but it is being discussed.
For basketball and baseball
6. Implement a resell program. If you can't make the game, have it where you can log it to your dogtag or an app, and say sell my tickets. The tickets will then be sold thru state's website or at the ticket office at face and the funds placed in your account(minus maybe a small service charge). This would allow those people who are bad about holding on to their tickets too long to instantly be able to have them available to those in need of a seat in Starkville.
they could tie actual attendance to your priority for the next round of seating. This would give everyone a reason to put butts in their seats for every game or risk losing them. Maybe some type of ticket exchange through the DogTag could help this.
Onemodification I would make wouldbe to at least give the option tohave the facevalue of the tickets credited to the seller as a donation to the athletic dept.(maybe even give double credit to encourage people to use the program) instead of being paid for the tickets.clintstone said:
"We are getting a shipment of Texaco t-shirts in today for our basketball game against KY in a few weeks." This might help some.
As far as the student vs the rowdies thing. I think it got screwed up when the BSA group got involved and it got to clickish. They basically ruined a good thing. Also, I knew some of this kids in toward the end (way younger than I am, but younger siblings of friends etc). They were weird kids...really weird. At a star trek convention the trekkies would have shunned them for being weird. I am sure there were some normal ones, but not enough. Not only were they weird, they didn't really care about the game. They just wanted to be their and act crazy, but in away which caused the other students to not associate with them.
I think you correct this by when you move students back to the middle, say first come, first serve. I think you really make a push with students to get involved, not with a special group though. Just as students. Make a push with the greeks, but don't allow them to save blocks of seats or you end up pushing out people again like you did with blocking seats off for the rowdies.
Pass out pom poms, serve pizza for those students there camping out 4 hours early, etc. Maybe encourage the football players to go to games, or other athletes, and then show them up the screen. Let students realize, this is the place to be.
I think they other issue is this team is not loved. I don't here people talk about thier love of certain players like we use to even 3 years ago. I blame the all the issues with Syndey the past few years, Bost I'm gone and back stunt, and some burn out on Stansbury. I think you will start to see that turn once Syndey is gone. People seem to like our new guys from what I can tell, and hopefully we lock in with them they way did with previous teams.
I think you correct this by when you move students back to the middle, say first come, first serve. I think you really make a push with students to get involved, not with a special group though. Just as students. Make a push with the greeks, but don't allow them to save blocks of seats or you end up pushing out people again like you did with blocking seats off for the rowdies.
Pass out pom poms, serve pizza for those students there camping out 4 hours early, etc. Maybe encourage the football players to go to games, or other athletes, and then show them up the screen. Let students realize, this is the place to be.
I think they other issue is this team is not loved. I don't here people talk about thier love of certain players like we use to even 3 years ago. I blame the all the issues with Syndey the past few years, Bost I'm gone and back stunt, and some burn out on Stansbury. I think you will start to see that turn once Syndey is gone. People seem to like our new guys from what I can tell, and hopefully we lock in with them they way did with previous teams.
A lot of people have gotten completely turned off of MSU basketball in the last 3 years because of all the embarrassing stuff we've had to put up with. This team is different (even Sidney), butit's going to take more than 1 year to get the bad taste out of people's mouths and get them really involved again. And, for the record, I putall the blame for that on Stans. Sure the players were shitheads, but he's the one that allowed things to get as out of control as they did.[b said:
With the demographic of our crowd, and lack of student enthusiasm, it just don't work. It is actually quite awkward. It works at NBA games, but there could be varying reasons for that...maybe alcohol plays a part in that. I am all for music to get the crowd going and while there are classics that will always be apart of stadium rock, I don't feel Kriss Kross has reached that status....also the "Let Me Clear My Throat"....when he does the "when I count to three......" and he says "SCREAM".....its kinda sad... the reaction....
1. Less oral commercial advertising.
2. 4 fun things with a sponsor is too much: Kiss Cam, Dance Cam, Smile Cam, T-shirt Shoot.
these lead to
3. Get the pep band back involved, they hardly get to play.
4. Get a PA announcer that doesn't sound like he is mumbling. Need a crisp announcer (like Flick)
5. I don't think the reseating for the students ( this year ) isa problem; they just need to get up and raise hell.
6. With the Hump being sold out every game it does hurt attendance. ( but if you think you can't walk up and get a $10 dollar ticket mid week your crazy. )
Two complaints while I am at it: 1.Open the other entrance for lot B straight across from the baseball entrance, don't herd cars towards where people are walking. 2. Open the north doors to the ticket office. WTF ? You will still have to use the main entrance.
2. 4 fun things with a sponsor is too much: Kiss Cam, Dance Cam, Smile Cam, T-shirt Shoot.
these lead to
3. Get the pep band back involved, they hardly get to play.
4. Get a PA announcer that doesn't sound like he is mumbling. Need a crisp announcer (like Flick)
5. I don't think the reseating for the students ( this year ) isa problem; they just need to get up and raise hell.
6. With the Hump being sold out every game it does hurt attendance. ( but if you think you can't walk up and get a $10 dollar ticket mid week your crazy. )
Two complaints while I am at it: 1.Open the other entrance for lot B straight across from the baseball entrance, don't herd cars towards where people are walking. 2. Open the north doors to the ticket office. WTF ? You will still have to use the main entrance.
My enjoyment of basketball the past few years has been hampered by the fact that I actively disliked several players on the team. Even with somebody like Barry Stewart, who should be loved for squeezing every drop out of the physical abilities he had, the games were still no fun because of Ravern doing his matador defense and avoiding the weight room for four years, Kodi Augustus, etc.
This team has come a long way. Sidney is the only one that is potentially unlikable, and even a lot of the things that he does (primarily not blocking out) that make him look lazy as ****, I really think it's a result of him having developed bad habits, not that he doesn't want to work hard. This should result in people really getting behind the players again. Too bad Moultrie is going to be one and done, but I think Hood will be a player everybody loves as he develops and keeps doing all the right things.
This team has come a long way. Sidney is the only one that is potentially unlikable, and even a lot of the things that he does (primarily not blocking out) that make him look lazy as ****, I really think it's a result of him having developed bad habits, not that he doesn't want to work hard. This should result in people really getting behind the players again. Too bad Moultrie is going to be one and done, but I think Hood will be a player everybody loves as he develops and keeps doing all the right things.
I don't doubt that you are absolutely correct about the attitudes of fanstoward some of our players but ultimately that problem is up to us to fix. We have had plenty of shitheads on our football teams over the yearsyet we keep showing up and screaming our head off with football even during the late Sherrill years. This is a totally different basketball team and if we show up and sit their like stumps on a log then that is our fault for holding past grudges and not the coach or the player's fault. We need to get over it.</p>
SallyStansbury said:
I agree with the "Will not be attending" status. There should be something like this. Too many empty seats when I know people that want to attend but don't want to drive up looking for a scalper with enough tickets. Silly I know since you can almost always find tickets, but there are a lot of folks that don't want to risk it. Been thinking that we have needed this for a while now.
..comes from a spontaneous place; not a place concocted on a messageboard.
If the fans are feeling it that day or night, they are going to raise hell.
If the fans are not feeling it that particular day or night, they are going to offer a church-like atmosphere.
But to remain true to the thread topic, if you want to get the whole arena fired up, go after the refs.
One thing that turns me off to college basketball is how unbelievably bad the refs are.
They don't even watch the game half the time; the other half they are so eager to upstage the players' activity, they insert their ignorant asses in the game as a method to get their names mentioned on TV.
So if it's dead in the Hump, go after the refs. Not only do they deserve your hate, screaming at the refs always serves as a launching pad for raucous participation.
If the fans are feeling it that day or night, they are going to raise hell.
If the fans are not feeling it that particular day or night, they are going to offer a church-like atmosphere.
But to remain true to the thread topic, if you want to get the whole arena fired up, go after the refs.
One thing that turns me off to college basketball is how unbelievably bad the refs are.
They don't even watch the game half the time; the other half they are so eager to upstage the players' activity, they insert their ignorant asses in the game as a method to get their names mentioned on TV.
So if it's dead in the Hump, go after the refs. Not only do they deserve your hate, screaming at the refs always serves as a launching pad for raucous participation.
I used to be a huge basketball fan. I got apathetic over the last two years and am working my way back. Elgin and Renardo fighting in the stands. Renardo constantly suspended. Bost suspended twice for half a season. Ravern suspended. Kodi being Kodi. Idiots tweeting. These guys have been very unlikeable. I think people went nuts over guys like Timmy Bowers because you knew they wanted to win and laid it on the line every night. These guys are having to win back the fanbase. Hood is a breath of fresh air, but knuckleheads like Renardo and Bost are having to win back many of the fanbase.Johnson85 said: